just wanted to point out that this idea comes up+is denied a lot. :) Autopricing isn't the only perk of having a GA, but it is probably one of the most popular ones. I'd be very surprised if they ever offered a non-GA equivalent.

I think it would be better if we could buy a one day GA.

I'm not for it. This feature is one of the reasons why I get a GA and making it available to standard users gives users one less reason to purchase it which will probably result in less revenue for the site.

No. Just but a 1 week GA, autoprice, and you'll still get sales without autopricing for some time. A lot of people buy GAs for autopricing only.

And no to being able to buy a GA for a day too, unless it cost 1csc less than the 1 week GA. There'd be no point in getting a full GA if you could just buy one for almost nothing only when you need it.

A one day GA would still be a full GA costing CSC. You might as well say we shouldn't be able to buy a one week GA because it's a lot cheaper than a one month GA. And why should we be able to buy a one month GA at a fraction of the cost of a one year GA?

Yeah I know it should cost CSC too, but I still think it's a bad idea. Not for the users, it'd save me a lot of CSC personally, but for the site. A lot of users have a GA just for autopricing. So I could buy a GA for a day, and then wait maybe a week so I'd need to autoprice again, and buy another 1 day GA. Subeta would be getting A LOT less cash for that, and without cash there's no Subeta. 1 week, month, etc are better because they're bigger purchases, Subeta is still getting a nice sum of money for them. Getting $5 from someone a month vs getting $0,60 is a BIG difference.

With the same logic we could say we should be able to get GAs for minutes or even seconds. That way I'd spend $0,04 a month vs the normal $5. Multiply that by a lot of users, and Subeta would be in financial trouble soon.

It's really up to Keith to decide whether a one day GA account would be bad for the site. I should imagine that the bulk of CSC is involved in CWs and Delish Sets plus other items from the cash shop.

I rarely buy a one week GA because I have to drive myself to exhaustion doing quests and vending to make a profit otherwise it's not worth getting one. It's even worse now that restocking has been messed up because restocking got me extra income.

Oh, well, I can just potter along pricing a few things by hand if and when I feel like it until I get a free 3 month GA from my next Loyalty Box.

I actually think this is an excellent sP sink idea, to be honest.

It should cost 5m sP to autoprice once. If it's something you plan to do often, you'd be better off just buying a week GA, but if it's one and done then 5m isn't that bad if you have pages and pages to autoprice.

I mean the prices will be undercut by the next day, but if you make that 5m back it's worth it right?

Otherwise no support, it could be a very viable sP sink that is far more expensive than it would be if you just bought a gold account but if it was anything less than 5m it'd be a terrible idea on subeta's part since a GA = income for the site, and having to handprice 15 pages in a shop = all those pageviews.

I am not suggesting a full autopricer function. Yes, the autopricer has a setting for lowest price and average price. I am suggesting only the other Lowest: [price] option to be visible in the "Edit Items" section where you edit the prices manually. I think when people say that the GA is most often purchased for the autopricer they mean that users utilize the actual autopricer function where all items are priced at once through the system.

The "buff" like that off the main NPC shops seems like a good way to implement the feature WITHOUT disrupting the need for a full-on GA. So, I am not suggesting a full-on autoprocer to be released for standard users, merely a buff used to reveal the "Lowest prices" for manual pricing for a specified amount of time.

I don't mind if regular users could autoprice items under 100k...

I think making it so only the lowest price shows next to the item and no other feature of the autopricer being added is a good idea.

So it breaks down like this:

1) You go to your store where you would manually price an item. 2) The lowest price displays next to the price input box. 3) You manually type in the price to the box (as you do now without a GA). 4) Once you've manually priced the items (the lowest price is just a guide), you edit your shop. 5) Move on to page 2. Lather, rinse, repeat.

So the suggestion is NOT to put a full autopricer, but rather to just show the lowest price next to the item. That is it. The autopricer is still a GA only feature; simply displaying the lowest price saves a million windows open and it taking hours to price items instead of just one or two.

