Thank you :D Congrats on your wins as well!

You Won! You have defeated Kain 10 times! Kain drops: Tome of Magma You earned 387 sP for beating Kain! Thracian earned 6500 EXP Points!

Git gud scrub

Thank you guys for doing the hard part and figuring out how to unlock him! I'm never good at this sort of thing, so I wouldn't have anybody unlocked without help from you guys. ^^

We already know Kains biggest fear is the Hydra

Make it happen cranberry and purge :P

😂 Wouldn't that be awesome :P

So the good thing about Lokien and Kain is that they're two more challengers to look forward to (?) but it would be nice to get a new Impossible challenger that a high T11 to mid T12 pet can take on.

As much as I am enjoying how tough the past few challengers have been, I do hope the next challengers aren't as... challenging ( :P ) so everyone else has something to fight too.

I too vote for something a high T11 and low-mid T12 have a chance at. Haven't been able to do any battles in a while. Definitely something to look forward to, but yeah, I crave something I can actually fight. (I'm somewhat close for Kain. Maybe in a few months I'll try again.)

My pet is T12 and I can't beat Kain. Weapons have a lot to do as well as level.

Yes I love tough challengers, gives me something to work towards, but I can see how frustrating it is for most people that don’t have high tier pets. Not being able to fight all the recent challengers after waiting every month sucks.

I’m pretty sure he ran screaming from the hydragellos :p

After you have the stats, it’s a combination of weapons, strategy and how many losses you are willing to take.

I can beat Kain when he plays fair. Even when he disables one of my weapons for half the fight. But when he disables healing I get stomped, and trying over and over until he finally doesn't do that just isn't fun. He's going on hold for a while.

I got my five wins and don’t feel compelled to get more. RNG just isn’t all the interesting to me.

I can see what they're trying to do - being able to solve a challenger all the time with the right weapon/scroll sets can get old and I'm sure they want to mix things up for us but getting too far into disabling our ability to battle, especially when it's pure luck, makes it unfun. I play a lot of casual MTG and I really enjoy a challenging game, even if I lose, but when an opponent keeps locking me out of playing at all I will just scoop. Yes, they get the win but I don't want to play against them again.

The problem is I don't know what the middle ground is. Disabling is the only way to mix things up. Maybe if it was less RNG, like you know you can only use one weapon and the challenger did a mix of icons that meant you can't just bring in a single weapon that blocks it all.

I don't know. This is why I'm glad I don't have to create new challengers. :)

I think I would cry (joyful) if we got a Gelly War before the year was up... but that's just me.

I kinda wish they added another tier to the Wizard Gelly achievement so you could get a second concoction.

comes out of hiding So I feel kinda bad beating on these guys with everyone and not even saying Hi, so uhhh, hi everyone! I'm just not adept at the social doing things. And I wanted to thank for her puzzle solving skills. :)

Kain doesn’t disable healing. Only freezing and stealing are disabled.

Technically all opponents are RNG. He’s definitely tough but I found him to be way better balanced than Lukien and Chrono.

The problem with chrono and why she feels more luck based is because she was given many overpowered weapons. She has at least 4 weapons that heal and 4 weapons that fully block, on top of other weapons with high damage and high chance to freeze. Blasting adds very little help because of how many copies she has so you rely heavily on the use of blasted weapons or hoping for a “weaker” weapon.

Although Kain blocks a lot of icons, they aren’t full block and he only heals for 555 HP. Although freezing is disabled, he can’t freeze you. From what I can tell of his attackers and cursed weapons, he only had 2 or 3 of those so blasting is more effective. He was also easier to predict. A lot of his weapons are shields. Even when he disables a weapon, you can predict when he’ll use a shield and you don’t need to waste a blocking scroll.

Thank you! There were a lot of us trying a ton of different things.

I apologize to my friends I sent bugs to xD

Seeing as though you were on the right track, you were so close at that point and ultimately did find the solution, I'm sure you have been forgiven. xD

Finally!

You Won! You have defeated Saggitarius 35 times!

Saggitarius drops:

Physical Defense Marquise Crystal Light Marquise Crystal Light Defense Marquise Crystal Saggitarius Tattered Scroll Piece Lucent Physical Marquise Crystal Baby_William earned 60 EXP Points!

I guess, I can put it more like this. Battling is fairly shallow. This isn't really a complaint, it just is. At end game you either rock-paper-sissors it by blocking the 500000 icons of one type your opponent does, focus on the one or two icons it doesn't block, or out stat it. There's other stuff, but mostly I consider those 'flavor'- freezing, stealing, curses, and 'player pinning'. So it's hard to make things interesting and to not make all the challengers copies of each other. As a result of this and a need to make them hard they seem to be going for goal of creating player losses. The fight can be as boring as spending an eternity treading through a planet made of mayonnaise and it doesn't matter because the only goal is to cause the player to lose. So we have fights were 15 turns of the fight can be negated through unpreventable full healing and a potpourri or wasted turns where no damage can be done thanks to infinite use full blocks. We end up pinned by weapon and scroll locks and having healing disabled. Whatever feel of strategy and agency there is simply becomes nothing because nothing we do can have any effect other than waiting for luck to go our way. There is no defense, no proactive steps, just RNG and it makes the fight feel like a hopeless waste of time. I do not find this fun or engaging and I get that I am a garbage human being because I will not bother when this is my 'challenge'.

In other news, wah wah wah.

Hi :D I too have come out from hiding but I do post once every so often here and follow the chat here. So don't feel bad or you will make me feel bad too haha

in between the four wins I managed to scrape before getting fed up were many, many losses where none of my healing scrolls or weapons did a damn thing. After buffing my speed up, he wasn't outspeeding and KO'ing me before I could use them. I just wasn't healing. At all.