I paid 28M for and it is the most expensive of the 500 points item. The Kui Leis are not popular at all and the minions are slightly more in demand.

The hibiscus barrettes were LESS expensive in the shop and sell for more right now. Absurd.

Yeah if we go by SS prices (or close to SS prices) I'll never be able to afford anything. If a totally customizable hairstyle is 10m, why should a single color of a single (small) item cost almost 3x that?

They were selling for 7.5M a year or so after the event, so I wouldn't like to see them dip below that, tbh.

That's fair. I was thinking ~5m just pulling a number out of my ass, so I could see 7.5m

I bought most of mine between 3.5-5M when the prize shops were just released.

I mean, Team Pirate was the coolest, but Islanders had a better prize shop

Why should the prices be so close to right after the items were released? that's completely discounting things like increase in active players and a rather high inflation rate (the curbing of which is the whole reason to have this).

Because Kui Leis from the same event, which are 150 pts more each are selling for 4M-10M each right now.

Why should item A, who sold for less than item B, be brought back to be twice as expensive as B

To me, it just means that that particular item is not one that is going to be sold in the sP shop. It makes more sense to normalize for a middle price rather than special cases. Also consider that certain items even at the same prize shop price could have been bought from the shop in greatly varying quantities. This necessarily means that the prices will vary now. The best way to do it would be to base it not only on the prize shop price but also the amount that exist on site now and the current prices of items. This of course means that not all items will actually sell in the shop since some will be available for cheaper form user shops. But the end goal of the idea isn't to reduce the price on all of the pries, it's to make sure that a reasonable quantity are available on the market and of course to sink some sP out of the system.

That said, I'm mostly pinging because many of these items were HUstled a while back fro a measly 250 csc a pop, which damaged the prices of many of the items as we can all see. That alone discounted a lot of work people put in, and really put a dent in user's ability to sell anything because at any given moment something expensive could have been hustled-- why the hell buy it? I actually put off buying for a damn long time because of the Hustler, until I was damn sure he wasn't going to start selling non-cash shop items again r___r; Definitely don't want to see the shop go that route, as I feel the point of these would be to get more into the system and not make people feel like chumps for buying these items for a higher cost.

I wouldn't be upset at people having a chance at what I bought for an expensive fee.

If I had to be upset at every time I paid a fortune for something and it ended up being deflated, well, I'd spend my whole time on Subeta screaming.

Hahaha I know! If that wasn't the case I never would have paid 5k csc for ^ that book xD! However, at the TIME the Hustler was still doing that I wasn't willing to pay more than about 10m for anything. It wasThe hustler stocking all that stuff was bittersweet, but I think that did more damage than good in the end so I'm glad he's been changed.

No doubt there! I was lucky and got a book or two from those shops for 250 csc but I ended up paying 5k csc (like 150m at the time) for that ^ last book.

I'd be upset if the book ended up costing like 500k, much like other expensive ass books I paid a lot for (thanks holiday shop!), but if it's like 50-75m then I'm okay with that. It's still less than I paid but this wasn't being considered then so whatcha-gonna-do, but it's not so cheap that I'd feel jaded and unwilling to ever spend that kinda bank on an expensive item.

Which I think is the whole point of these costing more-- making things available but not making it so cheap that people are no longer willing to buy high ticket items in fear of basically wasting their money when they should have just waited.

I hate the csc hustler >.< He gets my daily business at his other shop though XD. I had no idea any of that stuff was ever sold their, that'd make a difference to.

Items not holding value sucks, and it's not very productive for anything. Idk about you but if I bought gas at $3.00/gallon in the morning and then it was $1.00/gallon on my way home, I'd be rather pissed. It's a virtual website but the same applies.

That sounds perfect.

I paid 28M for the White Velvet Whiskey and like another 20M for Turquoise and they sell for 300K in the Alegarten shop now? And seeing people saying it was still too expensive pissed me off to no end.

I agree they shouldn't be too cheap. Or, too expensive. Because no matter how much you love your pixel doll avatar, I don't know anyone willing to shell 75M/each for the shell ankle wraps.

