So like, I get where you're coming from. I also totally get that things are far more popular than you realize sometimes and the risks that come with leaving everything unlimited all the time (because it's no fun to wait 394384082 years to submit an item, even with the new 5 slot batches). Also keeping track of lots of batches is a pain in the ass, and adding things to CW shops that don't have a limited number of copies is an even bigger one because we still can't get rid of them when we're done with them. SO. All that to say, I don't think your rules/requests are unreasonable at all, nor do I begrudge you your choices when you release. I absolutely 10000% get why.
I also can see how stressful it is to have to deal with the bad feelings you get watching people immediately flip items they slotted on, especially when you have a list of like 394082 people who wanted the copy for their wardrobe. If it would be less stressful to remove the rule and stop worrying about it, do it. If it would be more gratifying to up the number of batches, go for it. If it would be more stressful to change how you do things, then don't change them. You gotta do what's going to make you happiest ❤️ You paid for the art, you bought the recolors. If you decide to only slot your top 3 closest friends on everything in the future, then so be it. Ultimately I just want you to be not stressed out over shit that shouldn't be causing you stress because it's just supposed to be fun.
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I've been reading through and I think I like the suggestion of kinda rolling it item by item? Like if your friend group takes up 18 of 20 available slots, then add at least another 10-15 to reflect the larger amount of people in your public pings? I don't think it's an unreasonable request to not have people sell items super high, but also I think older items sometimes fall into a grey zone of like 'well I have had this for a year and used it a billion times and now kinda bored of it and just wanna trade for something I'll use and it's been forever so I feel too bad to pester the releaser' and taking away the super exclusivity of an item will help relax the high tag trade/sales.
If there was an item you felt you wanted to be super limited it could always be a friends release only and then people are bound (in theory) by private release rules and will contact you to trade back.
Alternatively you could create a little trading post thread thing in your group for people maybe wanting to swap colours etc so you could keep an eye on things and people might find it easier if they are exclusively looking for one of your items?
But overall I agree that you should do what you are most comfortable with! At the end of the day it's your money and your items so screw everyone else haha. I know the stress of trying to keep track of CWs - it was basically why I quit releasing anything, but things like higher batches and limited period releases might help out with that :) I kinda vote against 24hr and propose 48hr instead cause people don't always have time to check subeta every single day :x
Pictured above: varsna bein asked for him opinions bout apples n dandelionsI have a lot of ideas/thoughts/opinions/concepts about this tbh! you already basically know what I think & feel but i figure i'm going to post because a) tbh it might help other releasers too and b) i mean i just like to hear myself talk lets be real
i'm sorry in advance for the literal essay im about to write - im sorry to ping y'all to my novella but a lot of you cuties also release items quite a bit, and if not release you def slot so i'd tbh love to hear any feedback/criticisms of my thoughts abt releasing specifically from you m'cuties (some of this just directly addresses kayla's feelings/shop rules tho so out of context that might be like haha so vars what are you talking about tho)
i feel like ideally it's a perfectly reasonable request to ask that people not to slot just for profit/resell for profit, but the thing is it's a reasonable request, but not always a reasonable expectation, i think. people are probably going to do it anyway because either they're just gonna or because they aren't familiar with your feelings about it. what's worse is that it builds on itself, because if you specifically ask for it not to happen and then it happens-- sometimes out of sight so as "not to get caught"-- it makes it all the more personal feeling and doubles down on the feeling used emotion. i, perhaps naively, genuinely don't think that people set out to take advantage or have that concept in their mind when they flip a release (yours or anyone's tbh im just on a tangent now), but when it happens despite the 'please don't' rule it magnifies it infinitely. it feels personal, but it isn't, but it is, but not intentionally, yknow? i've struggled with that, too, with a few of my releases.
