The idea of this being an sP sink doesn't even work because we're not buying the flowers from an NPC shop where the sP actually disappears, it's just being redistributed among the users.

I'm not saying that we need to have all of the bouquets by the end of this year, because if it comes back next year then we could finish then. But in the long run, how feasible would it be to get all of them if new ones keep getting added? And what will happen to Vesnali coins if people stop giving out flowers and hold on to them because they'll be worth more in the future because of these bouquets?

I just hope staff can understand that we're not complaining about the idea of the activity itself, but the way it was executed in requiring such specific flowers. Vesnali is a super short event anyway compared to most of the other site events, it's not enough time to rely on randomly getting all of the flowers needed. And buying them isn't reasonable either, I'm sorry but I'm not spending 20 mil to make one bouquet when there are 25 different ones to make.

I agree with everyone who said this was very badly thought out.

Why is it that many of the flowers we need multiples of are very rare? I've been hoarding most of my flowers since this event started but don't have enough of anything to make bouquets. I have made 2 of them by buying flowers from other users but I refuse to spend any more sP on them because of the way this activity has been designed.

I don't understand why multiples of a certain flower are needed either. I was looking forward to making a few as I have saved some from past years, but no. I find out it sucks to be me for giving them out. lol Now I must hoard.

I'm still hoping to get the tulips as there's one calla and tulip bouquet I really want for tc purposes. I've only seen around three tulips and that was before the bouquets. I wonder if I should just refuse the flowers not used and wait for the ones that are to show up? It just I'm also trying to take part in passing out flowers.

EDIT: Hah! I finally found a bouquet flower and it was a tulip. Only took 16 minutes of refusing all the other flowers. lol

It takes more than one because a normal bouquet takes more than one of each flower to fill it out. I know that it is not like normal things on here (genetech) but it isn't really supposed to be like those things? I think that it is great that they will be added more ways to get them in the future.

People are now living in fear that if they actually use the flowers for their MAIN purpose, they're going to LOSE out in the end.

This is not very fun.

You're making people less willing to interact with each other, and they're going to go with Profit Is King instead of actually taking part in flowergiving. Meaning, Vesnali Coins are going to skyrocket.

We need close to 2000 of them to get all of the 2017 items.

The real solution would really to have been

1. Giving more flowers via Donation Corner. Booyah.

2. Make all flowers usable via bouquets. Instead of having a bouquet using Orange Tulip and Red Rose, any tulip or any rose could have worked.

I understand the "WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BUY EVERYTHING" mentality, but I don't like how luck-based and grindy this is.

idk for you guys, but for a one-week event, not everyone has time to go and refresh pages like mad for flowers.

I don't have a problem with them taking more than one flower to make, just that they're so specific. Like others have mentioned, it will make people hoard all the flowers in case those specific ones end up being used for bouquets in the future.

If it had been use 10 random flowers and get a random bouquet, then all the flowers would still be ~equal in value instead of having some specific ones now costing millions.

Yeah I agree. I'm still giving out my non-bouquet flowers because I need a lot of previous year items from the shop still, but I'm also able to be on here a lot and collect a bunch more flowers.

I'm not just bringing this stuff up for myself, but for other people who can't be online except a little bit each day. The only way they would really have a shot at making the bouquets would be to pay crazy prices for all the flowers. I know it's not going to be fair for everyone anyway, but I still think this was not a great way to go about doing it.

The bouquets returning next year solves nothing. We're going to be able to make what, a single bouquet a year (if that) at the rate we're finding flowers that work in bouquets? That means we'll spend the next 25 years trying to get a full set. Hah.

There are so many entirely logical, reasonable things being said in this thread, and all of the points are being ignored in favor of "you're not supposed to be able to get them all" (that's fine, but we should be able to at least get one) and a refusal to admit that this was badly thought out.

real bouquets need more than one flower, sure. real weddings generally also only have one color scheme, not five. if they're using all of these as center pieces, they may as well have asked for wildflower bouquets.

you get a week to collect flowers; what you find is random and now you need to decide if you want to keep it for future bouquets, if you need it for a tc, or if you want to turn it in for tokens. that's a lot of stress for a limited resource, especially when it seemed like vesnali flowers never really deflate in general :<

eta / on a personal level, vesnali is one of my favorite events bc it's so low-key. i get to hoard a whole bunch of flowers and dump them on a person or group of people without worrying about timers or acceptances or anything. but now i don't want to do that after i secure x number tokens, in the off-chance that next year, maybe one of those bouquets will be in a color palette i just can't live without. and i mean yeah, that's a personal decision, but when the alternative is relying on rng to give me nine tulips and a begonia out of a couple hundred flowers... lmao

Oh I understand the frustration with that. I really do. I just saw the "why does it take more than one of a flower" question and the answer I guess just made sense to me. And I know it is not the popular opinion but I also hate the random result things. I don't want a random thing from this. That is why I never really liked donation presents...because it was random what you got xD I'd rather be able to choose which bouquet I got from it if it went to 10 random flowers.

