I'm just going to post this here as I did in the news post:

Perhaps all the old skins could be added into the Loyalty Box as one of the options, you would get to pick one skin out of it. (Kind of like how the potions work, where you can pick one for your pet) That would be away to get the older zapper/zombie skins out there without flooding the market with them.

I really like this change.

this is absolutely WONDERFUL! Is there any chance the Tanning Salon be updated soon, so I can edit my human base color (I'm all gray up atm, and would like to be a normal color for now).

I don't really have any complaints about this other than the fact that for years all I've heard is "zombies must suffer, zombies must have their zombie skin, zombies get no noses blah blah blah" and so I've spent millions on cover-up items and then... This is literally the last thing I expected to happen @ _ @

Well Okay... I'll mourn the loss of my sP but it's worth knowing that we can stash away zapper skins in the future and use any of the ones we get.

Oh man this is an AWESOME change. I can't wait to start collecting skins!

Skin-Collecting, now we all sound like Hannibal Lecter something.

Anyway lol, I think it's going to be great being able to switch between what we want. I'm still on the boat that those of us who kept our zombie skins should get them as a perk. We kept them for a reason, they're special and should be treated as such.

Zapper skins are entirely different since anyone can get those at any time during Morostide and I do plan on collecting as many of those as I can, just for fun. I'm not too peeved about buying the coverup items I have over the years, I figure they're just one step closer to a filled wardrobe and it'll still keep people guessing if we're using a coverup or not, which was the whole point in the first place lol.

Yay!! I can have normal skin!!

How do you change your facial features in the Beta Wardrobe though? My "Base" menu is greyed out.

Going to re-post this here:

Maybe, for those that are miffed about "curing" their zombie-ness, like said about the Loyalty Box I'm adding on to that, the skins from whatever year you started Subeta til now could be in the Loyalty Box.

If you started in 2009, before/during Survival, you can get a skin from 2009-present, but only 1 per year. For example, me, I'm a 2012 zombie. So the only choices I'd have are the ones from 2012-present. I started Subeta in 2011, but that was after Survival had ended for the year, so I didn't get to be a zombie til next year, in 2012.

So, depending on what year and when you started Subeta during the year should determine what zombie skins you could get in the Loyalty Box. I know there weren't viruses for 2013 and this year we just had the "temporary" vials, but this is the only way I can see this being fair. There are zombie skins from older years that I think are amazing, but that doesn't mean I should get them and use whenever I want.

It seems that simply trying on one of your skins automagically makes your HA wear it even without having saved the HA that way.

It's not retroactive and it apparently causes issues with my Nightmare skin and most of the background items so, to be honest, I'm not impressed too much. The idea of new skins for achievements doesn't give me goosebumps either but hey, others will probably die happy now...whatever.

But that doesn't really make sense as loyalty boxes are tied to account age, not year the account was created. There's a subtle but significant difference. What 'year' would come out with the new achievement?

An account that is turns 2 years today would theoretically receive the 2012 box, correct? What happens when, fast forward to 11th November 2015, a different account turns 2 years? They should get the 2013 box, correct? But... the achievement would be the for the 2012 box. It doesn't really measure up as time progresses. Also, 'Loyalty Box' is just one item and it'd mean some retooling on that end. I don't really think it's a practical solution.

I dunno. I don't get why people are expecting/hoping this to be retroactive when it's obvious the site hasn't held onto those snapshots and there's no way to determine who had what. I've been playing since the start of the pandemics and have had multiple strains, but the site obviously hasn't tracked that, and I've made a consciencious decision to cure every time. I don't feel entitled to any of the previous skins. I was never forced to cure, I made the decision and these are the consequences; the reality is, otherwise, we would never have seen these skins again regardless. What's changed? Why should we suddenly have them back? It's bizarre.

Style file here I come!!! Lol thank you for this change!

-just now going through the news post comments- xD

I really like this sort of idea, where the LB would allow you to unlock bonuses that you otherwise wouldn't have access to! I'm not sure it's feasible for zombie skins, although maybe it could be, based on your account's age.

But then again, I'm the one who doesn't open LBs because, while the options are great in worth, they're purchasable. Literally the only option that is priceless is the +1 pet slot that goes on top of purchasable slots. Since I'm not into pets at the moment... I guess I sit on them in case I ever decide I need more pets?

I 100% vote for more priceless, "account upgrade bonus" on LBs, whatever nature they would be ^_^ I love the same idea for achievements as well, especially hard to obtain ones. Working on account upgrades is the best thing ever, for example "unlocking" site areas (Skitters/the Underground, Omen Islands and the Blue Building) were my very first goals as a newbie.

Besides this, I get the frustration from those who have just cured, since this is a major change. I just... I don't know. I sure understand that this was unexpected, but the complaints about it not being "retroactive" / people having spent lots of sP to cover up are making me sad. :/ This and movable bases were the best changes to ever happen.

I know we were all led to believe we wouldn't ever see a "normal" human base again, but it was still our choice to either put up with it or to let it go...

I know I haven't ever cured because I could see the regret coming. I'm truly sorry for the people who did let their skins go and wish they hadn't, for any reason, but at least this means we'll all be able to enjoy multiple skin effects now! This means nobody has to suffer to be able to enjoy their wardrobes anymore, this means the artists can have full creative freedom to draw new things for us c: This means achievements just became a LOT more enticing, too!

The "old" skins are more like... legacy skins. I'm sure hoping to see the skin area become as varied as the hair salon :D

It's sad that changes aren't retroactive, but that's also the case for everything else. Just like I became a zombie when my account was a little over 3 months, it has turned 4 years recently, and still I can't/won't ever be a longtime zombie... so many things fall out of reach, it unfortunately happens.

I guess I just wish we wouldn't cry over what's lost because there's so much great potential ahead (:

hmmm with the bases being moveable, does this mean background items no longer need to have the HA base cutout? =D crosses fingers

In the new wardrobe, go to skins and just select "none" and that should do it. :) It's the first option and it doesn't have a preview image above it, so it's easy to miss.

because I don't want to edit the previous post as its already big

Going off of the complications mentioned for the actual old zombie skins and the original idea, maybe it would be interesting to have a small set (maybe like 3?) of brand new (exclusive?) skins unlockable via LBs (:

Re-explaining because I don't know if I'm just being confusing or what.

So I open my 4th year loyalty box and inside is a "survival skin" option. Since I'm a 2012 Zombie I can get any of these as a skin: Pinkie Patch, Blistered Hearts, Dolly Dreadful, Lobster Face, Crack Head, The Baker's Kiss

Someone from 2009(before or when Survival started) can get zombie viruses starting with Virus all the way up to the Baker's Kiss.

Now, if it needs to be tweaked to where if you were someone that started before or on Survival 2009 and the only options you can get are: Virus, Love Bug, Boobitis, and Foot Rash because that's the year you had your first Survival, then that's fine too. It doesn't matter to me how it's handled. I really hope I'm making a lick of sense. I feel like I'm being confusing.

[edit]Of course, if it's not possible, that's fine. It's not going to matter to me as I have both my zombie and zapper skin.