anyway, jumping off of that-- i think asking people not to slot if they aren't interested in an item is a valid rule/request & one that can really easily be measured/followed. if you happen to notice someone grab something just to turn it around, you can give them a nudge and direct to your shop rules where you ask for it not to happen, and just be like 'hey, i really prefer people not just slot stuff to make mad cash and this just got accepted, pls take that into consideration!!' or something along those lines. that way if it's just a genuine reminder or awareness issue, it's gentle and folks can know. if anyone gives you grief over it, then you can always just say 'ik its yours to do what you want with after buying and i respect that, but it's just my shop & makes me uncomfy and i prefer it that way so i may not slot you in the future if it's a trend, sorry'. and there's literally nothing wrong with that & nothing unreasonable about that whatsoever. people can argue about it but at the end of the day this is literally a game for fun and so your feelings are > any sense of entitlement of 'well i bought it so fuck you'. (not everyone who feels that way has the 'well i bought it so fuck you' mentality, im just using that as my hyperbole example because honestly i think in 9.9/10 cases anyone you addressed would be understanding and considerate of your feelings, even if they didn't necessarily agree/were more business-minded about it)
not selling for over slot price, imo, is trickier, because supply and demand comes into play. a lot of people get around this rule by having items as 'trade only' or whatevs, and imo i think that in and of itself creates a false sense of scarcity. there might be 4 available in trades, but nobody actually selling. it would in theory help drive down demand and boost supply to be more open to letting items go for above slot, because in most fathomable cases i really can't imagine an item going for more than 200 or 300 above slot at most, unless it was a VERY coveted colour. in that case, i think it would only solve the issue to do more batches of an item or it'll definitely spike in price regardless (i.e., brown, plat, black, blonde, and any flavour of the month coloured wigs could probably by default have an extra 10 slots tacked on without any consequence regarding the item's value).
as for other potential solutions-- i completely agree and wholeheartedly think that doing more 24hr releases throughout the year would be real cute & good, especially tbh of 'staple' colours like black & white clothes, plat hair, etc.. you could probably do black, brown, and plat as 24hr releases in almost every wig honestly-- so long as you did an initial colour first so that folks know whether or not they like/can work with the design itself. if you came right out the womb with a brand new wig, platinum unlimited 24hrs, there would absolutely be a lot of "WHOA SIGN ME THE FUCK UP!!!!" (i know this for a fact because i have had this exact feeling) and then potentially a surge of "ah shit that doesnt work with the eyebrows i like" afterwards (another exact feeling i have had). so to counterbalance the popular colours being unlimited & then capped after the slotting period, you'd have to do a potentially more niche one first so that buyers can get a feel for whether or not they're really into the shape/silhouette/fit of an item. the reception of that first one can help you determine popularity, and then you can figure it out from there what to do with the other colours.
overall, it's a little harder to see if an item is doing 'well' now that the pawn shop is closed-- normally you could take a peek in and see if any of your releases are swimming around, but with CSC user shops i think selling has gotten a lot easier so it still might be easy to check & balance if the market is oversaturated with something. just not as easy/as evident as if it were in the pawn.
regarding friend slots/giving friend & private group folks dibs...i've given this A LOT of thought lately because i'm personally struggling with how i feel about it. i feel like shit filling up 15 slots with my friends, and then pinging for just 5 and having like 20 people miss out. i'm a softie, and i hate seeing so many people walk away discouraged or bummed. at the same time, though, it's really important to me that my buds get slots on any and all releases i do because they are my dudes. i want them to always be able to have dibs and never miss, it's just my sentimentality and how i feel about it. so other than literally just boosting batch numbers right off the bat, i've thought of potentially doing preclaims/giving my buds dibs, and then if they fill, say, 10 slots, just adding another +10 slots when i release publicly. like if i do preclaims and only 4 or 5 people want in on it, i mean its a no-brainer i can probably leave slots alone as is and not add any to my original plan of 10 - 20 copies-- but if i get a lot of interest on an item before i ping my public group, then i can just go aight gonna bump this one up to 10 - 30 instead since i filled 15 already. i'd state that up-front from now on with preclaims obviously like hey if this gets a buncha interest from y'all i 100% plan on increasing how many will exist, not just "ok well now its 30". because that'd be dishonest/deceptive and also disorganized lmao.
