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Oct 27, 2017 8 years ago
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I am not for it. Battling is the most expensive thing on this site! Not to sound bitchy, but they should release them in a way they have to be earned, not just bought. They have put some really close alternatives in the MC. Right there they can just be bought. Release them by 'earning' them.

Have to beat every BC challengers so many times and after that you earn a chip to go into a "weapon shop" only and you can use your chip to then buy one.

All I can say is if they put a few more out there it should have to have something to do with battling and earning. It doesn't have to be something that is major hard. Hell it could be after completing so many BQ's (whatever number) you earn a chip to buy one. Yes it will take people that don;t have strong pets longer because they can't finish as many, but if they hit the "certain" amount it at least shows they are dedicated to battling.

Just tossing them in a shop for sale doesn't seem like a good idea seeing how easy it is to make SP here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and yes opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and most think others stink. I am just not one to follow along with something I personally don;t think is right or a good idea, so I will put my opinion out there even if others think it stinks.

If the battle admins think there should be more out there I don't think putting a handful out is bad. (not that any of our opinions matter) Just think they should be put out in a battle related way,

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Oct 27, 2017 8 years ago
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The original god weapons were not released in battle events. I think all but one of them come from restock wars, and the Oracle Staff was one of the original reading drive prizes, back when it was the reading contest.

We have reading drive items in the antique shop already, and I never understood why restock war items were not added in there, instead of the crystal shop. With old trivia items and other junk, there is plenty to fill the crystal shop with.

Add them to the Antique Shop.

We don't need more tokens, or crystals sinks.

Oct 27, 2017 8 years ago
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For example 6-7 years ago when I first joined the site, everyone would quote god weapon prices at 400mil-600mil, but back then everyone said the same thing they are saying now, god weapons never sell. So I went out and offered someone 850mil for an Ostaff and they accepted. Everyone thought I was insane to pay that much, but that set off a new flurry of god weapon sales
Isn't that the point that money needs to leave the game in some way? So that prices don't continue to climb just because people have nothing else to do with it? You said you paid more than the what would have been the price for an item, and then others realized that they could be making more too, which lead to the price going up and we've just been rolling from there. When there's a limited amount of an item that only a few people still have access to and even less want to sell, that's what happens. Prices go up just because they can.

Or... have we been trying to say the same thing ? It's hard to tell when you post what you would think things are worth to no one in particular; do you think that they need to stay at that value or...? I think it's off, even if there might be some user or a few users that would pay that with our bloated sack of an economy. A lower price could be better so that there's more incentive for more users with fat stacks to get rid of it, rather than just a couple of users who get tickled by the massive price. The potential joy of a select few users that might do X should not be considered over everyone else.

Like, the Wrath Of Kahaleitzli and Sword of the Seven Seas are both 4B right now, and I believe that they are fairly comparable to the way the old god weapons were released (even if the gods are more of a status symbol). That should be more of an acceptable price for many users, instead of just a select few users. Even if there might be, say, 510 people that would pay a lot more, just becuase they have nothing else to buy, there's no reason to impose that on everyone. Other users may as well have a reasonable chance at random old things that a few people got from restock/plot event ages ago; it does not matter if they've put time and money into a battle pet at all, it's all time. It's strange. I keep seeing how battlers are so welcoming and open, but when the question of other people being able to buy items that happen to be strong weapons too comes up, it really does not feel that way. Like, there's only one correct way that people are allowed to ever consider getting these things? :P

Before I forget, it helps to post the actual name of the items that are being discussed, instead of abbreviations. Not everyone who might want to comment know what a SoSS is or whatever. That kind of groupspeak exclude others from being able to weigh in just because they're not in-the-know already.

&, the bit about comparing CSC prices to actual money? I guess that's where you guys are getting your $200 worth and stuff from. Thank you for explaining that, Sovi. But, man, we don't get USD back when we trade it in for site money. That cash is subeta-money now. It's gone. It's never going to be cash money again. (which is why it was confusing) And, the price of CSC is only going to keep going up, if money isn't being removed and there's nothing to buy with it, since a small group of users can have and control the prices the rare items as it is. People who can afford to turn their actual money into site only money are just going to keep buying for themselves, instead of selling it, if there's nothing that they can buy with their sP in the end anyway. Having obtainable goals where the finish line doesn't keep moving further away is lovely.

It's like how the special skin zap on the zapper is set at 1,000,000sP and 250 tokens. That's an amount that a normal user can do with just their wizard quests and a few other quests, not to mention selling items from quests too. Before, I was thinking that 50,000,000sP for a skin was totally do-able, but it's just not for normal players, which is why it was a joke; a joke my rich ass did not catch.

Or, the top experiment pet pulling only ~870,500,000sP. Like, damn, that was a crazy realization to see that I could personally buy which pet would be on the site all by myself. That is a horrible thing. I need to have something more constructive to do with my money, other than putting up stupid billboards, buying out old shops in the hopes that it might encourage someone to stay around and sending random people stuff they want, as I don't want to just boost my pets or buy limited custom wearables and play that version of the stock market. hahaha. I'd much rather be able to buy a couple of things for a price I would prefer than just hoarding onto it.

