This just punishes anyone that "beats" Item Hunt, and takes away a daily game that would otherwise draw them back to the site. With an ongoing game like Subeta, dailies are meant to keep bringing people back. I don't know why you would want to take that away.

plus, 99% of people will never beat Item Hunt (especially now), and will continue to rake in sP. So again, anyone that beats the game is now being punished for it. The Swashbuckle isn't worth enough to make up for that blow.

And lastly, Item Hunt has been like this for years. If this isn't how it was "intended" to function, that ship has sailed. It is how it functions, and it's been that way for the past 8 years, and that excuse isn't really valid at this point.

:/

Bingo.

I've never finished Item Hunt and never intended to because it's one of my main ways of earning sP and has been for years. Just going to keep playing it that way. Well, once (if) restocking gets fixed, anyway.

Ahhhh, thank you so much for tweaking Reflection. I had managed to get a couple of the 4x4 prizes, but had kind of given up on getting the rest. Very happy about this :)

Yep. Not planning on finishing IH now. I'd rather just buy the Swash.

I'm sorry, but you can't just say there was a miscommunication. Look at the evidence just gave. Keith himself apparently gave this method an ok over three years ago. Are you saying that the staff member who reported Keith's ok was lying? Or that the user who told people about the answer to their ticket was lying? Or that Keith himself was lying? Just because you yourself weren't aware that people were doing this doesn't mean much of anything. This is the way things have been for years now, and other staff members have actively encouraged it.

At this point, it doesn't matter in the slightest what the original point of the Tome was. Kleenex was originally made as a cold cream remover, but everybody used it to blow their noses instead, and now that's what it is for. History has proved time and time again that original intentions don't matter nearly as much as what people actually do with a product. If the original intention for the Tome mattered that much, then this change you've made would have been made years ago when people specifically asked whether or not it was ok to use the Tome to restart Item Hunt.

If you're going to give a reason for this change, don't keep saying it's because "it was never intended to be this way" because that ship sailed quite literally years ago.

any chance the wait time on reflection could be lowered a bit? :'D

Let's be real though, who would pay 52m to lose out on money and still not be guaranteed to win/get the challenger in the process, which is apparently the intended use of the tome? Meanwhile I was totally prepared to beat Item Hunt (eventually...hopefully) and sink 52m into the damn thing because eventually I'd make it back and be back to profiting from it. Plus I'd have a Swashbuckle for my wardrobe which I'd like but it's not worth even ~100m for that, I have plenty of way cooler swords that I could live with instead of a Swashbuckle for that price :L

We've had some pretty dick awful moves played on us, but the tome not being able to be used to restart/midway start item hunt after we've beaten it and have been able to for years is really rubbing me the wrong way. I planned to one day finish Item Hunt, but no thank you now.

As for Reflection I am glad the number of turns increased, wish the wait time was lowered too.

damn, won't be able to unlock chase now x.x I wish I had seen a warning about this happening so I could have bought the tome before the changes were made read some of the earlier posts and I'm glad staff is working on a way for people to unlock chase, but I hope they make an announcement about all this in the news!

• Along with some minor stylistic changes, Item Hunt has been changed to where you can no longer use the Gilded Item Tome to restart to level 50 after beating level 100. If you’ve completed level 100, congratulations! You’ve beaten the game."

yay!! Ive beaten it twice...Boo I dont have chase as a challenger. & also Yay!!! for the ones who have never beaten this, A simple way to never have this affect you is to quit at L99

Maybe it would be worth a though to give the option to restart without getting a second Swashbuckle.... just an idea. I really miss playing Item Hunter and it would be fun if I could do it again even without a second Weapon. Maybe it could be that one gets a different price the second time.

Well, belated thanks the changes. I guess I have something to look forward to play after my exam.

i just looked at mine for item hunt it says You are on level 101 out of 100

Search results for Swashbuckle Shop Name Price Amount Buy There are none of that item in the shops!

Guess I was smart buying one, before this happened. ;)

Very glad to see a T11 non-original Godly, NOT on shop search. SO very good change!

and talk about de-valued IH prizes... Lvl 85 prize: 770 sP ( no, not 770k )

Lvl 90: 95k sP

Lvl 95: 145k sP

that shield was 10 k originally (quinten asked for it).

The IH Bomb was around 13K a couple weeks ago. I still find it crappy for those who have never beaten it or turned in a book to restart before this came into effect can now play on forever. While the others are SOL.

But Whatever.

In addition to the alternate method for unlocking Chase, can we also have an alternate method for earning Anpans, Blanoirs, and the other "low-level" Item Hunt prizes that the Recycle Beast often asks for? Item Hunt isn't just a method for earning sP, but it's also a method for earning Recycle Points. Shutting some players, but not others, out of Item Hunt gives other players an unearned advantage towards earning Recycle Beast items.

K, likely last post for me because I see this is sadly not a case where staff wants feedback as it has been decided so this is going nowhere.

Awesome. So now all those people who caused the problem, playing it over and over and over to earn multiple swashbuckles, now have a few stored away and get to watch the price skyrocket (oh look it already has) and make a huge profit for breaking a game for everyone else. And all of us who were squirreling away to be able to win the game just once to finally get that weapon and afford the tome to get back our favorite daily are just S.O.L. because you would rather change your mind based on what it was supposed to be, than actually fix the problem that was created.

I still don't understand why the repetition/blocking of real conversation about the solution. Your ship, your game, you changed your mind, yes. But, are we not worth your time to talk about what else has been said here? Is it that you guys don't think the idea for a Swashbuckle changing to an ach prize for 'defeating the whole game 1 time' so as to not be a repeat give out will work? Is it too difficult to implement? Would you rather not deal with it and this was easier? Do you feel like enough people will actually still try for level 100 that the game won't be an sP faucet? Because it seems to me that the ability to start over once would have more people trying to win it, losing more sP to win and then some dumping even more to buy the tome and others being sick of the game and never touching it again. More people trying/losing sP to win, more people being sick of the game/not using it for a daily anymore as opposed to no one wanting to beat level 100 unless they absolutely need that wearable/weapon enough to spend 100s of millions, and so most people only using it as income and rarely ever dumping more sP than they would get out.

Shoot if you add to that by making 'defeating the whole game' a tiered ach with an awesome title (Bounty Hunter?) at 5 times people are only earning the swashbuckle once but dumping sp into trying to beat level 100 5 times and buying the tome 4-5 times. Because lets face it, getting people past level 70 or so is the only way this changes from an sP faucet to an sP sink. without incentive to win the game, no one will be doing it.

Am I completely off the mark here? I'm not famous for making sense I guess, but that's just how it plays out in my head when I think about it.