anyway here's wonderwall, i didn't super proof-read this so it might be a real dumpster full of cabbages
Ah, Kayla, I am so sorry you have to worry about such things! ^-^ Your releases are already very varied, normal capped batches, unlimited 24h ones, raffles and contests, releasing the Pies in wizard colors with the opportunity for the wizarding people to slot, what can you do more? I wish with all my heart people would abide by only slotting when they want the very item genuine and that they don´t sell their copy for much more than slot or try to trade for otherwise unreachable wish list items hours or days later when other people would have given their right arm for a slot. It can certainly happen that you slot on something and then find out later that you can´t work with the color, shape or flow of the item. With your gorgeous releases, once in a blue moon. Yet when it becomes a trend, being hesitant slotting such a request is an elusive thought. On the other site, I can understand that you don´t like to quarrel with people about such things when Subeta should be all about fun! So you should definitely do whatever you´re comfortable with. It isn´t asked too much to remember not selling an item over slot price. I have a list of all my CWs, marking down if an item is public, private or has other restrictions, what slot or price was, how many batches, who designed and who released it. It takes only a second to look up an item.
Living on European schedule, I am often late to the party when it comes to slotting. All your releases are beautiful yet you know the Shard Strands are my great love. I still miss a lot of old ones or special releases ones and naturally newer ones, too, when I wasn´t online during releasing time. They hop straight to my wish list, it´s a game after all and you have to have goals. :-) I wish people would look at the whole CW business a lot more relaxed. My heart is going out to you, it´s a pity you of all people have to worry about such things, you have such a great heart! <3

Do what is least stressful for you! CWs should be something fun and stress-relieving, not something that gives you a headache. I think you've been running your shop very well, personally.
Just like what Shelbi said, many of us can follow rules. You have the right to refuse selling CWs to people who repeatedly break your ToS.
It is hard to coordinate though, especially with having to maintain a LOT of drop lists!
The slot raffles are fun, I've seen those done with very popular species in the adoptables market. I also really appreciate the unlimited 24 hour releases you made for Black Friday; you really didn't have to do that, but I'm sure it made more than just a few people happy. (Fortunately for me, the Pezzotaite Shard Strands are my favourite colour of that wig!)
Since I am in an Asian timezone, I either manage to see a release just a few minutes before the ping, or hours after. There are times I would have been able to slot for other holiday pies, but I didn't bother to claim colours that don't interest me. You are not obliged to release items to cater to those of us in European or Asian time zones, but if it's not too hard to coordinate, I think it will give people a better shot at getting a colour of the wigs they like. :)
Adding to your mountain of pings... hello c: Also sorry this is bloody long I can't control myself. Aight let me tell you I've been giving this topic a lot of thought myself. Sometimes I am so tempted to make my shit private and just fill slots within my friends/people I know well because with smaller groups they would be less likely to flip it and it just hurts my soft jelly marshmallow heart when I see my things being UFT forever when someone could be wearing them instead. Just me? Just me.
To me putting a rule in the thread is sorta just like putting a guideline, the bottom line being 'don't be a dick' i don't think that's unreasonable. But of course, I know that I am unable to police all my items and I know I can't stop people flipping or trading and tbh I'm probably not even that stringent about it. Just thinking about not letting certain people slots even if they ask for one gives me anxiety and I'm probably never gonna go that far. I mean a lot of times it's just like, what cha gonna do y'know ¯(ツ)/¯ It's just there kinda as a reminder that y'know- we think flipping is not cool and you probably shouldn't do it cause it's not good etiquette. I don't want to be judge, jury and executioner it's just that this is a petsite and why can't everyone just play nice and respect each other? My suggestion if you would have it, is to leave the rule there (Just as a reminder that hey, this isn't cool and we prefer if you not do it) but not stress too much about it. Your happiness should come first and foremost. Whether we stress out or not stress out about it I don't think is going to stop people from flipping things or trying to make a profit on them. If you happen to come across someone doing it I don't think there's anything wrong to be like 'hi dude, I'd be tickled pink if you could sell it for closer to slot price or sell it back to me since this thing just got approved yesterday ^^' And if they're like 'No' well then nothing we can do except go on our merry way and know that this does not reflect badly on you but on them and that you know, we tried.
