As much as I like the info, I think batch amount and the retirement status aren't exactly accurate to how many copies are on site though. Like if someone submitted an item as unlimited and retired after 10 copies lets say, would it show that it got 10 copies on site or that it was submitted as unlimited? I feel like especially nowadays some people release things as unlimited and then only slot a certain number even though they're on site as unlimited and thus might not be as helpful.

I mean I guess the retirement thing could be helpful but I feel like it could confuse people to see both retirement and batch number especially since it's not always cut and dry like theres x number of copies around. But that's just my 2 cents. I think if releaser can somehow be shown for that sort of thing, it makes it easier for people to know who to ask the batch/status questions.

I'm all for artist, releaser, and if feasible the recolor thing. Normally when I release a CW I have a name that is specific enough to all colors like "Miss Daisy ___ Bodysuit" just to make it easier for people looking into recolors to do an easy search for "Miss Daisy" and then all the colors show up as options, but it would be nice to show whether an item had recolors or not even if it doesn't show the specific recolors.

Oh yes and it would, if you can, be nice to know what body layer category it was submitted under. Price category is fine too, but I'm thinking more like, did this get added under overchest, body or chest? There are so many times when I look at my own releases and never remember where I thought the item would belong to and so then when submitting a recolor I sometimes submit in a different layer category and then its frustrating (to me) to see it in multiple layer categories. I often times have to go to wardrobe, do a search and then go through the categories I think I would've submitted it in to find out where I put it and I think it would just be easier if I could just check it in a certain place (like the directory). Heck, I think it'd be nice if possible that when doing an account search it would say something like "1 found in your Wardrobe (chest)" but I know that's not really what you're asking about.

I think Releaser is the most pertinent information beyond what you initially listed. I'd say leave Artist out of the directory for one reason and one reason only. Not every artist wants to be "public knowledge". For instance, my most recent wig commission was taken by my artist on the condition they would be kept private. They didn't want to be barraged by other people for something they weren't quite ready for. If there was an "artist" search option, that leaves my artist wishes moot and that's not fair to them.

Leave out the more private things like that, and keep it to the first 4 things, plus maybe releaser name and maybe retired and how many copies are onsite. Nothing else needs to be included and it keeps privacy intact for releaser AND artist.

*EDIT: After reading more, maybe make an "Artist" field optional? Like if the artist wants to be public knowledge, then they can be included. If they don't, it would remain blank. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... for the sake of the artists who want to be kept private, don't make artist field required.

As soon as Bug gave us the option to use UserID, I changed all my credits over to that because it's so very much easier that way.

Last call for opinions/feedback on including the following info for CWs in new item directory:

• Artist
• Releaser
• Batch Amount (Number of batches it was submitted as)
• Retirement status (basically just - is it retired or not)
• Recolors list (for items that have or are a recolor of other items)*

Artist and Releaser:

Yes, please.

Batch Amount:

I honestly don't care. Some people have things unlimited so they can reserve the right to release more batches if they want to, but only ever released 1-2 batches. I think it could be misleading, and I have no idea how you'd keep track of how many are in circulation given that people will sometimes sell you things if you ask them very politely and promise not to sell/trade/pawn them.

Retirement Status:

I don't know--people seem to retire and unretire things all the time, especially around holidays and Black Friday.

Recolours:

I'd love this.

But the thing I want most of all is a thing that you probably won't do.

CW names are even more ridiculous than the names of CS and restockable items. It's bad enough that "Antique Compass" is actually a background of a natural scene, and many things that sound like they should be food aren't edible, and 2017's "dreidel" Luminaire item was a blue sweater that didn't even have a Star of David on it or a menorah or a dreidel on it.

CWs however, have names that go like this:

50-dollar adjective + noun that doesn't actually describe what the item is for + "of the" + name of an animal or a type of person, often with multiple adjectives attached to it.

Like, "Ecstatic Vision of the Interdimensional Feline Oracle" -- and it's a dress. I love all my friends that release CWs, but I kind of hate this naming system because there's no working tags either here or on SL that can help you if you want to find a long blue dress in a specific style but the releaser has named it "vision" or "symphony".

I'd be really happy if there were anywhere, either on site or on SL, that I could go to and search like this:

"black pants" (returning items that are both black and also pants)

"blonde short hair" (returning hair that is both short and blonde, whether it's 'aureate' or 'lemon' or 'brilliant' or even 'uriney' in the actual CW name.

But honestly I'd settle for just being able to search for "pants".

Or "flooring".

Or "dress".

