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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
PiplupMagby34
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Elsy

Hey! It's a small world then! I also like angel pets, as you can see from my profile.

Not trying to scare you guys, but I want to hear your thoughts on this. :)

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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Venom

It's been on a slow death for years for numerous factors. The biggest being: It can't compete with mobile gaming and relies too heavily on whales to sustain itself. For the amount of money it's currently getting/expecting from its userbase: Subeta needs to be more interactive. More games, more things to do with pets, more regular items that are on par with paid ones; more ways to earn CSC for free (why haven't we done the x amount of videos a day thing? They'd be making more money off that than having ads in the sidebar.) They also need to be more fair when it comes to the user base. GA's having their own forum is bad enough but the fact that they're constantly catered to and have their opinions held above all others has always been a problem.

Oh, plus it keeps making anti-consumer decisions and constantly screws over its player base (though the elites only ever to see it as a problem if it messes with them. If it messes with usually free users like myself, they don't care.) It doesn't help that people are simply deleting CSC and CW's now with the now crippled Pawn Shop. I was never a fan of it because I knew it would lead to this mess, but I ended up relying on it because--hell yeah I'm going to spend only 400 on a 700csc item--but with it gone, people are just burning money so inflation's only gotten worse what with CSC becoming more rare and harder to buy.

Getting off my soapbox for a minute; there's also the reality that people have lives and may have dodged Subeta for a three day weekend, online events elsewhere or just had jobs. The site hasn't really grown since I've been gone (for six months) and that's another problem. While there's seemingly little to do for experienced users, for new users it's overwhelming but instead of taking them through it step by step, they instead place unfair restrictions on new users to... what? Prevent multi-accounting? IDK. Gah, sorry, got back on my soapbox.

Anyway, for what it's worth, I'm sorry for not doing my part very well. The day before I slept in and only managed to do 20 quests before time ran out, missed yesterday due to emotional distress and a beyond fried brain and today is sleeping in again, though I still have time. (BTW, can anyone explain to me why it still takes me an hour to do quests despite them being reduced to 15 from 30 a year ago, but my friend Ilia can finish her quests within 15 minutes.)

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
Duane
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Alex the Great Dragon

hey everyone the site is not dying just because we might not reach our goal for the Quest-a-thon .... Y would you even make a topic about this ... R u trying to scare people into thinking that Subeta is dying that's not even right you should have them lock this topic before people freak out

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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Fartsie

I wouldn't say dying but slower? Surely.

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
Jonquil
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Jonquil

I think they gave us a two day notice (announcement on June 10, and started it June 12) that we were having a quest-a-thon. That seemed like such a short amount of time for us and it was really easy to miss in the news post, as not everybody logs in on a daily basis. With the baking contest happening at the same time, it was easy to miss the news about quest-a-thon.

That, combined with it being a higher number of quests needed this time, and happening right as summer begins for school, and Father's Day weekend, I think we're not seeing as many people on questing.

I really hope they factor all these issues in, should we not make the goal.

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
Lypsyl
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Crotchety

I don't think we can judge the site's "health" based on a single event. As others have stated there are reasons this quest-a-thon is going slower than others have.

Also, part of it is our fault for being too good and too eager to quest for these events. In the past we've won too easily. Every time we've had another one, staff has made the time shorter, or the quests needed higher. I think making it harder is a good thing. Its shouldn't be a giveaway. There should be some worry whether or not we'll make the goal.

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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Madison

Nope! Not dying, maybe they didn't think this event through very well, but one event doesn't kill an entire website as well run as this one usually is. There is a very large dedicated core fanbase that pay a lot of cash to play here rather then other more insipid, corporate-run schlock sites. It would probably be a better idea to use positive psychology when attempting to motivate people to complete more quests for the quest-a-thon. Reverse psychology is never a win win and it can be construed as manipulative cynicism. Nobody likes to be manipulated.

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
PiplupMagby34
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Elsy

That's okay. Not your fault. ❤ I agree with more ways to earn CSC for free. I also wouldn't mind if submissions prices for CWs were cheaper. $5000 to submit a background or dress is a turn off for me. You're right. I suggest that next quest-a-thon, one of the prizes should be both miracle potions to everyone who participates. Some users aren't crazy about new slots; if a new color/species combo comes out that they like, they'll just change one of their pets. You're right about the baking contest. Some people aren't good artists, and no participation prize this time turned some away.

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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Kilgharra

I've been actually thinking today we were too behind to make it :(

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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I was wondering why we seemed so far behind this time! I know at least for my part I def didn't do my share this time. Real life got in the way and also like some others have said, I didn't feel too motivated by the prizes. I think the last time, it was making everyone a weekend quest that motivated me. Oh well!

