- Hmmm... I can definitely look into those in the future! (I feel like you told me about them before, but it could have been someone else as well.)
- I actually find non-padded bras in discount stores like Ross. (I'm in the U.S.) But yeah, it's hard to find them and ones without wires.
- I've never heard those pronouns before. I've actually never heard they/them being used to refer to anyone offline except at a LGBT+ youth center I used to go to.
Oh yeah, binding with ace bandages can be really dangerous! When I first started out I was using an elastic exercise band which wasn't exactly smart either (and very uncomfortable). Thankfully I got my first binder from a good friend about a month later so I wasn't doing that for very long. Underworks is the brand I've been using and in particular this style: http://www.underworks.com/tri-top-chest-binder They're super comfy and work great but I have been thinking of trying gc2b, I've heard good things about them.
I want to legally change my name from my deadname Megan to my chosenname Sage. I would love to shop in the men's clothing section, but I'm not sure what size to look for in anything in that section and I usually end up getting clothes in the women's section b/c of the people I'm shopping with who I haven't come out to (most of my friends and their parents) or who take me to the women's section even tho she knows I'm nonbinary (my mom). I'd love some advice for this dilemma. :/ I do tend to get things like deodorant, hair care products, and the like in either the guys' section or the ladies' section, though! :) Also, I don't wear bras much anymore these days. If I do have to wear anything underneath my shirts or dresses (yeah, I still wear dresses sometimes), I will wear either sports bras, which are waaay more comfortable than non-sports bras, or camisoles.
My name is Sage! My pronouns are they/them/themself!
I'm pretty sure most clothing in the 'men's' section is conveniently sized in inches! So if you know, say, your inseam and waist measurements, it's not too hard to find a pair of pants that fits you. (If things aren't sized that way where you live, you can also grab a range of sizes in the same thing that look about right, and try them on in the changing room to see what works.)
As to shopping with friends/parents, I'd suggest just walking over there or saying "Hey can we go look over there?" If they ask you why, you don't necessarily need to out yourself, you can always say something along the lines of "I like how these clothes fit me/look on me better" "Sometimes they have cool stuff over here too" or even just "POCKETS" (b/c like, hell, pockets on American 'women's' jeans are practically nonexistant, ugh)
they/them/theirs, please.
wrt ace bandages: I know, I know >>_<< egg donor willfully delayed my binder delivery by two years "because [she] thought it was just a phase, and if [winterykite] asks again after half a year [she]'ll order it", and guess who fucking didn't. my awesome aunt and uncle got it to me within a month. (i really need to make a paypal) but it was binding versus dysphoria that has me at 50% of my productivity max, and yeah... now that i got a proper binder the ace bandage is back in the medicines box though, no worries ::P Germany here. Might have some luck at C&A, but really I ought to start sewing my own bras because all the bras are made with some kinda artificial fibre that pokes my sensory processing disorder ::/
Re: the shopping thing: Also, men's clothing is made with heavier/sturdier fabric! So the point "I want some sturdier clothing" also works. And [REDACTED] pockets in women's pants. It's a disgrace. -continues working on cargo skirt-
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Sorry to intrude, but I just have a quick question, or just some advice I guess.
I'm not NB but my best friend recently officially came out as NB on facebook and let everyone know their preferred name and pronouns and such, but we've mostly known it for a while now. And of course I'm completely supportive, there's no doubt, cuz we've all known they've been...nontraditional their whole life lol.
My mild issue/confusion is the they/them/their pronoun...it seems so, I dunno...impersonal? I've known my best friend for 10+ years! Referring to them as just some anonymous "them" just doesn't seem intimate, you know? Have any of you come across this with friends/family? Will I get used to this just like I got used to the new name? I may ask my friend straight-up, but I also don't wanna make a big deal out of it, because it isn't a big deal, it's just official now.
Any advice/stories/input is appreciated c:
They/them/their is pretty common usage among nonbinary folks, but it's still a bit unknown outside of those circles I've found, so I'm guessing that's why you're not used to it. But good news, you'll get used to it ::D The important thing here is that this is your friend's preferred pronoun set, and this is not about your feelings. Questioning them might come off as hostile, depending on your relationship. (Maybe it's just me with my damage from my egg donor, but people questioning choices I've thought about for a long time? I react badly to that. And your friend obviously has thought about them for a long time, and gotten comfortable with their chosen name and set of pronouns)
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Hello, I'm a transmasc enby looking for more LGBTQ+ friends! :) Would y'all be interested in a forum group?
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- I've only been exposed to they/them/their pronouns for a year. I understand what you mean by it seeming impersonal... I felt the same way at first. It does take a while to retrain your mind to recognize that those pronouns are not impersonal at all. In my case, it took a few months. And now, I'm starting to use them for myself!