There're a lot of items I didn't buy when I was new on subeta because the name and thumbnail sounded like something I would never be interested in, but then it turned out to be something I really wanted.

not sure exactly what this meant n_n but if you were asking if Bug/staff can add info about items being "private" or not, it cannot be done simply because it's not a Subeta feature and isn't reinforced by rules -- it's just users deciding to not release items to other players so there isn't actual info about that!

in the case of "retirement" here we're talking a different thing -- CW releasers have the option to permanently retire items that still have copies this makes it that, exemple if someone submitted at 30 copies but only sold 17, and is tired of seeing it just being there (lol i am like that) they can click "retire" and the 13 other copies will never exist, and there is no way to revert that what you meant on your end (when you said people "unretire" things for like, Black Friday) that is user decided, it's not into the coding, so it just mean that temporarily they set the price as "0" (so the item stops showing in shops) but the copies still exist and they can just reprice it when they want n_n

Thanks for the info.

I think it should be optional, yes. But I would like to be credited for my work, and it would help me greatly to get more comissions in case someone likes it. Thanks for understanding that. <3

Definitely. I just want to keep it equal for every artist, for those who aren't ready to be "out there" and for those who do. So, I think best option for the "artist" search would maybe contact the releaser who can in turn contact their artist and find out if they want credit. And for those who want to stay anonymous, have the ability to leave that field blank for each CW. Then for new CWs have a checkbox for Anonymous Artist search, where the artist won't be listed if they don't want to be.

If we make it optional, should it be opt-in or opt-out for CWs that already exist? What about artists/releasers who are no longer active on Subeta - should the artist name be included for these? (That is, should we assume the artist would want to be credited, and include them?)

I'm leaning towards crediting artists by default, since it seems wrong to require artists to deliberately opt in to getting credited for their work. However, if we make it an opt-out feature, I am just worried about the information being publicly available when the new feature goes live. I would give the artist/releaser the option to toggle it, but it would be publicly available until they change it themselves, and I can't think of a way around that.

I'd say opt-in for existing CWs. Because like you said, there are going to be releasers and artists that are no longer active, and it would be hard to hunt down the artists for those cw's that existed before the artist field. It also covers those who still want to be private and keeps it from being public for those who don't want it public. I don't view it as wrong to make people opt in, I think of it as double checking with the artist, saying "We know you're the artist but we'd like to check if you'd like to be credited on this cw." And then going forward, make it a check box in the submission process to let them either opt in to be credited or opt out to not. While I'm not a web coder, I don't imagine it would be that difficult to make that happen.

I personally think its logical to automatically put the artists credit considering the work they put into it.

Also my curiosity would we also be listing artist for all non-cw items or just exclusively for cws?

I think all artists should be included by default, even those not on site anymore. But I guess you could make a news post saying that those artists who do not want to be credited on their previous items have a week to fill a ticket or something so they can opt for staying anonymous.

While I do believe that artists should always be credited I also know that there are CW artists on this site that want to remain anonymous. Not sure exactly why but that doesn't really matter. If it's their wish to stay anonymous then that should be their choice to make. So, I suppose that the best option then would be for you to either make it an opt-in kinda thing so that the artist's username isn't visible until they or the releaser opts in, or I guess staff could contact all known artists and ask them directly and flag the ones that want to stay anonymous so that their names don't show up. But the first option sounds much easier to do, at least in my opinion. As for artists that aren't on the site anymore I'd say that you should probably go ahead and make those public. Or maybe have it so that if they haven't returned to the site for a set amount of time (say 1-2 years) then make their username public, otherwise keep it private?

I don't mind this idea as long as there's an option to completely separate it from the regular items like in the wardrobe for those of us who have no interest in CW's or can't afford them or just otherwise don't want to see them and would rather deal in the regularly available items.

For those who are still active it would be a great way to showcase their work and maybe drive more people to them, you know? My only worry is the strain it might put on the site as CW's are being created more often than the regular items and the sheer amount of them it looks like there are based on what I can just browse in the wardrobe. I'm a bit on the fence on this end because the wardrobe itself contains all CW's and that functions as an on site list in and of itself in a way so if it would strain the site too much I don't see a reason for that list to exist outside the wardrobe if that makes any sense.

I am agreeable to the first three points and by releaser as well, as I think it beats using the round-about method of using the URL to find out who the releaser is imo. I can't think of any negatives to not have it searchable by releaser atm, I don't think.

Other information such as batch number and whether a CW was unlimited sounds like a good idea too. Maybe a forum topic on the CW boards to ask whether people want to have the information publicly released?

A functionality to maybe see in the official CW directory: To see what other items it matches perhaps? There used to be a function in the old Wardrobe that we could color match, but I'm not sure whether it could be re-implemented into the current Wardrobe system or if it could be added into the CW directory without breaking the site.

I would really love to see a part in the directory where types of CWs that are tattoo-oriented are included in their own section.

Id like also agree with wanting to know if its a private item or not. I want to know if I have no chance at it and can remove it from my wishlist