i'm sorry if my word choice bothered you. i was ambivalent about receiving gifts; my problem was more about not being able to send return gifts in time, so i suppose i shouldn't have said i was "anxious." i'd love to know why abstaining from lumi gifting is an issue with you, since that's the crux of this whole suggestion.

in any case, i do hope some combination of darkrai and tris' suggestions is used, if possible. it's probably the best solution to the whole thing.

I fully support this. I like gifting, but my desire to give shouldn't supersede someone's desire to not be gifted. I don't need to know their reasons, but unfortunately I don't have a good way to know whether they want them or not if they cannot be blocked and they haven't previously told me. I use the URL trick because when you're sticking stuff under a lot of trees, going to each profile is tedious. I tried to be sure there was a decorated tree that popped up, but again, some folks just like decorating (and because I wasn't going to profiles, I may have missed a note that said to please not gift).

And I support this outside of Lumi too - I think being able to choose to receive no items at all should be an option. It literally hurts no one to have a feature that blocks them entirely.

I'm gonna ping you here because I'm hoping someone from staff will take a peek into this board and I know your name the best :P

I love idea of toggling even everyone, friends and anyone.

i was thinking about putting options back on my profile for morostide trick or treating, and then i remembered that options means trees during lumi.

i would still like to see any/some/none toggles for gifts.

I'm disappointed to see that nothing was implemented for Luminaire this year :/

Sadly if this sort of thing is implemented it has to be done before the trees/gift giving options are put in play. Also removing the tree doesn't do much because the URL can be found and then your tree be found that way.

So perhaps for 2018 something can be done.

I was giving out gifts today and maybe 20% of the users I went to said that they didn't want gifts. This seems to be a significant enough chunk of the userbase to warrant some sort of gift blocking mechanism. Like having a 'no tree' default and opting-in to Luminaire when you pick out a tree or having a gift 'opt-out' for those that still want to decorate a tree, but not receive any gifts. Christmas can be stressful for some people and I think they deserve the option to not participate. More importantly, I think the people who do want to participate need to a better way of knowing who doesn't want gifts so they don't accidentally stress/guilt someone or piss them off.

For the tree issue, you could always remove it from your profile(a lot of people won't gift the tree if its not easily available on the profile)

Edit: Didn't know about the URL.

But I do support this, years ago,I didn't realize about the block receiving gifts from non friends, and someone had sent me a gift annoymously to go with my avatar, I felt bad accepting it because I already had the item, just wasn't wearing it at the time.And had no way of finding out who it was.So I asked on the help forums what to do.Said person saw my post, and I guess it came off as rude to them because they got upset and blocked me.So I blocked them back.Some years I don't wanna participate in events others I do.So it would be nice to have the option.

This would be so handy, big support

I'm a little surprised actually that this has gone unnoticed since last year :/ I still would really like it to be implemented. I'm personally not against getting gifts, but I'd hate to accidentally gift someone who didn't want to be.

I definitely feel this and give it full support.

It's kind of anxiety-inducing to see my tree fill up when I haven't even gotten to gifting yet-- I'm sure I will get to it, but... you know? It'd be nice to worry less about it. People will always have reasons as to why they don't want freebies, whether it's the obligations to return the favor but being unable to, or not knowing people, or whatever, and being able to respect that privacy is A+.

Being able to turn tree stuff off vs. being able to receive Gift Center stuff, or tree stuff on but no Gift Center gifts, or just no tree or Gift Center gifts at all? I'd love to have the freedom to work with that. (And being able to display a tree for festiveness but not accepting gifts could be cool too!)

I almost always tend to use the Gift Center instead, anyways.. it feels a lot more special to me to attach messages to my gifts.

I definitely understand why people might not want gifts. I feel bad when my tree gets fullish and I haven't given anything out. I feel pressured to gift when I usually wouldn't gift very much or at all. I just feel bad getting without giving out things in return.

