I'm close to a point where I feel like a bad person for doing my quests...XD

Anyway, maybe staff should have put in a limit right from the start. Like, you can stock up a maximum of let's say 750 QPs and that's it until you spend some points. That way there'd be no "massive hoarding" and new users would now have the same chances that we had when the Quest Shop came up. Not sure if that's still an option, I know that I'd have no issue with being capped and losing most of my points but I can only speak for myself.

I don't like this idea. I'd have to use points on items I don't want and which are useless to me. I suppose I could sell the items but as I've already got over 4.5 billion sP with nothing to spend it on it would be a lot of bother when I don't have a GA at the moment. (I can no longer cope with pricing stuff by hand)

You wouldn't have to spend your points, you simply couldn't earn any more once you reached the maximum until you buy something. Once you'd buy something you could earn the spent amount in QPs again until hitting the maximun once more and so on.

Never thought of that - my excuse is that I haven't had enough coffee this morning to get my brain working. :)

I hate the idea of special currency points becoming rarer just because some people have a lot of them. I've got 1,211 Vesnali Coins because there wasn't much in the shop I wanted to buy. Does than mean everyone is going to be punished next year by Vesnali Coins being harder to come by?

This. I don't like having zero anything. I don't like knowing that one of my pockets is empty. I will never empty a pocket. Even a pocket for a shop that will never have new items because, "what if I suddenly want something from that shop?" I'm currently sitting on a heck of a lot of sP because "but what if I need something really expensive?" or "what if there's a new sP sink?" or "there'll be new MC items soon," and "I have a lot of sP; I can relax for a while." I like having spare currency (of course a useless heap of 20,000 WT is equally undesirable because there's nothing to spend it on). I haven't spent all of the Masquerade 2013 event points even though there's no reason not to. I have a giant pile of Lounge Trinkets even though there's still food that I want to buy. I haven't spent my New Years Tokens because I only have 140 and I'm waiting for next year to save some more before I make any big purchases. I only have 78QP, I can't spend all of that! I won't have any left if I need it :'(.

Also, you don't get to have a lot of currency by spending it. If you "hoard" currency, surely increasing the cost of an item won't do anything because you still aren't spending. Likewise making it scarce doesn't prevent "hoarding". Now it just takes longer to stock pile.

At this point I would prefer a cap on how many QPs you can have until you start spending some of it.Anything would be so much better than what is being done right now.I have many different items I would like to buy but can't.

I agree with , I'm personally going to be a lot thriftier about spending my QP since I'm not getting as many. I'll also probably set the bar higher for items I feel I "need" to get. Either way, it won't discourage me from hoarding. It'll discourage me from buying. :/

I do appreciate what they're trying to do, but... hmmm.

Quest Point You have 2,852.

I feel bad for the fact that I actually do what staff wants, participate, when I get like over 100 of any special currency. Whenever I see the "Some users have too much. Nerf!" I'm all, "Well, sorry for playing on the site like I normally do." :/

I can't help that I have a hoard of quest points. There's nothing in the shops at this moment that I need or want. In fact I once tried to bring my points down by buying out Carl's shop. I really didn't want the items but that was the only shop I never touched. I'm picky over what I'd buy. TCs come first followed by books (as I have 5 copies of each to buy) then wears.

staff specifically said they were not basing any decisions around that, because those people are far above and beyond the average user and there's very few of them.

Please explain to me how this is even remotely a good plan...

To give some perspective- the number of tokens I need to buy the items on my wishlist (which is 90% books from the shop, with a handful of wearables that I love) is 535. That's the minimum. Doesn't include future items or even all the items from every shop. And how many points do I have now? 50. I've never had more than ~65 tokens. Over the last week, I've been questing like mad to get page views for flowers. I've earned maybe 10-15 tokens.

This is unacceptable.

Yes, QPs should be "difficult" to get, so that they're rare. Collecting items from the shop should take effort and dedication.

However... ARE WE NOT DEDICATING ENOUGH EFFORT FOR YOU?!

If you wanted it to be difficult, well, CONGRATULATIONS! You've succeeded! You've put thousands of tokens worth of items in the shop (beautiful and useful items too!), while simultaneously making it next to impossible for an average user to ever get said items.

All I can think of, then, is that there aren't enough site artists. If points are made more difficult to come by they won't have to keep putting a lot of new items in the QP shops.

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I really hope the bar is set super high on that max. I hate the idea of being told I have to spend my points when there is nothing I want.

Apologies for the ping on top of the quote. I meant to click on the edit post button.

Why not put a greater variety of items in the shops so the range appeals to more people? I've started a topic about it in the Item Suggestions forum. It's likely that others will add to it. After all, I doubt that many players want to collect all the facial hair items from Carl's shop but some would like pirate themed stuff.

Why aren't quest points a constant - You do X quests, you get a point - where X is always the same value, rather than being yet another RNG thing?

Also, wider variety? I hate to break this to you, guys, but we have pretty much every single category of item in the quest shop already?

We have multiple stickers, multiple wearables, multiple minions, multiple books, we have beanbags, we have plushies, we have foods. It's true we don't have trading cards and such, but the problem with the qust shop is not lack of diversity.

I mean

sticker

food

minion

wearable

plushie

beanbag

If your rationale is "I HAVE 1500 POINTS AND WELL I'D BUY MORE THINGS IF THERE WERE MORE COLLECTABLES", keep in mind there is someone who has as many points as you who wouldn't buy a single of these collectables. No, they are going to be "I HAVE 1500 POINTS AND WELL I WANT MORE WEARABLES BUT ALL WE GET IS BEANBAGS"

There are pretty of things where there is not enough diversification, but the quest shop is not one of these things.

NO PLEASE not a maximum!!

I think having them become rare as you get them throughout questing is probably a great solution, since some people seem to greatly favour some quests and totally disregard others. This lets people who aren't doing them all everyday get some qp reliably and lets people who do want to give it their all get a decent perk out of it, that's what compromise is :D.

i love rng, sorry :(. if we get rid of rng, praying to rngesus before i finish each quest will do nothing for me :(. (this is slightly sarcastic but i really do like rng)

Also, we dont have any weapons whistles and battle quests could give out qps whistles and they could be made ridiculously expensive to give something worthwhile for the people who aren't spending otherwise to buy and sell or use whistles I know that won't happen, but I can dream :P.

I meant a greater variety in style. I started a topic in the Item Suggestions forum for things that people would like to see.

For example, some years ago we had a range of torture implement toys for Morostide. Why can't Quentin have some more things like that in their shop? After all, they're supposed to be a demon. One of my pets would love an iron maiden (not a cuddly plushie version) and a guillotine for her treasure chest.

On my kindle so I can't quote things but I appreciate the increase in quest points now but please do not add a maximum to the number of points to be held. I'll probably never hit it but it's not really fair to those who aren't interested in the items and just let them accumulate

Because as demonic Quentin can be, they're not the kind of characters I see selling iron maidens.

Quentin seems more like this guy : attending Feli poker weekly, but overall being an affable kind of demon.