So that's my thoughts on flipping and rules (Defined as slotting and then trading/selling for profit within like a week of release)
The problem comes when you (general you) don't want anyone to ever sell any release ever above slot price (I just want to lay out that I don't have a problem with this rule and can follow it if need be) Now this gets a little bit trickier cause there are so many releases and it's just so hard to keep track of everything. Also sometimes through trading and reselling and items changing owners stuff is likely to fall into the hands of people who are not familiar with your rules. I'm personally not opposed to people taking csc or trade offers on items that they genuinely slotted to wear but realized that they couldn't work with it anymore or that they were bored of using is as long as it's like after a reasonable period of time for someone to keep an item for me to believe that they couldn't use it (Maybe like a couple of months). Sometimes I even prefer csc selling rather than trading cause you know large amounts of csc is easier to get than certain hard to find CWs. YEP IF YOU'RE READING THIS AND HAVE AN OLDER RELEASE OF MINE AND WANTED TO SELL IT FOR CSC YOU HAVE MY BLESSING GO CRAZY BUT NOT TOO CRAZY 5K CSC IS WAY TOO MUCH. I got some of my most wanted CWs by paying absurd (okay not that absurd but higher than slot price I can assure you and do I regret it? Hell no I don't and I'd never sell them no matter what. To me it's a way better alternative than just never getting it at all cause someone only wants to trade)
Going on to slot raffles and alternative ways of slotting, I really like what you did with the slot raffles! They are an ingenious and creative way to slot people who otherwise don't really have a chance. :) But I think as some people have said before me if the raffle has like 100 other ppl in it chances of being able to slot are still pretty slim >.< And also you tend to get ppl who join the raffle just for the heck of it thinking that if so many people want it they'll be able to turn it around and sell :/ What I found useful for myself is to have time-based unlimited releases for around 24 or 48 hours. That way things can still be kept relatively limited but everyone who wants a slot can have one + no incentive for ppl to flip. It gives a chance for everyone who likes the wig to have a copy of one of the colours. (You've probably done some of these before anyway so I am probably not being very helpful)
LASTLY, THE GRAND FINALE: Friend preclaims. THANK YOU whoever brought this up cuz it has been such a fucking dilemma for me you don't even know. I know a lot of people hate being pinged along with +400 other people for the last 5 slots on an item and I understand because I get salty about it too. But at the same time I'd feel super shitty if any of my friends missed slots on something that they wanted. TY for your idea I will try this next time. Also I like spread my arms open for any other thoughts ppl have on this matter cause it sometimes seems like we're caught between a rock and a hard place between pleasing our friends and pleasing everyone else and people pleasers like me are having a rough time buddy.
TL;DR fuck what other ppl think you do you girl B) P.S I'm really sorry if I said something that sounds harsh. That was certainly not my intention and I will grovel in apology if need be >.<
I personally am not bothered by what someone does with an item they purchase from me. It all depends on the point of view you take with it I guess? I strongly believe in, as you mentioned, once someone purchases something, they paid for it, and it is theirs to do with what they like. I just learned to let go, because... what can I really do? And it just ends up making you feel, unnecessarily, bad. As, you also mentioned... It kind of sounds like you already decided for yourself on it maybe?
If you try, and it still bothers you however, maybe just stick to selling certain (things that are meaningful to you) things to friends only? People that you know you can trust to keep/stay with the rules of that item.
Also, you still never responded to me on our last ...conversation. Unless I missed it? You can message me if you like. ^__^
Anyway, hope you can come to a comfortable conclusion for this topic. It's not worth stressing over! <3
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I only had good experiences interacting with you, there's no complains AT ALL. <3
You know I was "scammed" with one of your wigs. That happened because, sadly, you can't be everywhere, and even when you do "friends only" releases this kind of stuff will happen. ALWAYS. Specially with cute and popular stuff like yours.
Lots of people know your rule of not selling for more than slot price, but there's also lots of people who sell them for more than slot price via sMail. What can we do as buyers? We could tell you "Hey, x user is trying to sell me a shard strand for 1.2k" and you will talk to that user but we will end with no item and with x user holding a grudge against us. As buyers that's a very uncomfortable situation. We should report you this kind of stuff, but we also want the item. :( I think the solution could be "Hey, this item I just released sold almost instantly. I'll try to add more batches to the next recolor" so people could get a chance to slot on pretty stuff without having to sell a kidney later to get said item.
