Agree. I sadly haven't done much questing but I'm trying. Have to make time for new college classes and studying for GRE... Glad we are making progress, though.

Agree with Avel, this looks like bad planning. (I want to see what you guys think! :) )

Carl: 15 / 15 Cinthia: 1 / 15 Cursed: 15 / 15 Library: 15 / 15 Maleria: 4 / 15 Pete: 15 / 15 Quentin: 15 / 15 Sarah: 15 / 15 Saggitarius: 15 / 15 Wizard: 15 / 15

Almost done for the day I just really hate doing Maleria quests.... and Cinthia is just a passing thought. But I will get them done.

Yeah, I agree that it seems like everything is just crammed into this week. While I'm not a big battler, it's frustrating that people's attention will end up divided between quest a thon and battling. It's great to give variety and options for types of events for different players, but I think it would have went over better if it'd been spaced out a bit better!

I have totally abandoned the questing. I'm aiming to get as high as I can in battling the Boss, though I doubt I'll hit 5 million. I'm going to give it my best shot though. I just wish there was a counter so I could see how I'm doing.

Already posted in the Gelatine War vs. Quest-A-Thon

I DO NOT AGREE that this looks like bad planning at all.

Battling is not for everybody and only some users do it. It's a niche. You don't have to battle.

Nobody has to battle, and in fact it's been specifically claimed that the Hydragellos won't be defeated this time. In the past when there's a big boss there would be no fucking chance at all for weaker pets to score the very nice prize no matter how hard they worked, because Subeta's battle system isn't at all random. Now you have a chance. You have to work hard at it, but it can be done. Previous Big Bad fights, you really had to fight all week to get the goody at the end and there would be no guarantee even then, because it was competitive. Because of this competition you could not spare a second for questing if you were in the running (and the vast majority of users la la la la you just weren't that's how battling works. Whoever you were complaining about this for, chances are very good it was not you.). But it doesn't work this way this time, and I have already scored me a Core.

Nobody has to quest. In fact we didn't almost make it last time not because the quests or the prize weren't worth it altogether they totally were, but because other users just didn't want the prize as much as any of all y'all did. Awwwww. They had to be bribed with WSQ, which is just silly. If you're not questing, and back in the last 'Thon all those folks they were not, (and they were vocal about it) then why not have fun fighting Gelatines?

And if you like neither, then restocking to sell supplies to both is dang profitable right now.

Nopers, I do NOT agree with the original premise here, at all. I think this is an excellent combination of events.

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I DO AGREE that this looks like bad planning! I started back to school this week. I won't do any more quests because of the battling. Lots of people are like that and it will hurt the quests count :(

I don't have a strong enough pet to battle the Hydragellos but I did defeat Mini Gelatin 20 times in what must have been ten minutes tops.

As for the quests...I've got a week long gold account to sell as much merchandise from my shops so I have sP for my shop til and shop sales achievements. I'm questing also but only half heartedly. I find pricing my shops takes a lot of time and I haven't scratched even a quarter of the items I need to price.

I'm trying to do all I can... I'm probably one of the few people who could juggle both events due to not having much IRL obligations. I can see why some people would not be happy, the quest-a-thon has a higher stake and some people want to get the prize at the end but they might also battle too it seems very tricky to balance both unless you have lots of free time on your hands.

I would have to agree to disagree at this point. This is nice for the people who sit on either side of the fence but there are people who are interested in both and have a hard time balancing both. People who want to do both are picking one or the other and if they had been separate (or more separate, if the war started closer to the end date of the Quest-a-Thon instead of the middle of it), they wouldn't have to.

There was also a lot of time for both events to happen before the end of the August, when people do have school obligations. If this combo was done at the end of July/beginning of August, a lot more people could do both.

