I had an issue with one of the events here on Subeta because of a certain people group I belong to. I didn't like how the views of this group were disregarded and views of another group were shoved on us. I filed a ticket about it and was basically told that there was nothing the staff could do about it--and then to voice my concerns in the suggestion forum. The thing is, and this is my point in it, I was and still am terrified to voice my thoughts in any forum. I am quite certain I would be -hated- for defending this group of people I belong to by simply suggesting that in the future controversial viewpoints not be shoved onto everyone and to let users have a choice in things rather than be locked into one way. To this day, I am still anxious about Subeta and if I can even continue to be in this community because of this. Heck, I'm too terrified to give specific examples in this post because of all the hatred towards certain things I see.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and please, no one ping me. It's in my signature, but I know people tend not to read those.

Thank you. The new guidelines are well set out and easy to read and understand. Hope this gets more people up and talking :) ( Me included, been on here for over six years and have 199 posts.)

It's surprising to read the forums are negative. I think the forum is "negative" only in some sections - like suggestions and reporting errors. I have been given some negative comments on the forums myself, but generally i was either ignored [i'm not a forum regular] or thanked for stuff... I'm grateful for all of these forms of interactions because they help me curb my own style when communicating with others. Plus everyone has bad days, so i couldn't be upset with them. Generally I read more negative comments posted throughout the various events Subeta had - see the dress-up contests, the Peeka-Boo event, and so on, and especially in the news comments regarding these events.

The guidelines are good though - hopefully will help with weeding out the occasional trolls that join the site. they are more annoying than the users who complain about various features they dislike.

Thank you for your efforts in improving our experience.

I probably don't lurk the forums enough since I notice mostly positive posts on here. I have heard (frequently) from people who "don't like subeta" that their main reason is rudeness on the forums...I just, never really personally saw it. I do only poke certain sections though so that is a good possibility.

I like how the guidelines are written, it incorporates the subeta humor while still being serious enough to know now to mess with the rules or there can be serious backlash.

I've always enjoyed how Subeta seems to welcome people from all walks of life. From what gemajgall said though I worry that maybe this isn't so much the case anymore. ;(

I mostly lurk, but I found these guidelines very cute, casual, and clear. :3

I agree with . I have only positive experiences in the Forums. The Subeta community is a closeknit one, and it feels like family. I like it.

I think the guidelines are perfect.

And, I know I shouldn't feel this way, but I don't post a lot outside of rps with my friend because I feel like everyone already has a clique and I get intimidated. I suppose because I used to try and post in the shoutbox when I first started, but got ignored more times than not because the people who already knew each other kept talking to each other. I would looove to have more than one friend on here, but... I don't know. Maybe that's just a personal thing.

I only skimmed the first three pages, so apologies if this has been brought up before.

I'm not a fan of this. Most experiences on here are 98% positive. I feel like this is hand holding at it finest, and there are times when you need to be assertive/aggressive about what is being discussed (Think site feedback. sorry, but Im not going to kiss ass to avoid getting a temp ban when the site is going to hell in a hand basket.)

And as far as "Bad experiences with users (or members of staff) can be reported through the Ticket Center." You do realize that is a whole can of worms you don't want to be opening, right? I can see the reports now.

"So and so is being mean to me because I suggested something and I didn't like the tone they took when they told me it was a bad idea and my feelings are hurt."

Just, no. I don't have a problem with there being guidelines on how to not be an asshole, but I think the way they are now is just a tad overboard. I feel like it's my first day in kindergarten, and the teacher is going over the class rules. : /

It's not a bad set-up, these new guidelines. I do think that Tris has a point in regards to the fact that there will be those few who could interpret and twist the guidelines to their advantage in making a report. That should be something that needs to be watched out for.

I like these guidelines. Short, sweet, and they get to the point pretty basically for (hopefully) everyone to understand.

Although, to be honest, so far, I haven't had a single bad experience here on the site, social or otherwise. In fact, it has been one of the best experiences I've had on a site in a while.

Though perhaps that is because I am one of the newer players around here... But still, despite that, I do believe that there are others who have met the "bad eggs" that lurk about and I hope that with these guidelines intact, some people will learn to simmer down a tad and just enjoy this site for what it is.

An escape from reality and all the drama it brings(even if it is only for a few minutes!).

I know you're still working on the posting rewards thing, but I've never been very supportive of that kind of thing. Not everyone feels a need to be part of the forums, and when you've been playing a game for three years but are still ranked as a "newbie" on the forums, it feels wrong. Rewards systems are similar, in that you might get a newbie reward after you've been playing longer than most on a site.

Sounds like a good start with the guidelines so far.

Nice set

This looks like a great start so far, and i'm soooo glad to see things like hate-speech addressed in it! All too often the "freedom of speech" card is pulled out, and it's nice to see a concrete rule about these things. Thank you!

I really like how the guidelines are posted with easy to read and straight to the point posts without being long and crazy to read.

I've really enjoyed my time here on Subeta and I keep coming here every day multiple times. I love the events and the people are nice at least the ones I have interacted with.

I LOVE your avatar, its adorable. Good job

Thank you for posting this :) It's perhaps best post I've seen, and I'm surprised how much awareness that just this could do.

I didn't even know people talked about the forums in the surveys. can't remember if there were any surveys that asking about it. Good that people brought it up though.

About the rewards, I don't think Subeta need to give them out. If what the person does makes a positive difference around them, and they have good friends and reputation because of that, then it's a priceless reward of its own.

In my opinion, the forum groups are the best thing about the site. It's not perfect, but it's a great place to talk about anything and the members rarely frown upon the subject. There are comments and smail, but it's one to one and more private.

If we try to be aware of our audience and ourselves, and have etiquette that you like from other friends and strangers, I think that would make a huge difference. Although idealistic, I think everyone should be able to talk to each other without stressing out if they need to.

They seem basic and fair. :/

I really really like these

I really really like these

I like that each guideline is short and sweet and that the listed rule itself is fairly self-explanatory too so if even you don't have time for a sentence or two, you still get it. The ideal you have is a utopia forum, something that is usually not achieved, but since you have a reward and an incredibly fair punishment that's more of an invitation to leave than like, retaliation, and because we'd all like to be in a friendly environment like that, I think you could do it.

I also love that you say new users won't know stuff - and old users might not either. Sometimes I'm that older user that either hasn't been active for a while or hasn't used one aspect of the site and then I find it and I don't know anything and there's nothing better than to be able to ask about something without meeting vitriol. It's all part of what makes Subeta great to me, and why I still play even though I'm no longer a kid (according to legal definitions; I'm always a kid).