Yup, I paid about 15-20m a pop for both the Wizard Drinking Games and the Kumos Year Planner so I most definitely know them feels :P

Yeah those ankle wrap though! I definitely feel like the amount of an item onsite already, original point cost, and... the, uh, potential for purchase should be considered as well as y'know the item use. But at a bare minimum I wouldn't want to see it less than 50k a point for consumables, and 100k a point for dem wears and weapons. I'd be fine with 100k a point for everything, but the only way people might pick up extras to resell later is if the prices are lower/they can remove them and sell them (which we can't do with consumables).

But 50k a point x 1,500 = 75m for the before mentioned book, which I feel is a good bottom dollar. After all I paid 5k for it, which was about 150m at the time-- so that's about half.

I'm glad to see that definitely isn't planning to make them 300k each, otherwise I'd probably never buy another loving thing over 10m again |D

Oh man he had fun! He stocked MSS and P-Cutlass too, and several of the pirate shop books/items and many of the hair flower things from the islander shop... and One of the Hustlers campy weapons (the dark staff that's so bad I'm not even going to bother looking up the name haha) (the one with the skull on it).

He just about hustled everything but the kitchen sink until staff finally put him in his place xDD

At this point, I don't think anything is worth rereleasing, with the exception of the books and plushies.

Especially at 100K per point, most of the islander wearables are an awful ripoff at that ratio. I think the only one that would be a good deal are the Grass Wraps and Hibiscus. And, I can deal with these to never be released again, haha.

The tribal buds are a ripoff, the kui leis are a ripoff and the shell ankle wraps are such a ripoff I am laughing.

Pirate side is no better, except for books and plushies.

Just.

750M Siren Dagger.

I PAID 1B SP FOR THIS UGLY THING Why? Because I was looking for like 6 months and nobody wanted to sell it to me. and it was the last minion I needed so I didn't really care what I had to pay to complete my collection. I think these items need to be RR'ed somehow or newer users given a chance to earn the points themselves because not everyone can afford to just throw 1B at an ugly minion. Would I be upset if it was RR'ed and became worthless? Not at all, it's happened to me tons of times and if I cared I would have rage quit the site by now - I paid 300m for which is now pretty much worthless, 200m sP + 1k csc + a victorian bolero CW for which is also now worthless (but that benefited me because I also needed the beanbag :P) But I'm not really someone who hoards items to increase in value and make profit off of peoples misery at not being able to complete their collections, I just like collecting things and I know how annoying it is to be THIS CLOSE to completion but you can't because the item is IMPOSSIBLE to find!

I would be mad for you lol.

I don't like to be evil and not see people complete their collections, but I do think they should be pretty freakin hard to complete. Obviously not to the point where it costs a lot more (as in 1b, though ~300m seems fine to me) for just one item simply because no one has them and not because it has any intrinsic value. I also think that effort should be made to balance supply and value so that collections aren't losing value over time. I think by all means it should be profitable to sell off an entire complete collection if you paid what was fair market value at the time you bought them. Item value should go up with time, and not solely due to a decreasing value of sP :P

So I wonder if this is ACTUALLY going to happen, or if it'll just happen soon /cynicism

What annoyed me the most trying to find the monkey is that there are some items that cost way more points, like 5k more! annabelles dirk for example - that only cost 20m on the shop search xD I don't think things should be super cheap either (though subeta seems to go from one extreme to another...) and I do think that people should have to work for their collections, the problem with minions though is that there is a TON of them that are not even buyable on the shop search already. The monkey for example only has 6 in galleries even....now with a minion collection coming out, I'm sure hundreds of people will be wanting to complete their collection but with no real way too when the demand is a million times the supply...

I would argue strongly that I don't think hundreds of people should be able to complete a collection, even if there was like 5x as many active daily users that'd be a ton too many. We need some stupid expensive items that have value because they're hard to get and there's not many of them. I think balance is super important like you said instead of bouncing between extremes.

Anabellas dirk, siren dagger and all those non god weapons are cheap because they were released as an sp sink during the councilor cruise iirc. Clearly there wasn't a good enough limit on quantity and the price wasn't high enough though >.< Hopefully mistakes are learned from cough staff cough