I have LOVED this for the wardrobe items and I LOVE that it's being added for other things. BUT...I used it to determine if I had a particular item in my wardrobe (the "add to wardrobe" button wasn't displayed if you already had it in your wardrobe). Is it possible that this could be brought back? Please? :)

i like the idea jnerraw had about the buttons not showing up if we already had it in our collections/wardrobe .. i used that feature a lot of times to buy an extra one if i needed it in my wardrobe as well as for the quest :) .. **also, my beanbags (so far) never ask me about adding to collection, has it not been implemented yet or is mine not working right?

I'm actually not happy with this change. I love the fact that you can haggle and it has saved me tons of sp over time. I'm not even in the hundred millions as far as sP goes, so this is pretty irritating. :(

O M G Thank you for this. Now I can just add stuff to my collection as I purchase them and not have to worry about going into my inventory and opening 50+ items to stuff in my plushie or beanbag collections when I go on a purchasing spree xD

I always haggled...wish you could bring that back at least.

Ugh, it's nice to be able to add things when purchasing them, but curse it, seeing that button when I'm questing is a pain because I don't know if I have the item or not anymore. Before it was exciting, an item I didn't have. Now I have no clue.

Nooooo! I always haggle!

I haggled on every last item. And the only reason I didn't haggle in my first few years was because I didn't know it was actually an option. Wouldn't that be why a lot of users wouldn't use it? I'm very disappointed to see it go, it was a very helpful benefit... maybe it can be an option/add on for GAs?

Wish the button would only pop up if it's an item you don't already have.

Love this change no haggling and the 15% off appears quite fast after you buy something from a shop - absolutely love it !!!! Thanks :D

I have some mixed feelings about these updates. On one hand, it is easier to buy things now from main shops but I always used to haggle before and I do think that rarity 90 is a bit too high for just click to buy. Maybe drop it down so any rares can't just click to purchase? On adding the button to add t collections, this is great! I've been thinking for a while that this is something that I would like to see. However, I would also like if it was implemented how the wardrobe one used to be, where the button would only show if you don't have it. When questing, I tend to give the items first then go back to look at the tabs, at which point its impossible to tell anymore if I have the item already or not

as I save time questing... the haggling loss anger is abating.. :)

Well, few people haggle because most probably never knew they could do that. I've been here for over 5 years, yet found out not that many years ago... accidentally.

With the buff, we actually saves more (I think we can only haggle down to a discount of 15%) and for the second day I got the buff after the first few purchase. It is nice, but I still miss haggling as it feels "better" - like paying less because I was such a honey-tonged charmer cough instead of all sellers randomly deciding to give a discount for a few hours. I actually had to do something, you know, instead of merely clicking a link and voilá! Done.

Anyway, I don't dislike the change. This one is a surprisingly fair sP sink-ish that might end up helping those who never noticed the haggling feature or are too new to find it out yet, because of this sweet little buff. It's not much of an impact anyway.

I second this. Or, can the NPC shops be placed in the search list in order of price, as user shops are? Currently, an item in the NPC shop appears at the top of the list regardless of cost and it's an easy mistake to click on it, which is a pain considering that the price can sometimes be far more expensive in the NPC shop than in the user shops.

Also, I'm not all that impressed with the buff. A 15% drop in shop prices would have been far better. The buff doesn't kick in until a few items are bought which either means a) I am questing, have paid full price for a number of items, and by the time I get the buff, I only need to buy couple items from NPC shops, or b) I am restocking, and need to buy pointless small items until I get the buff, so as to avoid paying full price for the higher priced items I actually want to restock.

Either way, I am paying full price for at least three items every time I start questing or restocking. That might not seem like much, but it's three items I was previously getting a nice discount on by haggling. At the least, I would like to see the buff kick in after a single purchase instead.

My buff almost always comes 1 RS after the former has worn off. Keith already set that it's set extremely high for activating. Personally, I feel it has been adequate. Furthermore, don't really see why buying a few measly cheaps is really a hassle, as it's so easy to do.

Mine has never kicked in that quickly, hence my last post including a comment about wanting it to. It raises the question, why is it even randomized in the first place? What benefit does this create?

And no, it's not a major hassle, but I used the haggle feature and this is simply another area in which the new system is lacking.

I think most people will be better off now that we dont have to haggle because buying a couple of very cheap items pretty much guarantees you get a 15% off buff. You can then sit back and relax and get your items all at a lower price.