Holidays can be tough without the added pressure of feeling obligated to give back - this is my first Christmas without my grandpa, this will be our first gathering without him. It's going to be tough. If people are in the same boat I am, and I'm sure there are, people deserve to have the ability to duck out if they want/need to.

I'm also here to express my disappointment that nothing was implemented this year. It seems like a small thing to ask - and would relieve a lot of anxiety/stress for those that struggle at this time of year.

and - can anything possibly be put in place to have the option to not receive gifts under trees? (sorry to ping but this entire thread seems to have gone unnoticed for a long time now)

I am still incredibly waiting for this. I really love the options as well, it's something that I can see myself using at the end of the day.

While this isn't something I'd use myself, I can definitely see why some people would, so this has my full support. Having a way to toggle between friends only, no gifts at all, and all gifts would be lovely too

Until something like this gets implemented, I usually decorate my tree with a message that states "No Gifts". I don't want gifts, but that shouldn't mean I can't still decorate my tree just for the hell of it. I don't want to not have a tree; it's the one aspect of Luminaire I really enjoy.

i also make it clear that if someone does gift my tree, I will most likely not gift them back. I will say thank you obviously when trees are opened on the 25th, but I figure by not gifting back, it sends a clear message that I did not appreciate being gifted when I specifically said I did not want gifts, and that next year the person will remember to not do it again.

This has my support too, because I literally honestly thought someone was trolling when they said they didn't want gifts. I thought they meant they would like to GET gifts not not give out any themselves.

This happened in the SB so it was pretty public, but yeah, maybe something can be done. Like a [ tree=disable ]?

Anyway for my part, I ain't gifting people I've never spoken to X) But I do love gifting!

edit: I'd put a message on my sig and profile and tree if I somehow didn't want to do gifts, though. But most people using the URL directly to gift is a problem, granted.

If I want to be a hermit on here I should be able to. ;) I've removed my "invisible tree" from my profile but not before a user or two got to it (forgot again it shows up on profiles.). :| I would like to decorate it but that just ends up telling others I want gifts.

I guess it's a social expectation thing for me. I feel like this time of the year we should be happy, thankful, and generous no matter what. It feels fake and forced to me. If I want to give a gift I'll do so anytime. It shouldn't have the "it's December so give" attached behind it.

I also feel like I'm kind of begging when I have my tree decorated. Then again I feel like that with my wl. lol

I should also say, I actually don't mind gifts any other time of the year. It's just I don't like it during December. One other reason could also be since being born in December sucks for me. Birthday + christmas = one combo gift. People get so overwhelmed that if they don't just plain forget my birthday they end up grabbing whatever christmas items on the shelf to give me with no thought.

I mean I can see the pros and cons like youngexplorer, I mean I respect peoples wishes so I think this is a good idea in a sense what if some poor soul comes along who don't read profiles or even pay attention and they gift a tree that doesn't want gifting. not to sound mean but I also think that its a site event and like I try to be involved in it but I don't know that's just my opinion (from someone who doesn't really have any friend on here but like 1 and some people I been getting to know) :D but I also don't want to give gifts to people who don't want my gifts and so I try to stick to gifting people in the luminaire forum. I love the above me threads and such, but i guess i will support this only because it will help eliminate stresses from both sides hmm I just think we need more things happening in subeta so we can become a more active and close community. I hope I don't offend anyone :( :( I am so shy I never voice my opinions.

It would also be nice that if users like Metroid, who still want a tree up and no gifts, that there's text underneath the tree that states that they are not taking gifts. I try to knock off WL item when I get gifts, so knowing ahead of time that they don't want anything would be super. It would be a little disappointing if I spent sP on something and then find out that they didn't want when I tried to gift it.

I don't think most people will bite if you got them something when they didn't want anything. Either they'll stay quiet about it or say thank you anyway (that's what I would do anyway). I feel like it's not up to us to define how people want to enjoy/don't enjoy site events.