- good points. I tend to look more at healing but better attack plus defense can add up too. Right now I favor my trident at least partly because it's fully modded with two parched baguettes and two critical strike tears where my bludgeon has two parched tears and a single critical strike. (And I suppose also because it was really my first major weapon and it made a huge difference when I purchased it.)

I've wondered whether Gelatin Concoction was any use as a weapon. Although I guess it doesn't matter in the long run because once I finally earn mine (didn't quite manage it last time) it will almost certain be used to make a Maniacal Essence once Tos reached T11. :-)

- sorry I didn't have what you wanted but glad it looks like you are finding lenders (see - battlers are really awesome)

I've been lucky enough to have a GoTF on long term loan (and recently was lent a second). I rarely equip the second one (I only have the AP for three scrolls and usually leave my Shriek in the third spot - after Aftershocks and GoTF) and don't really miss it. For the challengers that can't be frozen, I do swap in the second GoTF but rarely need it (sometimes I use it to try to end the battle with full health or some such since it's there - but don't think I've ever won a battle because of that second one). Of course, your basic battle strategy seems to be somewhat different than mine, so you might find it more helpful than I do, but thought it couldn't hurt to share my experience. By the way, this is only for Tos - all my other battler pets can only equip two scrolls each right now, something I am working on.

- waves hello - how did you wind up here? I see you are being your usual awesome self. Thanks for helping.

Do you have any suggestions for a good price to buy GoTF?

Right now I have lends that are making a huge difference. Pukie's AP is medium (erm kind of) but i'm trying to get it to get at least 4 more and if I can quite a few more so I can try a few scrolls that are tougher to use at low AP.

I'm up to 60 mama mush but I need the extra AP to get one more scroll at least to try and survive till 75 wins.

I wasn't sure about Soma Tablets but 1-Blackmoon doesn't last/isn't very effective 2-Recycle blaster only allows 1 of it's kind equipped. For some opponents, I'm always hoping they'll use the recycle rod and if they don't it's much tougher to win (especially if they hit hard often). With the Soma, I have a 2nd chance to get a weak attack with the added bonus of a random curse. I could only borrow one for a short time... the feeling of awe sniffles this was good = must buy now :D

I'm still trying to figure out what scrolls & what is best at this time or wait. Right now i'm focusing on getting Poukie several books to read... it's going to take a few hours ;)

- glad you are finding things that work for you. Have fun battling and enjoy your new battle weapons/scrolls.

When books start getting expensive there are also some stat boosters that boost intelligence. Just remember you always need to read a book after boosting to actually receive the AP you've earned.

I set the limit to 250k per item and did a book search on subeta. I'm comparing the books Poukie read. I hadn't bought many from Skittles shop so I got several there. I'm up to Bs so I have a ways to go before I finish at Z :D

- yes the special shops can often be good book sources. At least you're only reading to one battle pet. I'm now reading to four. :-) That's one of the hardest parts of having multiple pets because they can generally share weapons and scrolls. Hope Poukie enjoys reading time. :-)

I read to all my 6 pets; however, Poukie gets more expensive books, Kleenex gets mid-range expensive & the rest of the gang gets less expensive or event books that I get multiple copies of. I, unfortunately, can't afford expensive books for all... otherwise I would. Poukie is the only one in the SAI agency and it's tough to promote her... level is the biggest issue for now. The more books she reads, the higher she'll be able to go :D Her reading is a great overall investment including in battles... but finances are the issue. I'm putting some of the profit I've earned towards the books, I'm sure I'll get a few cheap ones I overlooked ;)

- that makes sense. In my case my pets have always been low AP and have only read inexpensive books but I've been buying and saving books for years. I didn't have scrolls so I didn't need AP - and I didn't have AP so I wound up investing in weapons rather than scrolls. LOL But scroll use is becoming more and more important as Tos grows and when I started 81, I began her intelligence with Mystic Spindles and specifically wanted to grow her AP to see what she could do with the scrolls I did have available. (A T1 with Aftershocks can be awesome!). So, not wanting to play favorites, I wound up reading to all my battle pets. But Tos always gets each book first. :-)

It helps that I restock and sell books in my shop. I get the restocking books for less sP that way and can sell some of the extras to help pay for other stuff. And books are always my first grab at the Token Shop and are usually my priority for holiday shopping too.

I'm trying to figure out when I should just start buying intel boosters. :-)

Some day, when Tos has a high enough AP, I would like her to work at SAI.

