Dillema update! And a Darkonite poll...




Giant plush pets are sure to get a little worn over the years with all those hugs and using them as trampolines, but restoring them isn't too difficult a task! The dillema has received a full species rejuvenation, and is also now available in nuclear!

The darkonite, however, absolutely hates being cleaned up in any way. But this may be its time! Please come and vote in our poll and let us know what you think about the darkonite's new look!

March 5, 2014, 9:09 pm by bun
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I hate the new darkonite's tails, just turn them away from its body.

March 5, 2014, 9:04 pm by InvdrZeec
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I like the coloring of the new Darkonite, but I wish its tails went upward. It's also missing the old one's characteristic smirk/disgruntled look. Something about it's underbelly armor seems weird to me as well. It kind of looks like it's just sitting on top on the belly instead of being part of it.

March 5, 2014, 9:00 pm by Moondrops
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So... You'd rather the pets stay old and outdated in terms of art while everything else on the site undergoes changes and updates every so often? That makes no sense, rofl. How is subeta "running out of ideas" just because they're updating old, outdated art?

Anyway, on topic of the revamps, I love the new Darkonite! Clearly many others do too, the poll is staggeringly in favor of the new look. The Dilemma looks better now too, the shading is softer and looks more like a suitable plush toy. c: Great job!

March 5, 2014, 8:46 pm by Rue
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New darkonite is absolutely perfect. I love everything about it c:

March 5, 2014, 8:42 pm by Yuzu
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SOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THE LAST ATTEMPT. Great job, guys! My only nit-pick this time is that I think the tails would look better UP instead of down. Tails up evokes more confidence, and it would help them not blend in with the legs so much. Otherwise, I am totally happy with this update!

The new Dillema looks great too!

March 5, 2014, 8:37 pm by Wizardpinky
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I don't like it when pets start to change :/ don't really like it. the original is the best now the new one is just changing...next thing u no i wont be getting much pets. its like subeta is running out of ideas so they r using the pets to make something new.

March 5, 2014, 8:06 pm by Alison
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The darkonite could use a little more tweaking maybe, but it is LOADS better than the old art. Change it, oh my god, change it. Good job artists!

March 5, 2014, 8:06 pm by Melody
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I really like this Darkonite, IMHO it is waaaay better than the last revamp attempt. :) It does look a bit less feisty, probably because the tail is lowered, but I still like it.

March 5, 2014, 8:03 pm by Kenjaku
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i really love the new darkonite. it retains the whole air of 'not sure if i'm going to be an ass or if i'm going to be sweet, but either way i'll keep you guessing' that i'd expect a cat to have. as a big darko fan, this revamp certainly pleases the heck out of me.

March 5, 2014, 8:03 pm by Dominic
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Ahh, one other thing. The flame marking on its belly seems to have disappeared in the new one and the ones on its tails are way more noticeable. Honestly, I think the marking on the tails is making them blend in with the leg behind it and they'd pop more if the markings were removed. On the other hand, the missing markings on the belly might make it look a little less boring. Right now my eyes are being drawn to the edges of the image due to how much more busy they are than the centre, rather than the pet as a whole. Just nitpicking though, I'm pretty happy with it as is.

March 5, 2014, 7:55 pm by Dominic
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The new darkonite is clearly better, but the toes look way too small. I think the hooves could be a tiny bit smaller too. Other than that, seems fine to me.

March 5, 2014, 7:54 pm by GinChimera
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I LOVE THE NEW DILLEMA UPDATE THEY LOOK SO WONDERFUL

March 5, 2014, 7:53 pm by Greg
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Woops, I meant this one: My bad!

March 5, 2014, 7:52 pm by Greg
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I really prefer this version: over the other 2. The art in the new one is awesome, but the pose takes the personality of the pet away

March 5, 2014, 7:51 pm by elf
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New darky is pretty darky. It is time.

March 5, 2014, 7:44 pm by Mesic
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The Darkonite is my all-time favorite pet, and I think that this revamp is perfectly in line with the "Special" colors that already feature the thicker body type and the lack of "brainy" bits. The artwork is fantastic, no argument there... But... that said, I would not be inspired to adopt any "basic" color Darkonites with this look.

The body and face now resembles my sister's Miniature Poodle. Her extremely fat, spoiled, complacent, miniature poodle. That's what bothers me about this most... the chubby body, the hunched, submissive posture, and the lack of UMPH that made the Darkonite so appealing to me, 9 years ago.

It looks like a lapdog, not a vicious beast.