Regarding to your questions:
Do you think I should just release things and let people do with them what they will? Kinda. Even when don't everyone follow your rules, a few persons do sell your things for slot price and slot only when they want something and we all appreciate your good intentions and your effort to keep things fair for everyone. Keep your rules, you made them for a reason. But don't stress too much trying to locate every single one of your items and how much they went for. You enjoy releasing CW's, not keeping track of every one of them. (at least you find someone selling one of your goodies for 4k, lol. Then let the hammer of justice ban those greedy asses out of your shop forever).
Including high price tag resales or use for trades? I think it's normal asking 800, 900 for one of your wigs or shoes. Asking 5k for something you paid slot price is a seriously shitty attitude. As for trading... I think trying to trade "pie for pie", and/or "oxsie for oxsie" shouldn't be so bad as "Look, I just got this Shard Strand, give me valuable privates NOW".
Do you find it valuable that I ask for people to only resell for slot or thereabouts? Absolutely. But, at the same time, if you think about how popular your items are and the small amount released it's almost utopic to expect nobody try to use them to get hard to get stuff. It sucks, it shouldn't be that way, but it is.
How do you feel about the slot raffles I did? Hmm... I honestly didn't participate in any, but it doesn't look to me like something that works. The important thing is "Did it work for you?". If it worked, keep it that way. If not, let's try something new. :)
Do you have any suggestions for me on how to improve?
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(ok first of all whatever i write is going to vastly pale in comparison to Vars' post because he is godly and i am but a lowly peasant, overtired and unusually cranky right now. his post totally hit all the various points i completely agree with, but i just wanted to add a few words myself too!)
oh my goodness Kayla threads like this one really point out to me how much you care about slotters & care about secondhand buyers in general! if it's causing you stress though, i think you should really do whatever makes you feel best (and I'm glad to see that seems to be the general consensus from posts on this thread)!
I personally (as you know!) struggle to slot on really popular releases because i'm in the UK and my timezone makes things tricky (on top of my never having a set sleeping schedule for various reasons!) - so you giving your friend group dibs is a massive help to me tbh. that said i can completely understand the problem where your private group fills 18 out of 20 slots, and then you only have 2 slots left over for your public group :x I like the idea (i can't remember who's post it was eeeek) of you just saying 'total # of slots TBD' at first and then judging interest on how many slot in your private group - always making sure to add 10-15ish open slots when you ping your public group! this also has the added effect of increasing availability in r200, hopefully resulting in fewer arseholes trying to sell them for a huuuuuge profit well above slot price.
honestly i like that you ask people not to sell for more than slot, but if tracking this is stressing you out massively, you could maybe treat it as a guideline instead of a rule? the community as a whole generally seems to be pretty aware of the bad apples who flip things immediately or only slot (or even win copies from competitions....) in order to trade, but every time someone new to CWs gets scammed i feel terrible about it : i really wish people would treat others as they want to be treated themselves! it's endlessly irritating to me that certain users only slot to attempt to trade the item, because that pushes someone who DOES actually really want the item out of the batch ;n;
oh also! I like the slot raffle idea you've done a few times (even though i never get slots that way haha, i'm massively unlucky) and also the idea of doing certain super popular colors/designs as unlimited 24hr releases! like, i'm not saying every single release should be done that way, but maybe one once a month would help ^__^
- I don't know you personally. In fact, I know very few of you personally which kinda makes me sad, but I digress. I don't usually post about this stuff, I generally save my bitching and rants for . My absolute biggest pet peeve is people who slot on shit just for trade fodder. It gets under my skin like nothing else here on Subeta. I just don't understand people's sense of entitlement when it comes to items they got LUCKY enough to slot on. "Wooo, I was on when this amazeball cw was released so I got to slot now gimmie all the CSC and hard to find WL items for it!!!!" It's ridiculous. It's also complete garbo when I, as someone who doesn't know you on a personal level, can see how much you care about this, and yet, people continue to try to profit off of YOUR releases. It's complete shite and I'm sorry you have to deal with this. It's been said several times but you do you, booboo. Personally, I'd really like to see more unlimited for 24-48° releases, and as Vars said, maybe unlimited "staple" colors along with some increased batches. I think that's a good place to start anyway =)
I wonder, if we as a community decided to adopt similar rules if that would help the situation at all? I'd really like for it to be common practice to not resell things above slot, to not slot on things for the purpose of trading the moment they hit your inventory. That would be lovely. Anyway, I've rambled on enough.