Definitely wait for SAI, most are mad scientists and I get more sp from them than Poukie. Kleenex works for Suboutique and she needs high AP (not as bad as Poukie) so honestly, there's more profit till you have a huge level and high AP to work elsewhere than SAI.

Having been a Reference Librarian & Archivist... I do have a weakness for books ;) Good amount of AP to have scrolls has always been a priority in my battle strategies. I want to see how high I can get Poukie with a reasonably good budget. You can have all the pretty scrolls in the world but if you don't have enough AP they're not very useful. Void blocks 75 of all icons & has a nice hit... but it's a once per battle and uses 50 (fifty) AP... so if I can get Poukie to get 54 extra AP it would be nice eh he he :)

- that's sort of why I've waited, although it's a job I've had in mind for a long time now. :-)

If you look you'll see most of the top battlers have very high AP - well past what they can get from just books. It used to be that you needed to read a book every 16th intel point to gain that single AP but now, at least, if you boost you only need to read a single book at the end to gain all the AP your boosters earned. I've been told there's a point where it's more cost effective to use boosters and am still trying to figure out where that is for my pets.

I've heard of Void, but obviously never used it myself. I tend to focus more on the long term battle rather than on single hits because I usually need to last a while to win a battle now. But the Void also has a high chance of freezing so that would make it more valuable.

If I had infinite AP and funding I'd gladly equip all the big scrolls. :-) So far I've mostly been able to hold my own in beating the same challengers that my more experienced battle friends with similar tier pets can defeat (thanks, in part to all their help and support), so I'm reasonably happy for now.

Let me know how the reading goes. I hope you and Poukie have much success (and fun!) in the Battle Coliseum.

eh saw your post in the stalker status bar and went to nosy about.

- well, I guess that explains it then. :-)

I'm glad you followed arixen here, hugs :) I'm still evaluating; however, I'm strongly considering GotF.

I managed to get my AP up to 85... that's over 1.2k books & I've been collecting Shinwa items for almost a year now. I used everything I had and the AP went from 81 to 85. I had sold most of my tomes; however, I did have 1 ice tome that increases intel so I used that as well. I'd say when the books are 500k and over, start considering items to increase stats. I can now hold 5 scrolls 15AP with an additional 10AP left so I can use a colbat or other lower AP. The void uses 50AP and is a once per battle, that would leave 2 scrolls at 15AP and 5 extra AP if I want a higher scroll.

I'm not sure about Void. At higer levels Poukie gets pulverized even with a GotF. The Void would allow to withstand 1 round; however, I don't have enough power in the punch to do a one hit kill... more like ten or more hits if I manage to survive. I can only load one of these so Poukie is no better off than now. For a boss event, even 75 block is insufficient, I'd need a 100% blocker, which is unattainable. Most high scrolls are 15 AP (triple threat is 18) so I could use 3 high end scrolls vs 1 void and it's a once per battle. I'm not sure it's wise at this point to spend all that sp when I need other things.

Try investing your EXP and training into a higher health build. It will allow you to beat opponents more easily without having to rely as much on gear.

I don't think The Void will be effective for you because it eats too much of your AP. Personally, I almost never use it, even with Crimsyn. I would rather put three Shrieks in its place and hope for a chain freeze.

It'll take a while but I am focusing on health when training since exp costs more for health. I boost def & level as well as strength with exp and that way it trains faster for health. I'll just have to keep at it. I have found out that a big game changer is if I use a potion that helps increase strength & def... was desperate at the end and threw everything I could except the kitchen sink :D

I'll have to see how Shrieks fair tomorrow... must still beat Daeomon for 2nd part of scroll.

for the 75th win, Poukie had 807 hp & Mama Mush had 13440 hp. Drum rolls:

You have defeated Mama Mush 75 times!

Mama Mush drops: Mama Mush Tattered Scroll Piece (the coveted prize finally!!!) Freezing Moonstone Crystal Wind Moonstone Crystal Wind Defense Moonstone Crystal Poukie earned 30 EXP Points!

Just making sure, you did get the Soma Tablets back in your inventory, right? I sent them under 30 min after borrowing. I couldn't have beaten Mama Mush without your help! Thank you, squishy hug. I still have Daemon to beat so I'll try my luck tomorrow. I'll take your offer of the 2 days so I'll return them late tomorrow evening, especially since I'm out part of the day tomorrow & spent most of this day trying to up my AP (now 85). I definitely can't buy everything in that set but I'll have to figure out what makes the best difference that can hold up to numerous challengers. At least one GotF for sure. I already bought the Soma Tablets, it made the difference reaching 75.

yup got it.