I really like the idea of implementing a lowest price feature. First of all, I understand why having an Autopricer for sP would be so problematic - the Lowest Price feature for sP would be helpful for restocking users, but they would still have to do it manually and would not get the full benefits of this feature.

I know that I would use it myself. It could be a good compromise and a good sP sink.

Absolutely not. I pay good hard earned money for my GA, and autopricing is a main reason I do so. If you want it that badly, save up the sP and buy a GA. You can also buy one week GAs.

Definitely don't support full on giving us regular users the lowest price option. I don't usually use the autopricer, so that feature is one of the only reasons I buy a GA.

I do however like the buff idea.

A very rare buff (explained in the news post that it will be VERY rare and easily missed so don't even whine at us to change it LOL) where the shopkeeps take pity on you, or say "hey one of our more affluent clientele (GA users) dropped off this price guide and asked us to hand it to someone... less fortunate (Saggi should be the one talking?? lol) Use it in your shop and it should make you a bit more competitive." And then the lowest prices for items in your shop under 500k (maybe maxing at 50-100 items) show up. :D Gives users who have never had a GA a taste of what they're missing, possibly enticing them to buy one, and definitely does NOT replace the usefulness of the autopricer.

I love the idea of adding in the shop search (possibly also account search) button like in the vault. Doesn't actually take away anything, just makes it so you can right click open new tab instead of copy, paste open new tab. Still tedious, but less frustrating. Absolutely no competition with autopricer.

[edit] Might I suggest altering your topic title to reflect 'lowest price' feature rather than autopricer? A few people just are not catching that you are in no way hoping for an autopricer for free or even for sale outside the GA...

Truthfully, I think releasing any sort of autopricing feature for non-GA users would be terrible. Autopricing is a huge reason that some people buy a GA, and you can only use the feature once a day. If you want to use it again, it costs CSC. You have to manually price items after you've autopriced for the day, although you can still see the lowest price for each item. I know some people just wait til they can autoprice again, but there are situations in which you sometimes need to manually price after autopricing. Like if your shop mostly sells out, or if you have an expensive item to sell. ( Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't had a GA in awhile.)

Releasing even the lowest price feature would take away from GA perks. It is more time consuming to do things manually, but there's no reason you can't. Heaven forbid you have to open a page to search for a price. It gets repetitive, sure, but no one is forcing you to continuously price pages upon pages all in one go.

GAs are meant to help fund the site as well as make some aspects more appealing and convent for GA users. Releasing an sP version of the autopricer would detract from this because there is no reason that someone can't manually price their shop. Releasing an sP autopricer would take away funds from the site. Especially if, to borrow from a previously post, it was set to something like 5 mil. It's really easy to earn that in a day or two. Plus several users have saved large amounts of currency, so an sP autopricer would quickly devolve into people squabbling over the price and how "unfair" it was that so and so was able to autoprice so much easier than they were or more times or whatever.

The GA and its perks exists for a reason. It's not that expensive to buy, and you can purchase one in user shops if you can't get one through the cash shop. Also, manually pricing isn't that bad, even with pages and pages. No one has to continuously price for hours. Just pace yourself and take breaks to do other things. There's more to Subeta than shops and their features.

Just buy a GA and get the lowest price perk.

Look, problem solved. :3

So if this happened I may never keep up a GA again. Autoprice is absolutely the major perk of GAs, so I suspect many others wouldn't either.

Hence, bad for the site, unlikely to be implemented.

The idea here is not for auto pricing to be done for standard users. It is the lowest price function that is being suggested.

The user would still have to implement all prices manually. For big shops, this would obviously take a lot of time. However, prices would be stated next to each item as they already are, and it is up to the user to do with that what they will.

Autopricing is NOT being suggested here - it's the lowest price feature. It doesn't offer the full perks of auto pricing but is something that many users would be interested in.

Thank you so very much for re-stating what a few of us have been trying to get through to the other users that just don't get the idea.

It's still a perk included with autopricing currently and I don't like the idea of just letting anyone use it. It's still incredibly useful, even if you don't outright use the autopricer necessarily, or if you've already used it, etc.