March 5, 2014, 7:42 pm by Taters
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The new darkonite revamp is fantastic, I never cared for him before. Way too chibi all around but not in a good way. This makes me almost wish I could grab one.

March 5, 2014, 7:37 pm by sikkykins
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the new darkonite looks good, but the user editing with the tail up, i gotta say it looks better.

March 5, 2014, 7:31 pm by Plewps
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I voted for the new Darkonite I think it's beautiful, however I agree with the others that the tails should be up. I also am not the most enthused about how it's become less sharp, the spikes seems so tiny and non threatening.

March 5, 2014, 7:28 pm by Death
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THE NEW DARKO AAAA I hated the other proposed revamp, so I was expecting to hate this one as well, and I'm sosososoSO glad I have been proven wrong! I literally love everything about it oh my gosh, yes please, I'll take twenty. :''')

March 5, 2014, 7:28 pm by Thundercracker
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Now THAT is a revamped Darkonite! ^_^ I love them both!

March 5, 2014, 7:24 pm by Lantern
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The Darkonite looks really nice, but I agree with a lot of people that having the tails upward would look nicer. They blend in too much with the body.

March 5, 2014, 7:19 pm by HoleWeet
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Alright, so here's a really quick piece I got carried away with. [IMG]http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx109/holeweet/darkonitee_zps34494655.png[/IMG] From left to right, the revamp as it is, my edit, and the two images transposed. generally it's just thinner and fluffier. I messed with his right eye a bit, but even looking at it now it looks a little small. The muzzles edited a bit, too, and there's some extra fluff added to the cheeks. Again this is just kinda how I personally see the darkonite. The new revamp is fine aside from the muzzle and his right eye.

March 5, 2014, 7:12 pm by Jane
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The Dillema update looks great!

There has been so much controversy in response to the attempts at revamping the Darkonite, but I believe this new poll contains another great look for this species. (:

Thanks, Subeta staff!

March 5, 2014, 6:58 pm by SparkieSharkie
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:( Not liking that every time the Darkonite gets brought back around for another "update" it just ends up looking... cutsey? It looks too much like a boxed chubby little kitty instead of what I see as a rugged stray animal. Thats the whole fitting thing about my pet being a darkonite, the personality reflects the look and that just looks like a little kitty who wants to take over the world with... cuteness? lol.

Artwork is definitely colored better but its hard to make out his double tails, also... what happened to the brain!? :( sad to see this is how my pet will end up by the way the votes are running.

March 5, 2014, 6:57 pm by Dandelina
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Dillema changes look great.

I don't own a Darkonite, and the new one is nice but wouldn't convince me to get one, either. The art style is technically sound, no issue with that. What I don't like is it looks like a Darkonite who had work done. His broad muzzle has been made smaller and more defined, making it rather effeminate compared to the old one. He's also smiling which seems to miss the point.

March 5, 2014, 6:55 pm by Courtesy
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The darkonite's colorwork and shading seems kind of busted.

That Dillema is glorious, though.

March 5, 2014, 6:55 pm by hermes
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while i prefer the new darkonite's shading etc., i still think it's too "draw me like one of your french girls" and not as tough-looking as the old art's. new one needs its brain showing (like the old one) as well as less... submission? idk, the darkonite's always been pretty hostile to me.

March 5, 2014, 6:52 pm by Rara
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While the darkonite is obviously done much cleaner, I can't imagine a more white bread pose. He's lost all his scrappy, and bitterness that just made him such a little toughy. I'm pretty sad to see him looking so generic, you can't even see his brain anymore. His bones are thicker here, which just makes him look cuddly, and that doesn't seem close to the other, and his coloring is a little muddled in the body which makes his 2 tails pretty impossible to make out as well. I think this is quite far from what I would expect out of the new darkonite and I truly hope changes are actually being considered. I'll reiterate, the art looks cleaner, but you've completely lost what made him an interesting character.

March 5, 2014, 6:36 pm by orangecake
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Looks like the new Darkonite is winning the poll. Its art is better and the face + head remind me more of the old darkonite, which I like. The pose is just really static and boring; granted the old one wasn't too exciting, but at least it didn't look like it was drawn in a box. The new one could stand some negative space imo. I think that would make it more visually appealing. I even like the pose of the previous revamp better than this new one.

March 5, 2014, 6:33 pm by Zay
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Love the updated Dellima. Might be a tad on the shiny side, but overall I think they look amazing with the touch ups. Also LOVE this proposed Darkonite! The only things throwing me off a bit. The tails being down make it appear more submissive and skittish than the proud disgruntled look. I also think more of the brain should be showing and maybe give it a tiny bit more of a scowl. All in all though I love what the artists have done this time around!

