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Aug 13, 2019 6 years ago Official
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Hi everyone, I have been working on this and finally have some updates to share.

The achievements page now shows you some more detailed information about your achievement counts. You can also see this information for other users when viewing their achievements pages.

The number you see now is your new achievement total and I'm certain that it is counting your achievements accurately now.

However, I've identified a few unrelated and separate issues that may still affect this count. For example, some achievements have glitched data, and some users have "phantom" achievements that don't really exist but have always gotten counted. Even though the code is definitely counting them correctly now, it may still give an incorrect total because of these problems.

I'm working on resolving these and will update as I make progress on them. Please rest assured that I've made it a priority on my todo list.

I'll look into fixing the Achievements High Scores table after I've made sure all the counts are correct. Thank you so much for your patience and for the informative reports. <3

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Aug 13, 2019 6 years ago
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Thanks! I'm still missing so many, I was on the high score and now I'm :( There's no way someone else expect for the that has more achievements than me.. even with the retired ones..

Aug 13, 2019 6 years ago
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Thanks for the update! I noticed my number was changing around. So one thing I noticed is I had 1050, then it went down to 1043. And I also noticed this on the achievements page: 7 legacy achievements are not counted. So does that mean legacy achievements no longer "count" towards our total number?

[edit] Also, why? Haha just kind of wondering why they don't count. :)

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Aug 13, 2019 6 years ago
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As I mentioned, I will look into the accuracy of the High Scores table after I fix the remaining issues affecting the counts.

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Aug 13, 2019 6 years ago
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ok no problem! I'm just a bit nervous and a bit hysterical haha, I maintained this place for few years, I'm scared to lose it "^_^

Aug 13, 2019 6 years ago
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I'm pretty sure legacy achievements never counted (?) since they were from an older achievement system. On the High Scores page, it says "This score does not include legacy achievements." So it definitely never counted (or at least, was not supposed to count) for your official score.

On the achievements page itself, I decided to go with the current wording because it breaks it down more clearly what is included or not. And if you want to know your total including everything, you can just add them together.

No worries, I understand. I'd be anxious (and frustrated) in your shoes too. You have a really impressive achievement number and you clearly put a lot into it over the years!

Please rest assured that none of that time and effort is wasted. You still have all the achievements you've earned and you won't have to earn anything all over again. All that's going to change is making sure they are counted and updated correctly. (And if you do notice any achievements you used to have, but don't have anymore, please let me know which and I'll definitely make sure it's corrected!)

Do you think it would help if I just temporarily took down that high scores table, so you don't have to look at it - since it's probably not accurate right now anyway?

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Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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thanks for understanding and helping me feel more relieved ?

My counter was glitchy for years actually, since the move to the revamped page and I lost some retired achievements that I got, I tried to fix it with tickets but there was no solution and at some point it became too old to even prove that I got them and I just gave up ?

And it’s ok, it won’t be fair to other users to take it down, thanks so much ?

Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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Okay, I wouldn't have known if they were counted before or not, since I've never looked at the high scores honestly haha. I suppose it makes sense though if they are SO old they were on an entirely different and now defunct system!

Two crazy tiny suggestions if I may:

  1. Possibly change the wording from "are not counted" to "are not included in this total" idk this might just me being nit picky but the wording felt confusing especially if you didn't see the numbers switch around like I did?
  2. Maybe you could have that part of the sentence ("are not counted" or if you so choose to change the wording) link to the high score table? I don't know where it is right now personally and those ones not counting is related to that table so ya just an idea! I could see waiting to do that till you work out any issues on the table though. (:

Anyways thanks for the hard work!!!

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Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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Yeah, I was right behind you. Tris stinks. Have to have faith though!

Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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PsychoDreamer

yeah exactly :( Let's wait until the final fix, because it makes no sense that we are too far behind now, I'm now and many users that were behind me are ahead of me..

Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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Hmm, I just noticed this evening that my achievement count has gone down by 2. I haven't earned any new achievements super recently or anything either, so IDK what triggered it. Or which 2 are supposedly missing lol.

I wonder if this has anything to do with stuff being moved over to the new high score tables or anything? Or just some random glitch. I feel like my achievement count was never really fully corrected after achievements were moved to the new system a few years ago anyway, so maybe it's kind of correcting itself now? I don't know though.

Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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Ok I think I understand I'm pretty sure legacy were counted

2494(after the fix)+23(legacy)+7(missing)=2524 it's exactly how my count supposed to be before the fix, but I missed 7 achievements, so those 7 are still not counting..

Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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I wonder if maybe some sort of script or something could be implemented to go through and recount and fix people's achievement counts on demand if they choose or something, because I don't have time to go through and recount nearly 2,000 achievements by hand to make sure it's correct. lol

Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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yeah it would be great thing to do, I think there's something like that for the forum titles, or was

Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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My score is correct, but I have four "missing" ones. No clue what those could be, but it's just four and I only have 1315 (I counted 1319 when keeping track of achieves). I won't be nitpicky in my case as I don't have a massive amount to begin with.

I appreciate all the hard work being put into fixing things! I will continue to keep track of my achieves until the more solid post rolls in. Just in case. I'm also kind of impressed I got almost 100 achieves since the 29th lmao

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Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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thank you for looking into this!! <3

I haven't been keeping track of my exact achievement count as I've been trying to earn more, but I'm fairly sure all the missing ones have been restored!

Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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Yeah, there was something like that for when forum titles were accidentally being awarded when they shouldn't have been, so people could reset their list of titles they had actually earned.

Of course, there aren't as many forum titles as there are achievements, so this might be more difficult, but hopefully something can be done. Because I think probably multiple people's achievement counts were never really fully correct after the move to the new system, so who knows really if the high score list is 100% accurate anyway unless everyone counts their achievements by hand lol.

Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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Please see my staff post at the top of this page, it should clear that up :)

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Aug 14, 2019 6 years ago
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Whoops, I somehow missed almost a whole page of posts here. Sorry about that!

Thanks for taking care of this! Hopefully the remaining issues aren't too difficult to solve. :)

[edit]@ Bug I noticed the other day when I was going through my Games achievements that I have earned the Let it Slide achievement for having earned various other achievements related to Saheric Slide and it shows the Take Five achievement as being earned, but the Take Five achievement individually is showing as unearned (2/10) in the list. Just bringing it up now since it may be related to the glitched achievement data you mentioned, is this something I should create a ticket about or is it the sort of thing you're looking into regarding the remaining incorrect achievements and stuff like that?

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Quote by Laurey
I noticed the other day when I was going through my Games achievements that I have earned the Let it Slide achievement for having earned various other achievements related to Saheric Slide and it shows the Take Five achievement as being earned, but the Take Five achievement individually is showing as unearned (2/10) in the list. Just bringing it up now since it may be related to the glitched achievement data you mentioned, is this something I should create a ticket about or is it the sort of thing you&;re looking into regarding the remaining incorrect achievements and stuff like that?

Hm... could you please confirm I understood you correctly:

  • When you view your Saheric Slide achievements, the Take Five shows up as green highlighted (earned)
  • However, you have 2/10 progress on the achievement, so it should be unearned

(Fwiw, I can confirm that the Take Five achievement is currently NOT counted as part of your score. Yup - I can now see confirm things like this xD But I'll still look into it if the achievements page isn't displaying things correctly.)

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