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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
Paula
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Jideus

Imagine the amount of pets with made-up names or misspelled names in Adopt R Us after this new thing is released...

Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
The Royal
demon
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666

^ hoping it won't be released, i'm in with the no unique pet group personally. i understand why it'd be a good idea given the playerbase, i'm just protective over names i've had to fight for haha ;;

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
Johnny_673
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Akaw

Really hope this doesn't happen, but if it becomes a thing I expect a free name change for each pet

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
The Gourmand
Zyte
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Sorry, but I don't support this for many reasons already discussed on the other topic.

To add in my own personal opinion, names are always the last thing I work on when it comes to characters, because I enjoy the hunt for a good one. There are still tons and tons of amazing names available on subeta, and nothing really solidifies a fun new character for me like hunting down a name that has just that right feel and spark to it. Not to mention all the other fun character ideas I get looking for that name and seeing what else is still readily available.

Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
Aquarius
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Alexander

Not getting deeply involved - do not support for the reasons mentioned and everything bean said.

That being said, I like the compromise idea with the display names.

Another couple of ideas since we're throwing ones out:

-The ability to trade/sell/whatever pets - most sites (that I know, at least) allow trading/selling of pets. Since we're talking about what most others sites allow/disallow, I think this is something worth mentioning. This could be a way for people to get names and such that they want.

-A preferences option for each user to allow/disallow additional creation of their names. Something like 'Unique Names - Yes or No'. Those that want to can and those that want to, don't have to. Even if someone doesn't want to participate in non-unique names, there is always the chance the pet can be adopted/thrown into the pound/cleared and the new owner will have their own preference.

And as a general note, if this does become a thing, I agree with the idea that you have to pay to get the same name. Reason being is that I've seen this happen on several sites and there is very little change in revenue. It's MUCH cheaper to just change the color (20 million sP) versus changing a name ($20). There might be some that pay to change the name (say, if an ID is sentimental) but otherwise, most just throw the pets in the pound and create new ones. :( So if you're talking revenue for the site, I think a $5 - $10 item from the Cash Shop might be in order.

Don't really have anything else to add.

Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
PUNK
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Equinox

Please no. I don't like this idea at all. Same reasons as everyone else has already given.

I seriously hope this is never implemented -_-

Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
Flying Ace
Ciannwn
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Gwyn ap Nudd

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Imagine the amount of pets with made-up names or misspelled names in Adopt R Us after this new thing is released...

This is assuming that people who own pets with compromise names have never bothered to do anything with them. I don't think anyone would abandon a battle pet which has reached a reasonable tier and has a well paid job.

If the site did change to an ID system it would be nice if everyone was given a certain number of free name changes.

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
Mackenzi
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Mackenzi

I’d be fine with it I think! I don’t think it would be so drastic a change.

Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
Orange
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I don&;t really support this, but I don&;t have any logical reason for that. Just remembering pet name clearings back before they were an automated thing. I fought the lag and the clearings not going through at the right time and other players for those names, dammit! It&;s dumb and selfish, but it does feel like losing something.</p>
<p>What if you could change a pet&;s display name? So the url would always say the pet&;s original name, but when you visited the pet&;s page, you could have the name show as whatever you wanted. Or you have the pet&;s real name under it? Like :</p>
<p>Totalitarian the Common Kumos
(aka kumos123456)</p>
<p>The aka wouldn&;t show up on the original Totalitarian&;s page.

This is a really good compromise and I'm 100% on board with this idea.

Otherwise, no; I don't like the idea of non-unique names. I've spent years waiting for particular names to clear and having that suddenly amount to nothing doesn't sit well with me.

Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
Cass
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Jasper

I'll mostly just repost what I stated in the other topic. c:

I'd honestly be in support of making pet names not unique. I've spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars on my pets in my time here, even doing stupid things like swapping adopted names onto good IDs and then moving them around a few months later... I've used my vacation days to attend name clearings, I've spent hours working on applications for pet names I like. I have a lot invested in my pets. A lot of time, love, and terrible anxiety. |D
And you know...it shouldn't be like that. I'm honestly pretty exhausted by the whole thing after almost 13 years.