I'm not a huge fan of random things either, but I would liken this to the things that Fantine and Charity give out during fireside. Turn in any pumpkin or food item and you get a random thing from the prize pool.

I think it would be easier to just hoard a bunch of random flowers and then keep trying until you get the bouquet you want. Or if you get extras of a certain one, you could maybe trade those for a different one. Instead, we have to hope we get the specific flowers we need either floating or from quests, or we can overpay for them in user shops. I have seen some people trading their extra bouquet flowers for different ones, which is nice, but not everyone will want to trade. And it still doesn't solve the issue of some being less willing to part with their flowers in case they become more valuable in the future.

I think it could have been kept to colours, and not types of flowers, eg: 2 red 2 pink 2 white, and you get a bouquet of those colours, so if you wanted a specific scheme you could have it, and keep those colours for your bouquets, and give the rest away.
Im not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and Ive spent hours working out how to get what I need, and not let any go that I might need, this has spoilt my giving of flowers to people. Ive got spares, but the thought of selling for the silly prices makes me feel uncomfortable, so more angst instead enjoyment. One idea I did have was to use them to make flower arches BUT using random ones not specific ones.
Weddings! theres always something...

Yep. I decided to get rid of my hoard of flowers because we're told hoarding is bad. I gave away 400+ flowers. Then this activity is announced. So I'm punished for obeying the site gods and trying to stop hoarding.

I have a hoarding problem. This has made it worse. I'm never going to get rid of anything again. Every single time I do, I get hurt by it.

These bouquets could have been lots of fun, several different ideas were mentioned already. Instead they have become a source of stress. Mostly because of an extremely short event with very low odds of getting the items needed.

I kind of like the idea of using 10 of whatever flower to get a random bouquet and the idea of using 2 of whatever color, 2 of another color, and 2 of yet another color to get a bouquet. Would've made this a lot more fun than it is. I have managed to make 1 bouquet and with how frustrating it is to try and find the correct flowers for combos, I'm thinking that's going to be it. 😞

This was a fantastic idea, don't get me wrong, but I feel it was poorly executed.

This is the most realistic florist simulation I ever experienced in my life. The sorting and time pressure is immense for a scheduled wedding in 5 days! Plus the client is buying huge amounts of really rare and expensive flowers that's time consuming to make... and paying only 15 coins per bouquet. So I didn't turn them in. They ended up in other people's wardrobes instead. Oh the irony xD

This is going to be some really interesting memory to talk about. I do appreciate the hard work that went into this, but it could be executed in a better way like the suggestions other made. I don't think I want to repeat this next time.

Its great getting extra flowers from the quests. I activated a GA to get extra quests for the event and I have yet to get a single bouquet usable flower from any quest. Its very frustrating. Not fun, not amusing, not encouraging.

Its also great if we can continue to make bouquets after the event. From the news post is sounded very much like we had a few days to try to make 25 bouquets and then they would disappear forever.

That helps a little - but I remember previous times we were promised that things would return after certain events and they never did, or it took years to get it done. So you'll forgive me if this news only soothes a very little bit of the frustration.

The wedding is on Saturday, May 20th, and it seems like we only have until then to make the bouquets. That's only 5 days (or 4 from today), although I know there could be other plans to obtain the bouquets. But people don't like uncertainty. In their minds, getting the bouquets or the achievement might disappear. In a way, I like building the bouquets, but it's tough. I think many would share the same sentiments.

I only got 1 from Cinthia, and 1 from Cursed quests. I did all 15 of both quests. Needless to say, this doesn't really help much for the bouquets.

I did see your post and it kind of felt like an afterthought to me. :/ I'm sorry to say it that way, but that's how I feel about it. In particular, the part with the gardens, and now the part with donating the flowers.

I don't know. This all still feels kind of rushed and sudden and like you're trying to smooth it over by going "it's going to be an all-year thing and you'll be able to get flowers from other places too. Shhhhhh, no salt & tears, only flowers. ❤" Could just as well be me being tired and extra grouchy, though.

It would've been cool to release it all together with the gardens feature and possibly donating some flowers to combat the inevitable price hitch following the rush. The way it was released, with no actual news post information about it being brought back besides a "maybe possibly perhaps" in the comments, and with no mention of getting flowers in other ways... Yeah, users are going to be upset, unhappy and anxious, and they're going to think that it's a time-limited thing (like the old Esther quest) that they need to do NOWNOWNOW before it's gone for another year. Or ends up forgotten in the avalanche of other things you guys handle. But then again - hindsight, etc.

I'm done crafting the bouquets, I got the ones I wanted, but I hope you guys can at least pick out some feedback and ideas on how to handle similar features in the future from this topic. It's a cute idea even if it's not quite my cup of tea.