Im amazed that people are not happy about this. Its faster and saves sp too, what more could you want.
In the early days of joining the site the haggling thing really put me off, every point mattered when I was new and I felt like I had to really work at finding the lowest price which felt more like work than fun.

There is a pretty simple compromise. Keep the instant-click buy page, but add another field below..

You can rebate up to 15% of your SP back from your purchase if you enter a price between 85% to 100% of the shop's price! The Shop's price for Item XXXX is YYYY sP.

[ ZZZZ ]

[Rebate!] [Add to Collection] [Go back to previous quest page]

Even though the sP reduction with respect to the extra effort put in is insignificant when put in terms relative to the individual's sP pool, where the characteristics of such a person of such frugality would presume the effort in itself to be meaningless, there are individuals who like the act of trading in "effort" for an extra advantage, or simply because it is an extra task that is psychologically rewarding. That is the consequences of 15% off the price might or might not matter as much for such people.

This instant one click buying action certainly does increase quest activity and related activities associated with buying items which often yield me in frustration (solving captchas) and thus reverts the "laziness" to bother to do captchas to even do quest aspect activity of the site.

There are two opposing forces now... people who buy quest items sink some more sP by virtue of buying more items but if they do ONLY sP-related quests then they will actually generate more sP and increase the price level of real goods that people desire. Now I already have said this before but 96% of items on this site in the main shops are relatively speaking, worthless (in terms of profit making for time-efficiency trade-off). The 4% of goods that DO generate some profit (6,000 to 100k+ sP) were simply by virtue of people not buying them combined with artificial scarcity and high quest item turnover--but now this action causes the prices of most goods to go down even further since most items have no value besides being turned in for some quest, or collecting (which probably only a select subset of the user base does, the former being more influential).

And if profits from restocking drop, then restockers might not even restock anymore, and this part of the user base might or might not continue to play, but the excess generation of items from the increased accessibility of buying items does generate an excess of items to the extent that items become inherently worthless for most of the time of the item's cycle until quest turnover rates increase from events or whatever. This might mean more questers now I suppose. Also correlation is not causation, there are many instances of non-rare items being higher in cost than rare items simply because there is no demand for such items, in which cases I sometimes see the SubetaTeam buying up all these items. Choosing to add a haggle-only option to a 90+ rarity item still does not make any practical sense, since shop prices are not in any way correlated with the rarity of the item, and most users who are not restockers will not likely know that it is a "rare item" for the most part. Even if its rare, it might be NOT rare in user shops because nobody bothers to buy it because there is no need to do so. And if one goes by the logic, oh wow you saved 10,000 sP today... so what you have 10 million sP+, that's why we took out haggling, then you might as well do the same for rarity 90+ items.

Now if you want to make the arguement that it should be more difficult in some respects to get 90+ rarity items whose value is also high like 100,000sP to a few million sP in shops, then this is already achieved by a lack of knowledge of the rarity of the item at prima facie.. someone who knows off first-hand versus someone who searches it up will have a 2 or more second advantage in identifying and clicking the item to buy it, therefore still not justifying why we need a "haggle option" only those items, if one were to be consistent with your logic in terms of removing the haggle option altogether.

If one were to look at the time-gains from removing the captcha, it is not much, since the 5-second delay is still there. Now you are just more likely to cntrl+click the items during the questing phase and buy them that 0.2 seconds faster... over a span of 100 quest items.. is still only 20 seconds faster... of which is unlikely to be spent on any productive activity.

Now in terms of people buying items, certainly this makes it evidently a better option to buy user-priced items below NPC-based shop items assuming ONE does NOT have the buff or a 10%, 20% or 30% discount card. This does increase sP velocity, by pure virtue of people clicking on the first thing they see. The repercussions might or might not be that big. Before you had 1,500 sP removed from the system... now you have 1,450 sP transferred in between two users. Most exchanges are 1 to 1 in terms of the perspective of a user restocking their shop... that is a casual "seller" won't really restock many items to see repeat buyers on items of high sP worth. So the net effect of people having sP to buy anything of real value has not changed in retrospect (most items on the set that people want are usually a few hundred thousand to millions). No quests ask for items of many millions of sP as far as I know besides item hunt. However, this does reduce the component of people who are otherwise too lazy to quest and as such buy items to go out, spend sP, and either get more sP than they sunk (Sagittarius) or more items (non-sP quests).

Anyone else having issues with captcha code? I do not get the image. I'm really upset that I missed a couple nice items because I couldn't see the code.

I also always haggled. Sad to see it go. I always buy from main shops whenever I can.

Thanks for the heads up.