i totally support this!! one strain that hasn't been mentioned yet is Doom Bloom, when the initial stages (1 through 3) are clearly in front of the HA, but by wearing clothes you're covering the virus art, and it logically doesn't make sense to have clothes in front of the virus as it's not technically part of the 'skin' yet, just a flower growing in front of the feet then spewing digestive goop at us...

i'm also questioning why i suddenly can't see anything layered behind the base layer at my current stage (Doom Bloom stage 4)? i understand it probably has a solid white surround because the image of the figure is no longer conforming to the stock-standard base shape (to automatically cover the base), but this is limiting some really cool HA possibilities too ;-; i wanna play, but i'm restricted to only using foreground/ground layers super sad face

why tho

I see nothing wrong with this and in fact it would be rather fun and would add more ways for people to be creative! Full support!

I don't believe there is any other way to go through these stages without hiding the HA with a white background - otherwise I'd just be 2 people in the same HA

Strongly support this because I actually enjoyed being able to have my zombie skin and Zapper skin on at once. I also have Bindi Bite and it definitely always bummed me out that the layering potential will never be achieved as things are now. I feel like the whole "skins will never be layerable" thing doesn't really apply now that they're all removeable in the Wardrobe. Seems pretty weird to allow us to change skins at will but not let us take full advantage of the creative possibilities.

if wearable stages became a thing, I wouldn't mind going back and removing the white parts. It is necessary during the actual infection stages, but yeah, I wish it wasn't! Things would be much simpler if we could have the actual base disappear instead of needing to hide it.

yeah i figured the white is kinda necessary to avoid doubling up on figures in the one HA during progression. but then again, if the virus was layerable we would be able to hide the base with a full backdrop, or with something like . but i realise this makes it more of an 'opt-in' thing to hide the base at these crucial stages when they definitely do need to be hidden...

but yes, like you said bean, it would make things so much easier if the base disappeared instead!

Yes please!! Some skins honestly seem like they were /made/ to be layered, and it's always been a bit upsetting that you can't. =(

Still hoping this suggestion gets more support ^^

I'd like this to be a thing! I love my Baker Kiss strain, but one thing that's always bugged me is the normal human flesh parts. Kind of takes away from being a zombie! So I'd love to layer another pink or green strain underneath to cover it some.

If it's possible and isn't going to be a nightmare to code, sign me up.

Some of the infection stages make for hilarious and silly HAs, and people get super creative with them! I love seeing that on the forums, but once you unlock the skin you can't use them anymore. :/ I miss the silly, amazingly creative things people did with the caterkiller "poop" cocoons and the fevermore late stages.

every year i forget about this thread, and every year i'm reminded again because i'm still subscribed to it.

and i'm also still 1,000% on board with what i said... oh god was that really two years ago?! heck. i'm also going to reiterate something else from my post that i think is pretty important:

there is zero reason we should be stuck with old conventions with a new wardrobe, unless it is actually, literally impossible. and we don't know if it is yet or not. of course i'm not asking for someone to drop everything they're doing to work on this right now, and i don't think anyone else is either, but an inclination of whether turning an unlocked skin into a layer is even a thing that can be done or not would be nice and maybe we can finally put this thread to rest.

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i&;m also questioning why i suddenly can&;t see anything layered behind the base layer at my current stage (Doom Bloom stage 4)? i understand it probably has a solid white surround because the image of the figure is no longer conforming to the stock-standard base shape (to automatically cover the base), but this is limiting some really cool HA possibilities too ;-; i wanna play, but i&;m restricted to only using foreground/ground layers <em>super sad face</em>
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It would be cool if they took the time (while they're recoding the wardrobe yet again) to revamp the hex system for this kind of virus. Instead of always overlaying the virus image on the HA base, they could have a flag set for viruses that need to replace the avatar body, and then process it accordingly.

I asked on the temporary survival bug discord and Keith said maybe but it would be far in the future if it ever happened :>

I just want each stage per strain wearables please!

But layering skins is fine too.

Technically speaking, they should already be on transparent backgrounds to adhere to Subeta's own rules... they're not the little icon items for wears, they're wears and should have the same rules apply to them as all other wears.

I fully support this, and hope it can be done!

THIS!! I'm so sad I couldn't stay a pile of intestines covered in rats sobs

I fully support being able to layer skins behind the HA base~! There are soooo many wasted opportunities as well as all those partial skins that are practically un-usable.

However, wearing multiple skins at a time or being able to use strain progressions I do not. That just doesn't seen right to me?

I think this is a good idea! I'm already making some changes that let you layer base features (salon hairs in particular) and remove them from the base entirely, so I don't think it'd be too hard to implement (at the least) a skin layer specifically.

We actually do - the hexes can be before/after or replace the base itself. I'm not sure why these hexes don't follow that pattern, tbh, but can ask!

Technically speaking they are base features and not wears.

Thanks for the frenzy ping. This is a really great idea! It would be wonderful to have that flexibility on how the skins layer on the HA- especially the partial ones!