I really do hope you can find your happy medium here. As someone who releases things (not so much recently but yah), it makes me sad that any of us has to deal with this mess.
Honestly, don't let people steal your sunshine and conduct your business the way you want to. Don't conform or bend your will to meet other's wishes. Ily and I enjoy having you around even though we don't talk as much. ; u ;
I'm late to the game here and my 2cents may mean nada because frankly I haven't been in the game for that long, and honestly I do it for the fun of it, and the chance to collect pretty art.
Do what you feel is right, but know in the end, you can't control the actions of others, espically on a digital pet site.
Cut people some slack and cut yourself some slack. Some people simply make mistakes, for that one person reselling your CW for x2 profit, there someone somewhere who gave their copy to a friend, sold it for 100CSC more, or even, god forbid, pawned it. Is it really worth your sanity to follow the actions of every single user??
I don't think I participated in an auction, or slot raffle, it sounds familiar but I think it's a great idea for an item that's very popular and maybe everyone wouldn't get the chance on otherwise. The unfortunate part of getting a popular CW around here is you almost have to be present constantly. It's part of the game. But if you feel the same people are constantly around for these items and you want to give everyone a chance, the raffle is great. There will always be complainers. I cry a little when I see a small batch CW was released and it was like the one hour I wasn't paying attention, but you know what, it's part of the game.
Don't let these happy little pixels stress you out. I get anxious about things a lot, but Subby is my happy place. I use it to excape, I use it to hang out with others and I've made so many lovely friends because of the CW market. Sure I have a tiny panic attack every time I hit that submit button for a new CW, but at the end of the day, I'm happy, because I've released a little piece of art into a mostly wonderful little community!
Don't judge my typos, my cartoon fingers don't like typing on mobile.
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You should do whatever feels right and works best for you, since you're the one releasing all this stuff.
I do appreciate being able to get the releases that I miss or can't afford at the time at slot price but it's not really fair to ask you to police other people.
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You do what makes it less stressful for you and what you want to do. They are your releases that you paid for. I do like some of the suggestions I have seen so far that I will be taking into thought myself for my releases.
I do like how you started the raffle for slots, and I do like the idea of the 24H unlimited release.
But sweetie, you do what is best for you and doesn't cause you unneeded stress and problems. Love ya hon! <3
I do agree with other people here, the rules are reasonable and I have had no trouble following them, although I don't think I've ever let any of your items go that I've been lucky enough to get :D It's also been wonderful to be able to find them resold for slot price. Love the way others have followed that rule, too. But as usual all it takes is a few bad apples to ruin it for others. I have to reiterate something that caught my eye though;
First line, story of my life XD I do like seeing the raffles, but speaking for myself, and maybe some others, that last line would just make my subeta world a much happier place lol. Also, that would probably go far in terms of keeping reseller prices under control, and discourage those that just slot to turn right around and trade new items for impossible wls.
Any of you been here yet to weigh in on this? Sorry if I missed your posts! ❤
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Please contact if selling these! (and other colors) (and other colors as well) Offering csc or will open my owned list for trades!
Not like anyone cares bc I don't release many things or slot on many things buuut my very humble 2 cents: I think there's a fine line between impulse buying and slotting just to trade/profit. It's quite easy imo to see which people resell right away and which don't. Everyone has a right to their own opinion on profiting from trading or reselling a cw. This boils down to whether as the releaser you should keep an open mind and be completely non-biased and let people do this or stick by your guns and be like nope if I see you do this no slotting for you bye bye. And it's a valid question to ask because a. do you come across morally snobbish when doing so? or just taking the moral high ground? b. do you alienate customers if you create rules like these? c. how much added stress of enforcing said rule would it cause you?
I think the most important question in that is c. because at the end of the day, there's going to be someone who doesn't like you, doesn't agree with you and how you do business, and that's okay. Not everyone has to like you. I think people who value your friendship and those who like your cws enough to buy and use them will follow whatever rules you enact. The only thing is - is it worth the added stress of policing these things?
