Is it safe now to move our items without anything getting lost?

When the first deadline came out, I ordered my vault into categories and then moved my 3 galleries. I also started shifting items from my shop into the new ones and vault or recycled for quite some time (very error prone with lots of tickets).

When I was about to move my (second biggest on site) shop with the tool, a ton of users had to complain about losing items in the process. I myself had had issues with moving large stacks (thousands, esp. currencies) or even just 1 (expensive) piece. So I refrained from doing so, have been using items for questing etc. all along and also continuously moving a few to vault by hand day by day, one by one. Alas the "move all" feature in account search has never worked, either. I'd have progressed further over the years, had it.

There never was an announcement, it was safe again to use the tool. And not touched upon when the thread moved to the next page.

Has the problem been fixed? IS IT SAFE NOW TO TRANSFER OUR LEGACY SHOPS?

Or are you going to do it for us with the huge shops - step by step, page by page? Also an idea, that was mentioned back then.

Yeah, I saw someone mention galleries from accounts of deceased users being deleted. Is there a way for us, the user base, to "preserve" these galleries since staff can't???

Yeah, I saw someone mention galleries from accounts of deceased users being deleted. Is there a way for us, the user base, to "preserve" these galleries since staff can't??? Allow me to be cold and pragmatic for a second, probably get blocked and warned over this: they're still unfortunately pixels. Yes, we may have owned/do own the account but in a fashion, we own nothing on them. Our money went to supporting the site, we've nothing solid for our purchases.

Now to be warm: I get your point, I just don't see how it would be done from a coding standpoint despite I would want it if at all possible.

I don't understand what qualifies for a legacy shop? I've been playing for over 17 years and all of my shops were created the first year I played yet none of them have the ! symbol next to them and I don't remember converting them to new ones?

Edit: Looking through the tread I defiantly don't have that symbol so I'm going to assume I'm good. If not it's not like I can't just rebuy everything that was in my galleries.

subeta is the only place where the staff gives you 6 years to get something done and people still complain when the consequences of not doing it are instilled i love it here

This issue doesn't involve me but can staff really be blamed for not giving enough of a heads up when they already did? Sounds like user responsibility at that point because it's been a long time since this was first announced.

lol @ this whole thread

The fact you're giving another 3 months is really generous. Maybe people will put the time to good use.

And I thought I was being cold.

I am unable to select my Legacy Shops on https://subeta.net/legacy_shops_migrate.php to send all items to my vault

this lol

On one hand, six years is a lot... On the other hand, who hasn't found a doodle they've drawn "just a few months ago... what, it's labeled 5 years ago?!"

I need assurance the tool is safe to use now.

So far what I see is two sides:

1.1) There was plenty of time for migration given. 1.2) If everything is migrated automatically and something gets lost, the staff will be blamed. 1.3) If everyone's everything is migrated at once, the servers will be far too busy to do anything else, including normal gameplay. 1.4) There must be a line in the sand somewhere as to when to finalise the migration.

and

2.1) Users aren't sure they can trust the migration system not to lose something and can't manually check the "before" and "after" lists of items for any reassurance whatsoever. 2.2) Moving tens of thousands of items in batches of 50/100/250 (these are some of the common Subetan size limits, I don't have a legacy shop and don't know what the real limits are) is a chore and a half. 2.3) Some people's "virtual memorials" just can't be migrated by their owners due to lack thereof. 2.4) There would be some major "sticker shock" if somebody comes in to find their store/gallery with all the 6+-year-old rare items gone and such an "oldie" probably won't stick around.

Can't suggest much for the current users with 2.1 and 2.2 problems, but have a compromise between the current "purging" strategy and the potential 2.3 and 2.4 people.

I think that users who, for one reason or the other, haven't come back in six years but will after June are going to be less annoyed if they lost some things than if they lost everything. So, maybe if June is the cut-off, everything that's not manually transferred by then can be queued up to auto-transfer, possible losses be damned, and done slowly over... however much time it'd take?

That seems like it would somewhat balance the two camps. Legacy shops will finally be really done with, (most) items won't be missing, hiatus-ed and deceased users won't be (overly) disadvantaged, servers will have something to do during the long summer nights instead of knitting WiFi waves into pom-pom hats... Win-win?

Oh, and, by the way. An answer to "how could anybody not migrate still?!" Some people just can't find their way around the site as well as the others and don't know half of its features. If they've missed something in the news in those few months when it was "all the rage", they'd not even know about its existence for most of the "six years they were given to migrate" ;)

Ha, no worries! I had a feeling it wasn't possible.

It looks like I transferred around 4.5k items. Looking at the Hoarder! Achievement it says I was at 9,007 / 10,000. I've been gone for around 6 years, I might have moved stuff around, but I really don't know. Some great old stuff in my vault so I can't be too upset.

Each time I made a ticket regarding lost items, the admin double checked on my account history, if said items and amount really were moved and how many made it to the destination and how many were lost in the process.

So somebody would have to make a note of how many items are in my shop in total before application of the tool, and how many get moved effectively. If something poofs, then check, how much of what and replace, since I can't even revise nor reclaim.

Thanks for all your diplomatic sweettalk, rofl. But I really don't need that. Especially not, when you're just trying to shroud a "No".

The quintessence of my message, which you seem to have overlooked, was: I won't be able to reclaim items/file tickets, because it is impossible to take stock of the old shop.

Before we lost access to the shop itself I invested a lot of time and did so when moving items by hand, which was incredibly error prone, which again hindered progression and fulfillment of the task.

That was not my fault. I tried my best under the given situation. So I rely on the site's help of stock taking. First it would be just to take down the number of total items in the shop (and vault) before starting the tool, and then check the total amount of items moved respectively then in the vault. That can't be so hard. Maybe we are lucky anyway, and it works wonderfully with nothing lost...

And I will definitely wait and only try to move, when there is no event going on, because that will for sure pose too much strain on the site - as we all know from years long dreadful experience.

You do realise you're talking to an actual person, right, who is not out to ruin your day