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I am not for it. Battling is the most expensive thing on this site! Not to sound bitchy, but they should release them in a way they have to be earned, not just bought. They have put some really close alternatives in the MC. Right there they can just be bought. Release them by &;earning&; them.
Thanks for sharing! You're not bitchy at all & opinions don't stink; they should be shared when it comes to things like this! :D Is spending time making money not earning? Or are things only earning when time is spent on specific kinds of clicking? If the god weapons were for sale, that's still in line with battling being the most expensive thing, as these suckers would probably be over the ~4B that the other prize weapons are selling for. How does that devalue the time that other people put in battling and training when the items did not have to do with being battle prizes anyway? I also rather like the idea of tying them to battle questing in some way, since that's doable for many users. I know I'm always racking them up and getting more rewards would be nice. haha.

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Oct 28, 2017 8 years ago
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Fully support. There's some godlies that are a MUST for my wardrobe by the way.

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Oct 28, 2017 8 years ago
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I know they made the antique shop as a way to bring back items. The thing is, it kind of says, "Hey don't worry about participating in an event or anything." Just wait it out and sooner or later you can just buy it in the antique shop. Maybe I am just not a fan of the antique shop. I know they want some kind of SP sink though.

As Sopheroo put it they were from restock wars or book drives. These are things that people earned/participated in. I don't understand why they still can't be earned in some way. If someone put a lot of time/effort/money or whatever it may be into an event they earned what they got.

Oh trust me, I have been a major RS'r since I joined I am always busy earning SP. I just don't see it as the same thing as putting time and effort into an event that you know your working for something "special" at the end of the event. Again only my opinion. Not to mention these days as long as people are willing to spend real money it's pretty easy to make a ton of SP. I support the site, but that is buying my gold acct or CSC challengers.

I guess I am rambling, but as you can tell I am a nope don't support this. This is what makes the world go around, different things for different folks.

I'm just not really going to get to worried about this, because in the end it is not our decision. I don;t feel the need to rock the boat on something that is out of my hands, I was just tossing n my quick 2 cents. I really don;t post in the forums much. This board was just brought to my attention, so now I am off to kick that user in the butt for getting me here, haha

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Oct 28, 2017 8 years ago
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Seriously @ Lyn , please don't feel like I am trying to pressure you into feeling any certain way; really should have written that lurker note better. (edited it~) I used to barely post about anything as I didn't want to make people dislike me, but I've been trying to change that and to just care a whole lot less about everything. haha.

I was (and am) just curious why people are against the items being rereleased or want to make them so much, just because they could sell for very high prices when there are so few around isn't convincing me that they should have some much higher price than comparable items. Or, I'd like to know more about the possible idea that other people having the chance to gain something devalues what someone else may have done in the past. (not that I matter or if it really matters if I'm convinced or not; I just want to understand other people's opinions on it better)

But, really, you don't have to apologize for your opinion on it so much, you make a lot of sense! ;D I hadn't considered the idea that things eventually ending up in the antique shop might make people less interested in participating in plots. You'd rather the items be earned in some way and there's nothing wrong with that. I like the idea of them being tied to the Battle Royale / Battle Quests achievement. (not that I matter or you need my praise. haha.) Like, if you hit... eh, 10~25,000 or so, you get a random god weapon? Even if you can do 25 a day, that's only 9,000 battle quests a YEAR if you miss no days. That'd be cool, except when the 'random' get stuck and people get upset about all the X being released. heh.

& plots are fun, but sometimes you miss out. I know that I missed the last bit of the battling in the masquerade murder plot (family in the hospital), and I used to think that restock wars and book drives were a stupid way to try and make people spend money, so I didn't bother until the later ones. Stupid me making stupid decisions!

& like you said, none of what any of us type really matters anyway, if weapons are solely left up to some staff / just the battle admins or whatever. So they probably won't be released or will be done in some annoying way that limits the pool of users to a few hundred that could possibly even have a chance at them again and even less obtaining them. Hell, one day the site will stop existing and all of this will be for nothing too.

(but, I found out that the maximum number of characters one can reply with is 6,000 and you get a little message when you try to post with more! That would not have happened otherwise. :D ) [edit]You got a forum point while making a post! Check out the shop here! Oh yeah, getting points too.

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Oct 28, 2017 8 years ago
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I know they made the antique shop as a way to bring back items. The thing is, it kind of says, &quot;Hey don&;t worry about participating in an event or anything.&quot; Just wait it out and sooner or later you can just buy it in the antique shop. Maybe I am just not a fan of the antique shop. I know they want some kind of SP sink though.</p>
<p>As Sopheroo put it they were from restock wars or book drives. These are things that people earned/participated in. I don&;t understand why they still can&;t be earned in some way. If someone put a lot of time/effort/money or whatever it may be into an event they earned what they got.

Just my opinion. People will always participate in events and plots because they'll want the prizes straight away rather than waiting years for them to go into the Antique Shop.

I have prizes earned from original events and plots. I really don't mind newer people earning the sP to buy stuff from the Antique Shop.

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Oct 29, 2017 8 years ago
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I don't get the mindset here of "it should be earned" in some special and fancy way. Like, we are talking about billions of SP. How exactly do you think that person got all that money? They certainly wren't handed it, and I think spending years saving and questing and working hard qualifies as earning.

I totally support this suggestion. And this is coming from someone who's been here almost 11 years an never even hit the 300m mark lmao.

Oct 30, 2017 8 years ago
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And I just sold my godly for 250k csc. Yea, too ridiculous high if you ask me but you do t see me complaining.

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