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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Captain Beatd0wn

are you including the levels?

I guess the way I break down a tomes value is: 2 Intel, 2 levels, and 8 other stats Intel valued at 800K each Levels get valued at 0 And then the rest of the stats get valued at 150K-240K depending on how much I'm spending on the tomes. With that valuation for a while, random stats were 100K each.

That doesn't even take into account the HP probably could be valued much higher, since the only way to currently get HP stand alone is about 480K per point, which is insane when you compare it to tomes.

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Quote by THESOVEREIGN
did you actually run the math on that, or just eyeballing it?</p>
<p>If you did the math what did you use for the baseline cost of each stat?
i just did some lazy napkin math when i started a while back. As with everything, it all depends - how many stats, what split, timeline (probably the most important, if you're patient your cost will unsurprisingly drop long term).

I realized I couldnt match the volume of tomes with any other booster. Sure you could buy life crystals at 4/500k or healing wines are decent prices, but how many? definitely not more than a few hundred.

whereas amulets, you can buy it by the thousands and have the avg price barely moves. 2-3 yrs ago, i bought almost 10k in the span of like 2months. cant do that with any other booster.

As for leeches, i had prob 3k imp tokens with honestly no real need for them. so thats kind of a wildcard. I think leeches all depend on tokens you have because youre not gonna find a great deal on them.

I dont have the exact numbers, but for my 24k hp pet, theres no way using health boosters would have been more cost effective. esp at that volume without waiting centuries

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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I am struggling just to get through dailies right now with all the down time x.x Oranos is currently 100 stats away from T10 and really needs as many battle quests as he can get before the morostide challengers arrive.

Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Killer Threat

Yes. Level boosters usually run 2-300K. While I usually up level only through exp, I will use tomes or FFroth from the BC shop at times when the pet is out of exp.

Good Luck! Hope the site cooperates!

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Ahh ok, I think we have different definitions of cost effective. Sounds like you are basically comparing the cost to the cost of a market order for as much of Stat X as you need at that time over the course of a couple months.

I think if you space it over the course of 1-2 years though, it isn't really cost effective to leach stats, but if I were to go and buy up literally every booster I could until I got the stats I wanted today, it would eventually become cost effective to buy tomes and a couple leeches. Interesting.

Interesting, I usually value the levels at 0, I have kept up with level just by using tomes, but I rarely ever use the training center anyways, so I don't ever include them.

[edit] Captain Beatd0wn Training Time: 1000 minutes Cost: 93915 sP

Thats really not even that much of a bargain when compared to stat boosters lol

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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You Won!

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Afflicted earned 3500 EXP Points! Head back to the Battle Quest headquarters to finish up this quest! Because this was level 30 you earned 3500 experience!

BQ done for the day, now to try to get the other quests done while the site behaves. :)

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Thank you! Managed to get battle quests done today at least

Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Killer Threat

I don't think I boost nearly as much as you do. Right now, with KT, I am training str and using his exp for str and level as needed. If a str or level booster meets my price point, I will pick it up. I'm actually using tomes on smaller pets -- right now a T11 I'm trying to get to T12 is getting those. I use the training center to even out his stats and then use a tome when he's ready to go up another level.

Why don't you use the TC? The gym is much cheaper than any booster -- even at KT's level.

YAY! Let's hope tomorrow goes smoothly as well. crosses fingers

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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When I am playing somewhat actively I only jump on 1-2x per day, and usually within the window of a training session. And then I go MIA for weeks at a time. Just has pretty minimal impact overall. Bad habit really.

plus its really not that much more cost effective compared to tomes: Captain Beatd0wn Training Time: 1000 minutes Cost: 93915 sP

Mage amulets at 330K each break even at that price point.

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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I haven't bought an amulet in AGES! They've just been too expensive. I can often find tomes at my price point which makes the amulets over-valued -- even at the 1:6 ratio I keep hearing about, but almost never see. lol

It's those MIA stints that are killing you. If you were on more regularly, doing bqs daily, your costs would plummet since you wouldn't need to buy boosters to keep up. Even if all you did was log on for Shinny and bqs, you'd be done in like 15 minutes and have exp to spend on the stats you wanted. :)

EDIT: I forgot about her: (Too bad we can't ask her for the boost we want!)

Thank You for bringing me back my item! To thank you, here is a reward.

Reward :

15 Point Wizard Token AND Your pet Killer Threat gains 6 Defense! AND 2,172sP!

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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I use a 1:7 ratio, and the math still works out 400K for a mage amulet puts a tome at 2.8 Subtract off the cost of intel of 1.6mil puts the stats at 1.2mil If you are counting level as usable stats that puts it at 120K per stat, if you don't that puts it at 150K per stat.

at 330K mage amulets tomes are 2.3mil suptract off the 1.6mil puts the rest of the stats at 700K Using levels that puts stats at 70K each and without it or if you count levels at 0 that puts your cost at 87.5K per stat.

How much are you spending on tomes? I haven't seen a decently priced tome in years. I caved and bought a bunch of tomes of shop search recently to power out the last couple wins on meatslab, but I was not happy about the price, and the person who had them in their shop was a friend who had actually lent me some weapons for meatslab or I would have never touched them.

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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I don't subtract the cost of intel. (Why do you? I don't understand that part. Explain?) I use a straight 10 stats per tome -- so a 2.3 mil tome is, in my mind, 230k per stat.

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Oh wow congrats on getting so close to tier 10! That is awesome!

I did half my BQs last night and will attempt to finish what I can in a moment... maybe.

Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Because intel it is always useful and you always need more intel, and it is significantly more expensive per point, and has a relatively definable fixed value based on the pure intel boosters that are out there.

You could get all the way to a capped pet without any boosters and just EXP, but you can't do the same with intel. You have a fixed pool of cheap enough books, and once that has been exhausted, you need intel boosters.

I haven't checked how many books there are under 800K, in a while, but the last time I checked it was something like less than 700, which is not enough intel.

So I hold 800K as a fixed price per intel that I will eventually need to spend. Versus the cost of a speed which I may eventually need to leech.

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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25/30 BQs done.

Couldn't even get anyone else for 26 because I got Maleria's Familiar THREE times! I wasted both skips too.... hmph.

Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Your method makes sense, but I'm going to stick with mine. I'm just too cheap. lol Besides, there are always more books coming out -- like with holidays & events. It's not like the supply will never grow. I do get the importance of intel though. You're preaching to the choir on that one.

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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I have had such terrible luck with amulets I started selling them to buy boosters about a month ago, LOL. I figure that it is the more reliable way to get boosters since I seem to have bad RNG luck.

Intelligence: 3714 AP: 230

Need more, always need more AP. :P

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Congrats on your AP, good luck getting more! :D

Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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I have had such terrible luck with amulets I started selling them to buy boosters about a month ago, LOL.
even though it doesnt seem like it. I bet if you tracked all the amulets you turned it, itll have like a 1/6 or 16% chance average.

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Oct 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Thank you! I was hoping on morostide starting during like the last 2 weeks of the month to give me more time to train so I hope I can get there before night lady arrives or at least get 10 wins on her with my second pet. I also am really hoping to get the 10 wins on Rouland too. I need 7 this year so I will be happy if I can at least get that many.

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