If you really want to mess around with a void scroll let me know. It's pretty junky though. You need like 415 int+ to really make use of voids.

- congratulations. Poukie's AP is now far above any of my pets (Tos, my T10, currently only has an AP of 48 and my other pets are in the 30's).

And major kudos for getting your 75 wins against Mama Mush. You definitely have the persistence of a good battler. :-}

That's why I don't bother with bombs any more (most of the time). One hit is just not enough to kill the tough challengers so the slot is often better taken up with something to help me survive longer (a weapon with a chance to freeze, a good blocker, a second healer, an extra full blocker ... ).

Many good scrolls need more than 15 AP. Psycho Smash is 16, Lucky is 17 and, as you said, Void is 50 all by itself. The good news is that you have time to continue to read and find/buy/use intel boosters.

For a boss event, you don't worry about healing and only worry about partial blocking when you are already very high tier. That's when Rainbow Vortex, Shinwas Temple Shard and/or Amulet of Neutrality and/or a LOT of freezers can make a big difference in your results. A little pet basically dies the first round they run out of full blockers against an unfrozen boss. Every freeze allows a two weapon hit, rather than just one weapon plus blocker, so those are how you get better damage for each battle. Of course, against a boss, it's generally total damage that counts so you can just one hit, die and then heal, the only real problem with that aside from the extra time is that the healing costs add up fast if you're trying to compete with the big guys. :-) Bosses are also where bombs can help if you have the extra weapon slots (those full blockers and freezers tend to fill them up fast) and if you have a bomb that hits a lot harder than your infinite use attackers. Any curse damage you can manage can also help boost your damage total. Potions and shards are usually not used here unless you have a lot of sP to throw at the boss. :-)

If you're willing to use potions against a tough challenger it's good to have a Negating Pylonic available to use in a pinch, also a Glaciating Pylonic (for a possible freeze), a Regenerating Pylonic (use first turn for that strength and defense boost). In a tight squeeze a Revivifying Pylonic (100 hp heal) can also help, as can Necrotic (5% heal), Mutagenic (50 hp heal), or Mercurial (chance to freeze) Throwing Vials. Unlike dark potions, you can only equip one of each of these to a pet, so I tend to equip them and leave them there so I don't forget and they are available if I choose to use them. If you have a spare weapon slot, the Repair Bot is a single use item that heals 1000 hp. A Life Shard is fairly inexpensive and heals 1-10%. And for a time of super desperation, the Potion of Life is a very expensive (1.35 million sP right now) potion that heals 1000 hp. Other potions and shards can also help, depending on your challenger. But costs can add up fast here since each item is single use and must be repurchased for the next battle.

I think with the Shrieks & Morso I'll be ok for Daemon (I really hope). It's tough at Poukie's AP lvl to deal with a Void & to get the intel over 400 extra it's too expensive right now... I just have enough to buy 2 GotF if I chose to get 2.

Only the last few rounds i used dark water potions to help give more punch and survive. The very last round it was every possible potion with the pyl & throwing vials I had on me (most of them), used the stat booster 1st round which made a mega difference, and finished off with dark water. I got a bunch of the dark water as drops so I could use them more freely whereas the pyl & vials it's only out of desperation & rarely used since the prices were really high when I got them. Poukie barely made it the last round but did, so happy!!!

- yes, the last round of 75 when you're trying to earn something special is a great place to throw the kitchen sink. Throwing dark potions or throwing vials can be a good way to add a little extra damage for a special challenger when you need it. But yes, it can get expensive so must be used strategically for those of us on a budget.

It's so thrilling to finally get that last really hard win and earn that special loot. You and Poukie did a great job. Be sure to let us know how you're doing with Daemon. Good Luck!

You have defeated Daemon 44 times!

It's tough. I hate challengers with no heal more than no freeze. Right now I'm using 3 borrowed shrieks plus a moro and I'd need another shriek rather than a moro to do better (last till 75). Every time I finish I battle buttwing to recoup hp so it's taking a good amount of time.

I'm also dealing with issues with my housecleaning company increasing fees without notifying & them not knowing the laws pertaining to contracts. Numerous phone calls to get informed & still trying to deal with issue. I didn't go to knitting because it rained then iced everywhere & I need to eat lunch soon. I was woken up early & I feel exhausted so I really need my nap later... so somewhere in there I'll try to finish off Daemon before the end of the day but most likely near the very end of the day.

- you're doing great! Keep it up.

No heal is definitely a LOT worse than no freeze. Those are the challengers where the full blockers can really come in handy if you're close to a win.