I've known of policies that were scrapped irl bc the monies involved in policing just meant they weren't worth the hassle so ...... it's what you think is right coupled with does that outweigh the stress of policing it?
also going off what people were saying re: number of slots available and pinging groups, I made the faux pas of pinging a group of 100 people for a slot of 1 and I didn't realize until after the fact that that was just a very poorly thought out shitty decision that I hope people realize I didn't think through. I think it's easy on the buyers' side to think oh wow what a shit situation, you pinged me for practically 0 slots, gee THANKS ffffs. And I can see the anger. So I'd personally avoid situations like that and with the new system just put the first batch through and ping for slot raffles? Would seem like the fairest way of dealing with very few slots and high demand. n__n;
Well, coming from someone who almost always misses a slot on your stuff, now that batches are done by 5's, I don't think it would hurt you (or anyone's resale value or the item retaining value) to up to amount released on your things. By 5 or 10, people will still swarm because the stuff you release is just that good. By doing this, you could possibly combat some of the people slotting just for trades/high resale value. Unfortunately, there are still going to be people who do it, and unless it's a habitual user, I'm not sure there's much that can be done about it.
I personally don't see the appeal of charging some ungodly amount for a CW. Like 100-200 more for something, sure. But trying to pawn stuff off at like 2k+ is just crazy greedy. I don't think there's anything wrong with trading, per se, (a lot of times it's for another color of the same item) but the high resale has always bugged me.
I like the slot raffles. It gave those of us (me lol) a chance to snag an item we would have otherwise missed no matter what. Personally, I think it would be fun/nice of you to do both: put out your usual 20 slots for whoever is lucky enough to be online when you post, then hold another 5/10 slots for raffle for everyone who was too late.
At the end of the day though, once that items paid for, whoever owns it can do whatever they like with it. I'm sure all of the rules come with good intentions, but sometimes it's best to just let things be and not stress yourself out over things you basically can't control. It sucks sometimes, but it is what it is.
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Reading some of the other posts, I am always down for limited 24 hour releases too.
I think people resell/slot to trade them off so fast because they know it's what people want. they know that since it is very limited in batches, people would be willing to pay more for missing the slot (which really sucks). I always hate seeing people doing this to you and the things you make/sell on this site. I just feel like things that are hard to get (Items that get 1-2 batches only), become an instant grab for those that know they can trade it off for other items with the same conditions.. For your sakes, maybe start to keep a closer eye on certain people that have your brand new items already in trades / selling forums. Maybe crack down on it? (Although, I can feel that being stressful for you.) I just feel if its the same few people, that it would help out a lot...
I loved the idea you did with the raffle slots. Of course, not every release I would like to see like this, but maybe every once in a while would be cool! I feel like you asking people not to resell for ungodly amounts or slot just to trade, isn't asking much at all.. But it's just something that is hard to control (unless you yourself, tell them they can't slot anymore.)
If I think of anything else, I'll add on to this or make a new post. Hope everyones ideas help you out.
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Ok I think everything's been said already but...
Do whatever is best for you/less stressful or just try not to stress about it if possible? I don't think what you're asking of people is unreasonable at all, you're a nice person, I know, even if I don't actually know you personally I still know this <3
People who buy from you should respect your rules, but at the same time there's not much you can do about it if they turn around and sell the cw for profit...Though you can ban them from slotting in the future if they do this repeatedly. It would help if people refused to buy from resellers, but I highly doubt that will happen.. Ok, this was longer than I intended, lol. Whatever you do, choose the way that's easier on you <3
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I think asking people to not resell for insane prices is perfectly fair. The trend of slotting only to resell or trade for another color is super annoying and just flat out rude. Especially for designs that are popular and consistently are having drop lists with people who wanted the actual item but missed out to those who snipe slots for items they don't even want to use themselves.
If it's stressing you out, maybe take a little break from releasing? Subeta shouldn't be this stressful.
Do whatever you think is best for you. You're the one who spent your hard-earned money on the design and recolors, and you're the one who gets to make the rules for your releases (obvs within subeta parameters but whatever you know what i mean).
& I'm gonna second 's statement: skip slotting rampant resellers. It's one thing to slot and realize you can't use the color or you end up not wanting it after you get it, but an entirely other thing to be doing it constantly....like we all know what's up bruh, you can quit pretending lolol.
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