March 5, 2014, 6:22 pm by Hippogriff
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March 5, 2014, 6:22 pm by KiaArra
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New darkonite still doesn't look disgruntled enough. I also think it looks a little too plump, I always thought that the darkonite was kind of a stray dog, and liked that it looked a little starved, and now it looks too well fed.

March 5, 2014, 6:19 pm by Hippogriff
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LOVE the darkonite!

WOAH I had no idea those were plushes! Much needed makeover!

March 5, 2014, 6:14 pm by CaveAdsum
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The new Darkonite is very lovely!

March 5, 2014, 5:58 pm by caito
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I like the new darkonite. I'm glad to see my opinion is with the majority lol.

March 5, 2014, 5:56 pm by kitestrings
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i like the old darkonite's pose better, but the new one is muuuuch better. it needed a revamp hella bad. the dilemmas are super cute too! they just seem kinda shiny imo which is sorta weird for something made of plush. still though, much better.

March 5, 2014, 5:56 pm by Poppins
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I'm very glad that the Dillema just got a shading touch up, and not an entire pose-revamp. The Angelic Dillema is one of my dream pets~ I LOVE the Darkonite. It needed a revamp, but I wasn't a huge fan of the other proposed one. It was nice, but I felt the neck was off, maybe? The attitude is different, but that just makes me want to hug it more!

March 5, 2014, 5:56 pm by DamnVampires
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I think I might actualy want a Dillema now!

March 5, 2014, 5:56 pm by HoleWeet
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I'd settle for the new darkonite, it's cute. However I can't help but think the back legs are tad chubby, and the mouth is a little bit... species lacking? I thought the darkonite was kind of a cat, but this muzzle looks a little foxy?

March 5, 2014, 5:56 pm by Kestrel
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Some nice updates to both. The overall head of the new Darkonite is bothering me a little though. At first I thought maybe it was a little off-center, but I think mayybe there's a difference in the eye shape or something (that's after taking the perspective into consideration) or the shading on the skull. On the old Darkonite there's this little shadow that follows the arch of the brow of the closest eye and I think adding that to the new one would help a lot. Despite the new Darko's head being a really apparent circle, the shading is making the forehead it look a little.. concave I guess? I don't quite know how else to explain it..
Also, I really adore the sharpness of the old Darkonite's ear tips. I realized that the Darko is bound to lose some of its pointedness since Hagane generally has a softer/rounder style than Jag or MC did but it'd be nice if the bones and spikes kept as much of their shard-like appearance as possible. (sorry for the nitpicks, the Darkos have been one of my favorite species for years now).

Now that all that's said, I like that the brain is now covered and both the chest and far side of the face stick out as looking fantastic. <3 Serious love for both of those features.

March 5, 2014, 5:53 pm by Lin
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I really like thew new darkonite. I hope we end up using this one. :3

March 5, 2014, 5:52 pm by stars_water
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This new Darkonite update is far superior to the last Darkonite update you guys opened a poll for, if you ask me.

I agree with Asrodeia though, at least at first I liked it better with its tail raised. The change in attitude it gives is totally something I could get used to, though. In a way it almost seems more believable than the attitude of the old version's attitude.

March 5, 2014, 5:52 pm by Maritime
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I honestly don't remember what the old Dillema looked like, but I love the look of the updated ones! XD The new Darkonite looks pretty great, but I think the ears are too round/plush. Maybe tweak them to look a bit pointier, like the older version? Otherwise, it looks amazing! Keep up the good work, artists :D

March 5, 2014, 5:50 pm by ubercharge
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Some lovely changes! The Darkonite's new art is a huge improvement, though I feel the new version looks a tad more submissive, if that's a word that works, than the former. I personally think it'd retain more from the old if the tail was lifted up, and maybe more of the brain was showing? Still looks great though, hats off to the artist!

March 5, 2014, 5:41 pm by Rorschach
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Oh wow, the new darkonite is wonderful! It has the same feel but the shading and pose are so much better.

March 5, 2014, 5:37 pm by Nebet
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Coming from a Darkonite fan, I think the revamped Darkonite looks great! I'm in agreement with some of the other comments though; the one thing I would change would be showing the brain a little bit more. :)

March 5, 2014, 5:37 pm by far
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DON'T REVAMP THE ANGELIC DARKONITE OR I'M GOING TO CRY.

March 5, 2014, 5:36 pm by Ravel
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I adore that Drakonite!

March 5, 2014, 5:34 pm by QueenOfImladris
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o.o That new Darkonite looks absolutely amazing!

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