Oh man I'm terrible at catching up on threads so I'm just replying to everything chronologically, you'll have to forgive me if the thread's moved on from there //weeps.

& big mood on everything i'm so out of coffee

ahh, non-binary as a default choice, and either the option being added to the gender berry (re-doing it I suppose) or added as its own separate berry.

I might've been confusing in my post, but I meant my personal viewpoint is that the genderless berry (and the suggested genderfluid berry in another thread) should not be changed? There was suggestion it could be scrapped or turned into an NB berry!

For me, personally, what I'd like to have is a choice between male, female, and 'nb'.

Genderless/agender and everything else fall under the NB spectrum, so for me it would get too complicated having everything on pet create. My stance is that you can be NB from the start- which as a label includes being agender/genderfluid/genderless- and if you want further definition for your pet's gender, you can obtain these Genderless Berries etc.

(tagging , , , here too for the above paragraph) (this is just my personal opinion, disclaimer lmao, anyone please correct me if you think I'm wrong ahh)

To me, I think that male, female, or other is most inclusive. 'Other' being 'NB', or else just using NB. Genderless (agender in RL terms) falls under the NB umbrella, therefore 'Other'/NB as I argue should be more important, and we should have it now. ( on this one )

I agree.

@ the people who've been arguing about symbols I've taken the liberty of drawing up a few symbols that could possibly be used.

Non Binary , Bigender , Genderfluid , Transgender

(Obviously, I'm not Subeta Staff, or an artist or anything, this is just my own suggestion).

ooh, alright! that makes sense. i was getting a little lost in all the different suggestions and just wanted to be clear on what was what i guess, haha

those are really nice o:

100% support!

i have a NB character and i'm frustrated that my only option is the genderless berry, since they're not genderless, they're just...not binary, lol. and even still, the fact that we have to pay to get the option to have genderless to begin with is pretty frustrating.

honestly, i would be satisfied if there was an "other/neither" option, as well as a "genderless" option in pet creation. perhaps the "other/neither" option could just not have an image at all?

but i'm not NB, so if someone who is has a better idea, we should probably listen to them. ^^