And now we're at a point where users can have 100 pets. There comes a point where GOOD unique names just start to run out when every active pet enthusiast can have that many. I feel like if people could have whatever name they wanted, it would really catapult the pet community to new heights. If people could have that OC or fanpet name they love so much, they might be inspired to make profiles, get amazing custom overlays to make their pet unique from others, etc. I dunno, at this point I feel like the old system is just...archaic? How many sites other than Neopets actually adhere to the single-name system these days? It's incredibly limiting.

From what I can tell, most people who are against non-unique pet names are already in a position of privilege - and this is coming from someone who has 90+ amazing names and probably wouldn't change that many of them. We've been on the site for ages and we have the time, knowledge, and resources to have obtained lots of great names. But for a new user just joining the site, trying to find a name for your pet would be like Neopets all over again. And with such a small and well-established pet community here, having a pet named something oO_Darkness_Oo would be rather alienating.

And as awful as it is, people who adopt OUT good names only give them to established pet community members 90% of the time - to people who already have a ton of great names. I'm honestly just as guilty of this as anyone, I'll be honest. x:

Buuut yeah, I don't really have a horse in this race, so to speak - I'm pretty happy with what I've got, because I've been around long enough to have that luxury. I'm just trying to think of new users and the site's longevity here. The pet community is getting pretty stagnant and I'd like to see something breathe new life into it. And the staff have to prioritize aspects of the site that can keep them afloat financially, so... why not make pets more profitable? -shrug- I know lots of people would dump a crapload of money into their pets if they could have whatever name they wanted, especially if they have pets that are already trained and have books read to them/etc and can now give that pet the dream name they've always wanted.

I saw some people complain on another topic that if names were non-unique, people would dump a lot of their pets in the pound... and I think that would honestly be great?? The pound is literally empty all the time now. It used to be really fun to look around in there (and there were hundreds of pets to look at), and these days you're lucky to even see a full page. Usually it's one or two pets, or none at all. For a newer user, browsing the pound and finding an Angelic Montre named Uriel would be AMAZING.

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
The Royal
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<p>From what I can tell, most people who are against non-unique pet names are already in a position of privilege - and this is coming from someone who has 90+ amazing names and probably wouldn&;t change that many of them. We&;ve been on the site for ages and we have the time, knowledge, and resources to have obtained lots of great names. But for a new user just joining the site, trying to find a name for your pet would be like Neopets all over again. And with such a small and well-established pet community here, having a pet named something oO_Darkness_Oo would be rather alienating.</p>
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as a person who's been on this site for 11 years i have only made 1 actual pet, all my other pets have been pound finds! just wanted to show that privilege isn't a factor! (not in my case, anyway)

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
HADES
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Cosmic

This would really just be switching from one privilege to another, really. Many of those in support are also privileged by IDs already, so I don't see that supporting the argument of switching to IDs instead of names.

I worked hard to get the names i have, stalking for years and doing apps for them much like everyone else. I think it is a bit late in the game to switch all of this to considering all of the money people also put into these names. Basically like a slap in the face. ¯(ツ)

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
Cass
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Jasper

You've been on the site for 11 years and had the chance to locate and obtain good pets during that time. I'm not using the word in the more social justice sense. A new user is very unlikely to be able to find interesting pets like you have, considering the pound is usually empty these days.

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
HADES
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Cosmic

The same thing can be said about those who have had years to collect IDs over time they have been active. Those also tend to be much older users. If names became irrelevant, people would go to collecting IDs for extra pet status. I don't think it's a good argument to use those who have bad years to collect names when those of you who collect IDs have done the same.

If this was impliment I would expect there be a way for those who put a lot of money into name changes, ext to be reimbursed. I would also hope there would be a way to level the playing field with IDs such as scrambling them up ext. I know if this happened, I would switch to IDs most likely.

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
The Royal
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666

I actually just picked up the pet name "moderate" from the pound just yesterday, so it really isn't a matter of time spent on site.. invalid was this year. i've only recently filled my pet slots, for years and years and yeeeears i only had 3 pets!!

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
Frankenstein
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Felix

i want to know why having a pet name or ID should be any sort of a privilege at all tbqh please tell me why you feel better than someone else for having either of these things, seriously, i'm all ears if anyone can give me a solid reason why having a pet of any sort on a pet site makes you privileged and better than someone else

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
The Gourmand
Zyte
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You&;ve been on the site for 11 years and had the chance to locate and obtain good pets during that time. I&;m not using the word in the more social justice sense. A new user is very unlikely to be able to find interesting pets like you have, considering the pound is usually empty these days.

