Down for an increased flower rate for the ones in the bouquets..... or maybe make them an item in the Vesnali Shop? I feel like putting the bouquets in is missing the point of trying to figure out what ones go together,

(Also; thank you for telling us.... flower forum titles would be awesome).

There's a board in the Vesnali forums that document what flowers go into the bouquets. Of you could look it up on SubetaLodge. Point being, most everyone already knows what combo will make what bouquet, and the problem is getting the required flowers.

Thanks Amber for the information. Guess I'll just hoard my flowers then. :/

hypothetically? lmao

I dunno... I think even with Amber affirming that this kind of thing will return next year, I still don't quite like the idea of it. I only really care about the achievements but more titles means more tiers. Vensali was never quite my favourite holiday due to the randomness of the flowers in the first place but this just makes me like it even less. Like, I was getting stressed but getting enough flowers and coins in the first place due to the limited time and now I have to worry about bouquets now too.

I have eleven useable flowers and still can't make anything.

It won't be a more tiers kind of thing, I'm not that cruel.

I'm a bit curious now but I have a feeling you wouldn't say too much more about it. I feel a bit better though. I can focus on at least getting on bouquet at least.

I'm really surprised we need multiples of each flower to make a bouquet. That's not how genetech/cooking/alchemy/crafting/whatever have ever worked on Subeta, so this is a weird time to start, especially considering how hard it is to find the specific flowers you need in the first place.

On top of all the things people said, we haven't gotten a new sP sink in a long time. Here's one that could make good use :)

lol, I didn't actually believe it would be a real possibility when they announced the bouquets. And I got another naughty surprise when you actually need 4-6 flowers to make many bouquets, not 3-4.

trying to hunt down the flowers, especially 2 or more of each kind, gives me super aids. i can't wait for an easier option for this

I would love for these easier to obtain. Whether it be through increased chance at bouquet flowers or through adding them to the shop for a chunk of coins. Needing upwards of 3 of EACH flower for some of the bouquets is obnoxious. Obtaining one bouquet flower randomly out of years upon years of different flowers is hard enough.

I need multiples of every bouquet for TCs and even if I wasn't about to go into finals, I don't think I'd be able to get one each, much less multiples of each, this year. Like yeah, it'll return next year but then there might be several more bouquets. It's a never ending cycle and all I want is pretty flowers for my TCs. T____T

Awaiting the canned "you're not supposed to get all of them" response though. :/

Glad they will be coming back next year. I have been having crap luck getting hold of most of the flowers needed to make a bouquet.

It's mostly the part about needing multiples that really gets me. As noted, the site never does that with crafting, and it makes everything about this way harder than it needs to be, from collecting the flowers to figuring out the combination. It just comes off like it's being frustrating for the sake of being frustrating instead of for any actual reason -- the event is for a limited time and the flowers are already RNG-based in both variety and drop rate. The extra difficulty isn't necessary to enforce the bouquets' scarcity.

tbh, it would have been better to use 10 flowers, no matter what, and get a random bouquet.

Right now, why would I make a bouquet if I got eligible flowers? I'd be better off selling the flowers I get, because money.

Had all flowers work, it would have been fun to make bouquets, but this isn't fun

I pretty much agree with jim's entire post. To me, it feels like this bouquet thing wasn't thought out very well. I mean, I've gotten close to 180-200 flowers since it was added and I still can't make a single one. This really isn't fun or enjoyable in any way. These are such fun, versatile items for HAs, TCs, and galleries so its frustrating that they're gated in this bizarre manner. Considering how hard staff try to discourage hoarding I'm baffled as to why anyone thought this exact method was a good idea.

Yeah, this is pretty misjudged. Sure, there's some value in Working Together As A Team, but all the combinations were worked out pretty quickly, so now we're all sitting around at the mercy of the RNG. And only making a small fraction of the random items count when we've only got a narrow time frame to collect them in? At least give us some guaranteed method of occasionally acquiring a valid flower through some effort or puzzle solving, or something, rather than just having to passively wait for the site to spit out what we need. Why even require specific flowers if we have no control over how to get them?

I truly do enjoy these new bouquets. They are gorgeous and like many people, I'd love to make as many as I can. But MAN it's all based on the luck on the draw. You just have to do a ton of clicking and hope and pray that you'll find a flower that you need. I've made it a habit to obnoxiously scroll to the bottom of every page I go to just to be on the safe side.

I normally give away a ton of flowers for Vesnali or participate in some sort of contest. This year, I just so happened to hoard nearly all my flowers because 1) I wanted to see if there's a contest I really wanted to participate in and 2) I've been contemplating using them in a TC because the flowers are so pretty. I'm thankful that I decided to hoard them now, but it's really not fair to people who have been giving flowers prior to the release of these bouquets. I feel like the bouquets should've been released at the start of the event so that it would be fair to everyone.

Which leads to my next point. Now I don't even really want to give any flowers away. What if new bouquets are released next year? I mean, I'd personally love to have new bouquets because they're so pretty, but I'd like to have a head start to the game if it's possible.

I was going to say an sP sink as well, but I kind of like working for the bouquets rather than just drop sP on them. An increased rate on the flowers would be lovely. Even throwing them in the Vesnali shop for X coins would be a good idea. Give me a reason to let go of these flowers to receive coins instead.

So basically - don't give flowers to users because you don't know when you'll be needing them in the following months/years and you'll be kicking yourself. Gotcha!