I haven't attempted past level 22 or so, because I'm usually pressed for time and only do battle quests that are over in one attempt. I will try later today to confirm.

I didn't start boosting until T10, but I would give weapons first priority anyway. Especially saving up for Soma Tablets and Reviver of the Lion.

He also disabled my scrolls for two turns at one point, which was a bit annoying, but may make an impact on smaller battlers.

I would wait before getting it - he looks to be a T9 opponent at least.

Let me know, I would consider buying MSOB before I buy STS.

You probably can not beat Moonrise dragon or Saggi right now, but with MSOB, I would think you can probably beat Moonrise, and maybe Saggi. Might need a touch more HP, but for me with 2000/1200/800/700 stats, saggi and moonrise are beat on the first attempt 90%+ using MSOB + constant that he does not block (earth/wind/ice/water combos legends are what I have used, but that is probably not a requirement, just optimal) vs Saggi, and MSOB + Pirate Cutlass for Moonrise.

awesome - that makes sense! Thanks ^-^

That makes sense, but I got a bit excited a few months ago and bought a bunch of weapons. I currently have a Pquill, soma, reviver, and temple shard in my armory along with a swash and DGR. So at this point I'm unsure what weapons I have left to save for - there are obviously a ton of specialty weapons, but are there any essentials left to buy?

I would argue that depending on how much you want to boost, buy MSOB and possibly CWS. They are 2 very powerful weapons in the mid tiers, but if you plan on boosting completely to tier 11 in 1 go, might not be worth it to pick up.

Is there a reason MSOB/CWS aren't useful after tier 11?

Sounds like you have a solid armory :) You could save for the sake of saving? :P Battling can be quite expensive so I wouldn't put all of your sP into stats. Maybe just give yourself a daily or monthly allowance for boosting?

Yeah you're probably right, saving does make the most sense but boosting is just so... tempting. Thanks again! ^_^

LOL, I know what you mean :P I assume you're already doing BQs and Shinwa/Quentin quests each day? Getting into the habit of doing those will make your stats grow at a nice pace by themselves :)

, I haven't done the math to figure it out to be honest.

At 1600 Def (chosen for easy math of 10DPI)

You are potentially able to have a weapon set up that does 350 icons of defense with 19% heal (including scrolls) vs 200 icons and 29% heal using 2x god weapons

So 150 icons vs 10% heal (and half as much damage)

If you have up to 12500HP the MSOB can potentially mitigate more damage, but thats only if the opponent does enough damage of the spefic icons that you are dealing each turn.

So there is a theoretical benefit to them, but only under very spefic circumstances, that I am not sure if they exist yet. If they make a Paramesian Saggi, MOSB + ME/SBow would probably be the best combo against him (depending on how much he ends up healing for.)

The BAs can make an opponent where MSOB/CWS are the absolute best weapons for, but the question is will they.

Yeah, I can get up level 20 which translates to about 12 stats a day, which means I'll reach tier 8 in just under two months, which seems so long and short at the same time, you know?!

Ah right that makes sense, I don't think I'll boost past tier 11 right away anyways and I have found myself in a situation where I've considered buying the MSOB/CWS, so I'm actually glad you brought them up - I'll give them a bit more serious thought now.

If you train/BQ mostly HP, and get MSOB/CWS, you will beat saggi/moonrise/gatekeeper far sooner than you would training even stat pets and not buying them.

My Defualt set:

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I didn't start boosting until around 1k stats, when I was a T7 and knew that I had enough boosters to get me to T9- T10.

Oh yes that purple warts thing, I almost forgot about that. I would freeze him first turn with my helm and then use the freezing scrolls. You could use a different 100% freezer though that isn't the helm.

I would try the reborn icewand for a chance at freezing. Maybe try picking up a pirate cutlass to use with the icewand or an earth blocker like the minotaur knocker

Just know that there's nothing wrong with pacing yourself 😊 I boosted a lot late last year and then paced myself when I hit T12. I found I liked pacing myself a lot more because there was no pressure :P

But if you want to try boosting for a little while to see where that gets you, then go for it :D

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Tier 8 using frostbite amulet + MSOB + Feather Explosion. Probably not doable by a tier 7 due to lack of frostbite amulet, maybe doable though.

Your set seems pretty well off. Maybe save up for more scrolls? What scrolls are you using now?

I do train my pets evenly but that's just because I train so many pets. For me a pet is going to be t12 for a while before he starts getting BQs. Then I train health ahead of the rest. I can't think of a situation where I would ever train speed early.

I tested out the CEF this morning. I got 11 freezes in 30 battles, so around a 33% chance to freeze without taking the freezer spot. The test was with a t10 pet with around 1650 stats. I agree with you that under 2k speed it is a mediocre weapon, even in a 15 round battle, but it is the freeze chance that keeps the CEF in my default set! At 4k+ speed, you are crazy NOT to use it in long battles :)

WHOA! I dk that the flame had a chance to freeze... and up to 4 curses? Now I gotta toss in the armory and try it out...

Thanks for the info! :)

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So there is a lot of boosters discussion but also I'm wondering about something. The upside to early-ish prioritization of health is that you can beat some opponents earlier. But when is the really the latest or average time you need to start training unevenly if you plan on doing so at all?