I meant galleries, sorry, and more about items that you can find them anymore in user shops. but anyway, it was just a thought "^_^

But in any case, I'm scared that many items now are going to lose value now.. I hope that I'm wrong, but I think that many users will lose interest in what they are hoarding (any kind of themes like minions/weapons etc.) and will just sell the items..

Will there be an option to be able to buy a bigger gallery (with more slots availible...say 5000 instead of 1000) for sP or CSC (though CSC seems a more likely option), or buy another gallery at the 1k limit?

I'm sorry but have I misunderstood something here? Is anything over 1,000 unique items now classed as a hoard?

Don't tell us we can't be upset and don't assume everyone having a problem has tens of thousands of unique items. Yes we've known it was coming for years but never was such a massive reduction ever mentioned.

- We know you've been saying it for years and the idea it has to be reduced isn't the problem but a maximum of 500 and 1,000 is just too big a reduction.

I dont think Ive ever had that problem, but if I did that on my big gallery...Id imagine it would take FOREVER to finish.

I agree about people bothering with galleries.

Does this mean subeta will stop creating new items? What about events like morostide which are item heavy, all those items flooding in to the site and no one with space to keep them in a pretty gallery so we'll all be trying to sell them.

I'm gutted frankly. Been working on the Super Shop and Hoarder achievements for 3/4 years. Finished Super Shop but still got a looong way to go on Hoarder. All that work? USELESS. Waste of my time. I honestly just feel like logging out and not coming back. I've been with Subeta for several years and never felt so disillusioned as I do right at this moment. I'm certainly not going to start faffing around trying to move the 40k items in my shop (17K~ unique). I just...can't be bothered. There's no point putting effort in, seems the site will find a way to undo everything. I work full time and used to enjoy coming home, doing my quests, flicking through the items, seeing what could be fragged, what needed to go into my shop for the achievement etc....

On the plus side, this will give me more time on other things as I don't see myself playing Subeta as much as I do now.

Carrie

Another thing:

What about to make a "Queue" where we put items and price them but they don't display in the shop until one or even X number of item(s) is gone? this way can be perfect and we'll be able to put our daily vends and quests items inside the shop...

I'm not the person you were responding to, but wasn't the idea of preserving a user's account (other than username/pet names) meant to be when/if they come back? It seems a bit counterproductive if those items/old shops do get deleted.

- i... i can't get the page to submit. O_o -refreshes- -lags-

What have i gotten myself into? D8

Hi, You say other people won't be able to see the old shops when the new ones go live, I assume that includes galleries. My question is will we still be able to see them? Like when you "view" your shop/gallery.

You guys seriously do not want my feedback at the moment; most of it would be unprintable. But plenty of businesses -- Comcast, Google, United HealthCare, for example -- deal with much larger databases than Subeta. There are other, better ways around this than crippling features.

There are ways of structuring data so that adding an item is an "inexpensive" operation compared to other operations; a college sophomore can implement a linked-list in their sleep. Create a hoarder-type of shop that has unlimited capacity, but limited access to operations other than adding items, and you won't have to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

I'm a little bit late to the party and my first reaction was THANK GOD I finished my hoard achievement back in February.

But then I got to thinking. I still have 15729 items in your shop in my gallery (for no purpose now, mostly just never got around to finishing dumping out all of the items to sell) and 5573 in my shop that are priced and ready to go.

I'm just wondering what limiting the shops will actually ... do? I mean, the items will still exist on the site, except in the case of people who will frag.

I'm sorry if this has already been asked and answered, I'm a little late to this party.

Ive been on Subeta for around 7 years now I think (though only actively playing for around 6 of them), just recently came back early Luminaire time). Ive had my gallery for most of that time (Id say 4 years at least). Lots of work went into buying the items from user shops (if I wasnt given them, came across them in a place like the pumpkin patch, or bought them from an event shop), finding out which category they go into, and then putting them in the spefific category that it belongs in. No biggie if its one or two items, but if theres loads of items like with the things I got for Masquerade...Damn.

Maybe because you have lots of items that need pricing? Once some things sell, it should work out again.

I AGREE!!! This is a HUGE pain in the ass for the players that were going for the hoarder achievements. i hope in this grand move and down time nothing disappears from my account! With over 20k in items in my hoard shop not that i would know but still its crap.

Holiday stuff I just hang onto over the years (hoping it gains some value because why not) - 6,848 (3,107) My shop that I actually sell things in that I haven't priced in like, months - 514 (491)

I mean, I don't even go hardcore on restocking or vending or making an effort to make a shitload of money. That's just random vending/questing prizes and it's already at limit. We would have to price our shops every day to hope that enough crap cleared out so we could try and sell the new stuff we get. I'm more worried about the rapid devaluation of items just so they'll sell and people can clear out their old hoard.

I'm not against a limit, but this limit is ridiculously low, even for testing standards. If the limit is something that is going to be on the lower end, is it at all possible to do this downsizing in stages? Like lower the shop limit to like 10k for a couple months, let people sell some crap, then lower it to it's final 5k or whatever. I know you said it's easier to go up than down, but if you go TOO far down, it seems like it may cause more problems that are unforeseen at this time.

Anybody wanna start a pool on the % of users that quit over this?

We all know how "soon" and raising limits has worked in the past. But I am an optimist at heart and I will most likely try working with the new system for a few days once it is in place and then I'll probably just not be around as much after that. I'll pop in once in a while to see if anything has been updated, but I'm guessing the site will pretty much be SOL by then. With people staying away en masse, the economy will tank -- plus the folks staying will be trying to pare down their shops. The Titanic had better odds.

On the plus side, it will be easy to bring back the account worth page since no one's will be worth anything anymore.

i'm just going to grit my teeth and deal with it re: super shop/hoarder but i would very much like an answer re: the making a living achievement carrying over or resetting because while i'm not as far into it as others, losing my progress for that one would just about kill whatever enthusiasm i have left after that news update.

I'm not so upset about the limit as I am confused as to why we have to create a new shop from the ground up instead of having the shops/galleries we already have upgrading. Knowing Subeta with its servers being perhaps the weakest in the world, I guess this makes sense. Just hope I can use the same names.