I was looking at the Book achievements and noticed the RD one. I didn't know what the RD achievement prizes were so I looked them up. Thunderballs do not exist for sale anywhere on site. Seeing as retired achievements' prizes are antique in a way it would make sense if they were for sale in the shop too. NOT the Link back to FB prize though. That 100 CSC card is plentiful enough lol

Edit: I'd also love to see event prizes related to the event that are not achievement prizes added to the antique shop, too - the , for example. It's related to epiCon 2013 but there's only one for sale in trades and only two in galleries. It's on a bunch of WLs, too

Yes please! and also retired opponents battle loots!

There are some plushies and beanbags that costs way too much or not really available..

I don't like the idea of old achievement prizes being in the antique shop. They are a reward for completing certain achievements. Would I love to get my hands on certain retired achievement prizes? Hell yes, but I don't believe they have a place in the antique shop.

but they are available in limited quantities and they are like the plot prizes.

• Did your effort = got prizes for "free" (not to mention the effort and time and all that bs everyone says. C'mon, if you're not doing it for fun then why are you playing this game?)
• Didn't participate for any reason = can only buy these prizes from users who got them from the first source. So, if you can't get it anymore, why not be able to purchase them for a small fee from the Antique Shop? I'm pretty sure there are many other items that are retired now that can't be even found like the Thunderball. Even if you're purchasing with pure or offering double the price, not everyone is willing to share theirs.

I'd rather have them in Crystal Shop, tbh

yeah the Crystal Shop should definitely have a bit more love. it's as good as quests for item sinks, but it accepts almost any commonly-found item and has unlimited capacity so c'mon just do it

Alright, enough is enough. People need to stop looking at every expensive item and say "Well, instead of saving up for it, let's see if it can be rereleased" This is getting out of hand.

First off, don't even consider bringing back battle achievement loot for anything valued in sP. You want the loot? Pour the vast time and effort people do into training their pets. Billions on top of billions of sP and weeks of time just for some entitled user to clamor it was unfair other users have what they want. If top end battle loot ever gets re-released, it should be as top end battle prizes, something very few users can actually achieve, even with a cap in place.

I'm of the opinion that some things need to stay retired. It hurts trading and people buying items. There's already very little incentive to buy battle weapons because everyone usually knows someone who owns something, or can just ask. Across the rest of the item pool, it becomes pointless to shell out sP when it's possible the item will just drop again and be worth a lot less. It hurts trading as a whole, and don't make this about old owners v. new owners again. This is about users wanting things now, and not having the patience to earn the sP to buy the item they want.

/end rant

Yeah, I'd rather see those kind of things in the Crystal Shop.

I'm all for limited re-releases of items that just don't exist on the market anymore. It's important they retain their value though, and I think limited release in a way that requires more work than just buying them is generally for the best for things that literally only need a handful more released. So basically re-release weapons/scrolls through battling cause it makes more sense. Release that wearable that only 6 people got but 1000 people want through the antique shop/crystal shop.

I can see the benefits and downsides to both arguments. The one thing I keep seeing is that it's not necessarily going to get sP out of the system, it's just going to change hands. We need a way to get the sP out of the system.

I don't see the harm in releasing very rare retired achievement prizes in the antique shop as long as they're very, very limited in quantity (I'm thinking one digit amount. ...could quantity be a thing in the antique shop?) and price appropriate.

there is a different between an expensive item to not available anywhere item....

Thunderball - none in SS or trade, only 4 at the Galleries.

Now tell me how can I save for something that nobody is selling?

The top battle loots from the big event bosses should not be re-released, you are right!

But others? why not? they already re-released the Islanders/Pirates weapons.. BUT not the scroll of the Jacques king of the sea opponent. Those weapons are useless anyway and just for collectors.. so I prefer that they will re-released them for a big amount of sP that will go out of the system instead of moving the sP to a new hand..

I never once mentioned battle opponent prizes. Those are exclusive. However, known prizes that are visible to all (retired achievements, of which a good number I'm sure are unavailable to find anywhere (educated guess but a good probable one), are what I'm talking about.

I am against the TS this time as the rotation can happen very quickly and the same items may be forever until they appear again. If people are looking for more sP sinks it'd be another avenue for one to happen. Antique items from achievements and events belong in the Antique Shop...especially if the achievement prizes are related to the events that are being placed in the Antique Shop now or in the future.

Other retired achievement prizes unrelated to any event could do with being placed in the TS...but only if they're not rotated in a blink of an eye.

I do feel that event and associated event achievement prizes should be together in the same place, and that's the Antique Shop.

I'd kind of prefer that retired items stay retired, unless that event ends up happening again (which, given plotline, is unlikely).

If something is going to be rereleased, I'd prefer that it were through the crystal shop. That at least gets items and stuff out of the system.

qft

also not everything has to be for sale at all times

if no one is selling, then you wait. or you convince someone to sell. I'm sorry not everything is directly available to you whenever you want it. That's how the entire weapons market works for higher end stuff.

As an owner of a Thunderball obtained via the achievement, I'd be actually quite pissed if it was released via the Crystal Shop. I personally feel like the crystal shop requires very little actual work and is frankly dirt cheap to gain the needed amount of crystals.

I am not however opposed to the Thunderball (and other like items) being released through the Antique Shop or something similar. It would have to have a hefty price tag and priced differently than the traditional Reading Drive prizes.

Selling them in a limited quantity somewhere would also work, just not for dirt cheap. I remember we had the short-lived weapons shop opened up during the Cruise a few years back, maybe that could return? I know it was only open for a few days and I think it only had X amount of quantity in stock too but I can't remember that part for sure.

I dunno how well-received a short-lived store would be. Only the richest people would be able to get anything from that if something like that came into play and the majority of the player population would be upset XD At least through the Antique Shop it'd give people an opportunity to save up for the items in question...if they ever had a desire to XP

I agree on the retired achievement prizes being in the antique shop (please not in the crystal shop!).... especially if there's absolutely none of an item for sale, to me it seems the most logical way of releasing them back into the economy, while removing some sP at the same time ;)

The shop that was opened during the Cruise event I believe did alright, I don't recall there being too much drama over it but I might just not remember.

Either way though as long as the items don't go into the Crystal or Token shops I wouldn't really care how it got released. While it's neat I have an awesomely rare item that I worked really hard to achieve, I don't feel that no one else should ever have one ever. I just don't want my work to be "devalued" by getting re-released by some cheap means.

I think maybe making them a new achievement achieved by maybe some sort of battle means might be a nice alternative too.

The thing is, the Antique shop doesn't have quantities, while the crystal shop does. Having a solid quantity is better to control how much of an item enters in the economy.