I'm sorry, but I really, really have to disagree with this. Yes right at this moment the pound is empty. But that is not the case at all a good amount of the time. I pound surf constantly, and I see tons of great names in there constantly. Heck, just a couple days ago I picked up a name that my brain is already pickling tons of ideas on that I very likely wouldn't have considered had I not seen it in the pound and been inspired.

Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
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Unkindled

I support the idea of aliases/nicknames that bean suggested. I don’t support the implementation of non-unique names for the reasons stated above.

There’s also the fact that I and a lot of other people did a lot of name swaps back when you had to change one name to a throwaway, then change that name to the other name, then change that name to the other. That was 3 name changes, around 1500 CSC compared to the 750 now.

Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
Cass
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Jasper

IDs don't contribute to your creativity in any way. Yes, I imagine a few people will start collecting them when they didn't care before, but I find that very unlikely at 500csc per pet. Especially starting over completely with 50+ slots to fill.

If someone is on Subeta solely to try and hold some kind of status over other people, and their pet names being non-unique means they need to find some other way to be special.. I'm really sorry for them? I will never go to someone's profile and look at their low-ID, uncolored pets with no profile or TC and think "wow I'm so jealous, that user has such great pets." Users with cool stories and profiles will always be the people I admire the most. And if two users both have pets named Jude and do vastly different things with them, and they're both really interesting characters.. I don't see the harm in that?

I have the pet Draco and I know lots of users (two being friends of mine!) who would LOVE to have it for a HP fanpet. And I'd honestly give it to them if.. I didn't have to choose between so many people who all love Draco. |D I like my Draco, the sky pirate, but I know a lot of other people would cherish that name and put a lot of time and effort into it too.

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Nov 24, 2018 7 years ago
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Thot

I'm going to just copy/paste then add onto my post from the other thread

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I don&;t think a pet should be determined &quot;valuable&quot; or whatever by its unique name but by what the owner does with it. You might have Joe the bloodred kumos with a full-blown profile and art and TC, while your friend has Joe the chibi legeica with maxed out battle stats and hundreds of books read. They&;re given meaning by what their owner chooses to do with them, not the text under their image that happens to be a specific combination of letters that no one else can have. And that&;s not to say people should be forced to do something with their pets either, they&;re just examples of what some users do. You want to own Joe the sheeta because you want some place to post your goat memes, go for it. That makes this Joe your Joe. Your goat meme Joe goat. The Greatest Of All Time Joe.</p>
<p>Of course I love owning pretty cool names like I do now.. But I also put myself through hell every time a clearing happens and I&;m trying for a name. I don&;t want to worry myself silly about names. I don&;t want to be setting alarms so I can face anxiety and be let down a majority of the time. I should not have to stress over a game that&;s considered &quot;casual&quot; in the big picture, just because I want to name my pets accordingly. (Maybe I just want a sheeta named Joe to post my goat memes on.)</p>
<p>Also, why can&;t we just have equal attention between wearables and pets? I don&;t understand this mindset that some people apparently have that Subeta has to be one or the other as Subeta&;s focus. Are we a pet site or an avatar site -- why can&;t we be both?</p>
<p>Lord, sorry, my brain is like 20% functioning so this post probably looks like total schite with little logic. Also if non-unique names did become a thing, I .. would probably end up making goat meme Joe because now I just really like the idea. rip

Since the whole thing about "privilege" is coming up, I'm with ...

There's only one Joe right now versus 999,999 numbers considered "low" IDs. You have a much, MUCH higher chance of getting those IDs than a singular name you really want. The only instance I see this as an issue is when a user wants a very specific string of numbers -- and let's be real, if it's not IDs like 666 or anything like that, does anyone actually do that?

People will always find ways to one up each other in some way. What about pets glitched with 1969 birthdays? What about pets glitched with no genders? What about pets created on certain dates? People will look for ANYTHING to be better than others.

You guys worrying about the pound getting flooded, what if staff opened a free temporary "pet deletion or renaming" service as courtesy? Of course it'd only be around a short while though.

I honestly don't like the compromise because... like I said, people will still look for things. People will want the original names, not the display. Plus it's added on coding (Keith said switching over would be easy or whatever -- creating a whole new system to give pets display names sounds like it'd take a LOT more work) that would probably also need to be changed in forums, in pet-related events, spotlight, etc.

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