You can tell your friend that it'll take you some time to get used to the new pronouns, but you'll do your best to use the correct ones. Communication is key, and since it's your best friend, I think you'll be fine. c:
- There is a group in the works as far as I know. Not sure when it'll be ready.
- I never understood the lack of pockets in women's clothing. I guess so purse manufacturers can make more money?
I have a sensory thing where tight clothing makes my skin feel disgusting. That's the main reason men's clothing is so appealing... it's loose and the fabric feels nicer on my skin.
yeah, it's a money thing. thinner fabrics mean they wear faster and you need more layers, and less pockets means the need for purses. It's why I wear guy pants. Or the cotton pair I bought on a faire last summer which has 6 huge pockets, two open at the hips, one set in with a zipper on knee level, and two set outside with flaps and velcro, also at knee level. Unless I bring something larger than DIN A5, I don't need any bags xxD (Also, [REDACTED] purses, and [REDACTED with a rusty spork] clutchs. Musette bags is where it's at.
I feel you on the sensory thing, omg. Yeah, wear stuff that doesn't make your skin crawl, it's not worth it D:: (For me it's artificial fibres, and bracelets, unless they're super tight.)
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nonbinary here! sort of, uh, weird genderfluid-y. agender and girl-leaning, sort of? but yeah, hi
nb here too! i'm agender + sometimes a girl, i think?? i feel pretty girly sometimes, but idk. i'm afab and basically always experience top dysphoria so i've been looking into breast reduction for a while. it's actually pretty viable for me so! i'm happy about that c:. i need to do some work on losing weight before i try though, and while motivating myself is super hard due to various things, i'm still pretty fired up about it! i don't have many ppl i can talk about this with irl and just thinking about it makes me happy so i wanted to share that.
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Gender is confusing for me, so I usually don't think about it ? I want to think about it a bit more. I feel that I'm definitely not a boy/man. And I feel kind of funny referring to myself as a "girl/woman" as well. I don't know if I come off as feminine, or masculine, or both at times.
I would refer to myself as nonbinary in public, but sadly I live in a place where that's just a ridiculous sentiment. Hmm.. ;;
If you want someone to talk through your gender with/ask questions about gender stuff, feel free to send me a message!
they/them/theirs, please.
Heya folks! 23-year-old, nonbinary, trans-leaning, AFAB dude here. I use they/he pronouns, with a preference towards neutral they/them.
I uh, never really talked to others about gender stuff before so, I guess if anyone wants to PM me, feel free! For now, I guess I'll ramble here.
For me, my gender is a weird, weird thing. I'm not entirely sure what I am, but at my point in life, I'm tired of questioning, and am just learning to accept that whatever I am, I am me. There's no need for me to put a label on it.
I was born AFAB and was relatively ok and oblivious until hormonal changes started to happen and what have you. This was when things started getting weird and I got seriously uncomfortable. In 6th grade, I started binding, with sports bras and ace bandages. Big no no, I know, but back then I didn't know! Since then, I've struggled with my gender, and presentation. I went through a phase of hating anything that was labeled "feminine", skirts, certain colours, cute clothes, ect. If it wasn't baggy, ill fitting, and from the walmart men's section, 3 sizes too big, I had no interest. Since those years, I've come to realize that I can enjoy those things, and still be an adorable ball of love, without negating who I am. Now-a-days, my favorite colour is pastel pink, I love finding all the cute clothes I can!
When I am asked what my gender is, or what I identify as, I always say the same thing. I strive for androgyny. I want most in life to be a comfortable, gorgeous, androgynous anomaly that makes people double-take and question what they've just seen. A little crazy sounding, yes, but it's what I've settled with. I'm currently in the process of trying to find a non-conversion therapist to help me with approval for top surgery and a hysterectomy, as those are the major sources of my dysphoria that plague me on a daily basis.
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I'm non-binary too :) I use either they or he pronouns though. I'm still confused as to if I am trans or not, i'm afab but I have LOTS of crippling dysphoria every day (so bad that sometimes i'll just lay in bed and cry) My face is very androgynous though which I am forever happy about!
o/ Also nonbinary. If you want specifics I'm mostly fluid between aporagender/androgyne/juxera.
I use they/them pronouns, mostly for convenience.
So very close rn to getting back on hormones.
What you seem to be missing is that people's bodies, styles, and genders are their own and they can do whatever they want with them. If someone feels most comfortable without hormones or surgery, then that is their decision, and it has no impact on their gender. It's not about being a "purist", it's about doing what will make an individual the happiest with themself.
they/them/theirs, please.