I wonder how much further we'd be in our quest goal if, every time someone wrote a post criticizing the timing, they went and did a quest instead. ;)

We'll be okay guys. We're almost halfway to our quest-a-thon goal! Last time, there were also users crying the whole time that we weren't going to make it, and yet we did. The goal may be raised this time, but it's definitely still realistic.

And if we lose? It's not the end of the world. As the staff behind the event have said, the prizes will be the same next time if this loses, and we seem to have quest-a-thons pretty often. So basically, you'll get a second chance at whatever prize you're wanting.

I won't be maxing out my quests each day, but I'll do a couple when I can to help out.

I have given a casual look at your pets and they're barely trained. I have never seen your name in Battle Chat. The Gelatin War will mostly not involve you. The Mini Gelatin Achievement took me four Gelatin Wars, and it will take you as long or longer unless you are insanely dedicated so if this particular one competes with some other event, so what if it does?

Subeta is a big game with lots of things to do. Even without these events right now, not every player could do everything there is to do. On days that I have been sick at home, I certainly have tried! No matter what Subeta does, someone will not be doing stuff, out of choice. It's a free country.

If this was the Bad Omen event, something that only happened once, or every five years ago, I would agree with you . But it's not. Gelatin Wars and Quest a Thons happen regularly. If you miss out on one, so what if you do? There will be another one coming along soon. Furthermore just how much you participate in either event is up to you. If you need need need to participate in both eventa all the time always to the fullest extent ever, then don't sleep. Neither event requires you or any other user to do this, though. This is a choice you have made.

Meanwhile, those who would only be doing one or the other could be so entertained.

I'm sorry, but these just seems like poor excuses to defend a bad decision.

I'm not going to bother arguing about it anymore because it won't change anything, but I think the criticisms should at least be acknowledged for the future. It's a bad idea to overlap two very time-intensive events like this, people shouldn't have to choose between participating in one or the other.

I'm not participating in it. I never said I was even interested in it so I don't know why you brought my pets up. :P Good job on the your achievement, though.

I am not one of those people trying to do both, but I see people who are and or ended up picking one thing over another and are stressed or upset about it. I think it could have been planned better to minimize those sorts if feelings but that's just me and I know you aren't going to change your mind. I just wanted to explain myself.

I would be a little upset if we lost but I am prepared for it because I still think it's likely. However, a lot of people are going to be upset and I can see the comments going sour for the third time this summer.

Maybe the battling was added this week to encourage more people to come on and quest. Either way, I don't have an issue with everything going on right now. At least we're having events.

Yeah well, I DO battle. I have a T12 pet and I have to choose between questing for something that may not happen and battling. Both are boring, both are a slog, both are boring. If they were happening at different times I would do both. But I really can't do both under these conditions and that sucks!

Its not fun. Its not a challenge. It feels like Subeta is working against me. I come here to play and enjoy myself and crap like this doesn't encourage that at all.

On top of that the site can't handle this either. I'm getting 10 times the 502/504 errors I was getting before battling started. Questing is going even slower than it was and the site keeps going down (admittedly only for a few minutes at a time, but I can certainly see it getting worse). They keep talking about the servers being unable to handle the options we want to see implemented, then hold two events simultaneously that stress the servers! Why?

If either of these events was happening singly, right now lots of people would be complaining about how bored they were and how this has nothing to do with them. It is in the interest of Subeta to keep all of its users entertained. Perhaps Subeta should continue to do these together, so folks who like to complain will have their entertainment too?

There's nothing super special about those who can and will try to do both, they do not deserve special protection compared to all other users. If they're participating they're having what's fun for them. Both events are grind-y. Therefore those who would try one or the other, to some extent they like the grind. The reward this time for battling the Hydragellos is very very very nice item that few users have, and for the folks who already have this item from the hard work they did, it seems OK to me to make folks who win it this time work harder, if even for a little bit.

Battling for the Big Boss take hours and hours consecutively over days and always has done. Questing on a day takes an hour, tops. There is no comparison.

I love your approach! Good on you for the positivity!