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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I don't think it's dying but not enough time given before hand, same prizes again, and just shorter time.

I think the prizes should be at least mixed up or maybe improved. I love pet slots like many others but having a potion or something else to aim for would be nice as well. Titles and bathhouse tokens don't really get me, I'm after the pet slot but like a few others have said, they don't want or need another pet slot. Maybe if there was a way for those that DON'T want pet slots to give'em way, sell them back to the site for a decent amount of sP or some other thing, that'd help get those that don't need/want a new slot to participate.

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago Official
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Quote by Lypsyl
I don&;t think we can judge the site&;s &quot;health&quot; based on a single event. As others have stated there are reasons this quest-a-thon is going slower than others have.</p>
<p>Also, part of it is our fault for being too good and too eager to quest for these events. In the past we&;ve won too easily. Every time we&;ve had another one, staff has made the time shorter, or the quests needed higher. I think making it harder is a good thing. Its shouldn&;t be a giveaway. There should be some worry whether or not we&;ll make the goal.

We actually have had different times for them! One was 10 days, we've had a 5 days one. This one is a bit more challenging because it's 750,000 (when last time we did 750k you had a few more days). We don't want it to be just a giveaway, and you guys have proved in the past you have the dedication! ;)

Also for those pointing out we didn't advertise/etc enough for the quest-a-thon, you can look at the past times we've done this and it's usually less than 24 hours beforehand. This time we did it two days before plus twitter/fb. This isn't going to be the last quest-a-thon (we've got another planned for this year even!) so if you don't make the goal it's not that bad, you'll have another chance at some cool prizes. :)

Once again though, going to point out what I said in the news comments: We're not going to give out CSC/cash shop items as prizes in any quest-a-thon. That would be way too much going into the system. We generally do a pet slot, currencies, forum titles, etc because they're not going to wreck the economy or anything and we try to appeal to different things (some people collect forum titles, a lot of people enjoy pets but don't want to spend the CSC/literal millions of sP on them, etc). :)

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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Curse

Might this be an occasion to bring back the 'Loser' forum title? ;D

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
Solsticesprite
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what the heck whaaaa? Off the wall "this site will immediately die right now because catastrophe" stuff is a little kids on Neopets thingy.

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
PiplupMagby34
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Elsy

I guess the title should be changed. But it's really about the quest-a-thon. :)

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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No. This is unnecessarily dramatic.

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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Lorenna

No. Just because a contest isn't a gimmie doesn't mean the site is dying. Geez get real. Perhaps the very attitude that we always win these things, is what's working against us in this case.

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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I tried to do quests everyday, but not all like in the past, I work now, and I had a super busy schedule, so maybe work is the reason for a lot of people, plus the just 10quests, and the small amount of time this quest a thon is.

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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Quote by Amber
Once again though, going to point out what I said in the news comments: We&;re not going to give out CSC/cash shop items as prizes in any quest-a-thon. That would be way too much going into the system. We generally do a pet slot, currencies, forum titles, etc because they&;re not going to wreck the economy or anything and we try to appeal to different things (some people collect forum titles, a lot of people enjoy pets but don&;t want to spend the CSC/literal millions of sP on them, etc). :)

Thank everything for that! 👏

Everyone likes free CSC, no denying that, but it'd be a very bad idea to give it out en masse for a quest-a-thon. Even if it's 100CSC, that'd still be 100CSC per participating user. Assuming it's around 3000-6000 people that participate in various degrees, that's 300 000-600 000 CSC (3000-6000USD) being given out for literally clicking buttons for a couple hours. Yikes... Rather see that kind of money stay in Subeta's pockets and help fund various updates and fixes around the site.

I really like that you've added a little more incentive for this one for all the people who were meh about the prizes. You didn't exactly have to do it to give us a leg-up after we've been dragging our feet, so thank you! I might go more into that once I've had coffee and the obligatory quest-a-thon feedback topic pops up in Site Feedback. Can't focus for beans now.


And back on-topic? The site isn't dying, people were just not motivated and interested enough in the quest-a-thon. Once the "users online" counter starts dipping below 400 users during the busiest time of the day and the Daily Goal stays super low even during a Cash Shop Bonus Weekend, then you can start freaking out about the site dying. ;P

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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No, the possible failure of the Quest-a-thon is not an indicator of the site dying. If you think about it, we succeeded the last time we had to do 750k quests. The difference between last time and now is last time, we had a few more days. So, we're essentially going at the same pace (or maybe even a little faster) than last time. It just seems we're not doing as well because of the shorter time span.

Subeta is still very much alive. It's slowed down over the years, but it's nowhere near a point where we need to be concerned about its death.

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