So the restocks for Subq were slowed when the invites were already slow? Such reasoning!

The invites are becoming almost worthless, and players, including myself, now have a massive amount of them that are just collecting dust. I'm a pretty hardcore restocker from both before and after the recent revamps, and I now can't stand the SubQ as either a restocker or as a player who focuses lots of resources toward my wardrobe. It's frankly not worth the time anymore.

My suggestion would be to increase the amount of each item that stocks a little (not to where it was before, but between the two points) while also increasing the cost of the items in the SubQ. The cost increase should only apply to newer items though; otherwise, you'd end up with a stock of items in the SubQ no one was buying because they're cheaper on the user market.

Maybe it's just me, but it also appears that the RE rate for the invites has recently been increased? I've recently gotten dozens in a very short period of time. It seems to have gone on too long now to be a fluke, so if they have become more plentiful I'd recommend decreasing the RE rate as well. They're already down to 153k as of this posting, which certainly isn't helping to maintain the value of SubQ items if that's the objective.

Yeah, the invite price drop should tell you a lot.

I was enjoying being able to complete my collection before things retired and I had to pay an arm and a leg for a wig I couldn't catch, blarg. Now there's nothing there three fourths of the time.

Basically with less items it means that the invites are going to be cheaper than hell because none of them are getting used. This is not a good plan, at all.

Price hike is the way to go. The price of the items goes up, the price of the invites will go back up to 300-500k and everyone is happy.

I agree with the side of this conversation that feels devaluing the invitations through under-use (as casual players can no longer find desired items in SBQ) detracts from the site more than potentially increased user shop prices for SBQ items enhances it. I'd also like to point out that if the purpose in limiting the number of items that restock is improving SBQ's potential as an sP sink, then hiking the in-store prices will force users to keep additional sP at the ready, exposed to random events like tax collection. Losing sP that way can be annoying, but risk/suspense enhances most gaming experiences, and might be considered worth it for the reward of actually finding the set-completing items you want in-stock without, as others have observed, refreshing the page 12 hours a day.

This is a great post. I'd be more than happy for the SBQ prices to be hiked - I mean it would make sense considering some of the makeup items that are ALWAYS available are around 300k. If the price isn't raised then the invite drop rate needs to be lowered, they're currently at 120k which is insane.

I find it kind of weird how the subQ cosmetics cost more than the clothing. I don't think I've seen a lot of people complain about the cosmetic costs, so a price hike on the clothing shouldn't be too bad imo. :) Invite prices are horrible right now. Something needs to be done. ;x

I wouldn't mind seeing an adjustment on the invite RE, I don't think that % has been adjusted since the reduction of stock. I'd like to see how the current change affects newly released sets and see how well the values hold before upping item costs and changing other factors.

I don't mind the reduced stock amount. I do mind people still trying to sell 7 invites for 100 csc.

still annoyed by this change. Find a middle ground with the stocking, and raise the prices. Problem solved, and everyone's happy

I am gaining more subq invites than I am seeing restocks.. i should just sell off all of my invites, because its kinda getting ridiculous. Invites are what at 100k right now?

Oh my GOD.

When all the SubQ invites got bought up in usershops and they were going for millions, people bitched (LOL REMEMBER THAT)

When they're dirt cheap, people STILL BITCH.

Use your invites, buy some pretty lipsticks, and calm your tits.

Except we're not talking about the always in stock make up items except to reference that people WILL pay for higher prices on SubQ items. We're talking about how invites are now worthless because the actual clothing isn't restocking worth shit, so they can't be used. I could buy half of the make up with the amount of invites I have right now, but I don't WANT all that make up. I want clothing items. Clothing items which are now ridiculously difficult to get for a really asinine reason.

So we have a pile of worthless invites, impossible to get clothing, and make up that's going to become so devalued so fast because that's all people are capable of buying with said worthless invites.

Reasoning? There is none. Just

The reason the stock was reduced is because they don't want these items being 100K later on do to the influx of them in the system (there are retired SubQ items under 100K and it's pretty hilarious).

Yea, it sucks, but I still manage to catch restocks and get items I need. Not as often as I used to, but I still catch them.

Also, the reason the invites are so cheap isn't just because the stocking amount was reduced. It's because the RE amount was upped. I get 2+ invites a day now. Maybe they should uhh... turn that off for a while....

That's retired items, though, and many of them weren't very desirable to begin with. And in comparison, I've seen Vanity items - cash shop items, from when they were still random! - at 200K in the user shops. It's not about rarity, it's about desirability (and in my opinion, many SubQ items lately haven't been that desirable)

None of us are asking for the stocking to go back to the way it was with the same prices. We want a median, where it's actually possible to get items we want without having to sit in the shop for two hours and hope the items we want are going to be stocked. Subeta has this problem with not understand people have school, and jobs, and lives, and can't be expected to sit around all day for the one chance to grab that one item.

If they want the items to retain value (and as stated before, I fail to see how they weren't. In stock items were usually about 800K from the ones I've seen) then up the price, not make them impossible to obtain. They could: stock the original number of items they used to, but only stock one of each at a time, or stick with the 3-4 individual items, but stock 3-4 of them. The middle ground is easy to find, and if they want an sP sink (which this is now not, because people are buying the items from the users and shuffling sP around instead of taking it off site) then all they need to do is raise the prices to be on par, or slightly surpassing the make up. You want me to pay 250k-300k for this high end item? Totally, as long as I get the chance to actually buy it from the shop.

Holy ballsacks, the price of SubQ Invites has been butchered.

Yeesh, at least make them readables now since things such as CDs are readable as well...

I also support the idea of just raising the price of the items in the shop.

The items are supposed to be exclusive, and it was annoying to see less popular items just sitting there for hours, I have to say... I don't know, maybe I don't really understand because I don't have hoards of invites? I'm lucky to find one a month. I also don't enjoy trying to RS. At all. I find it annoying and a waste of my time. That being said, I still catch items I want. You just have to pay attention to when the last RS was, and there's a group for that...or if you are like me and have limited patience, you cave after a while and buy it from someone else.

I can see a benefit to raising prices in SubQ if the idea is to help the economy. I also see the benefits to this change. By putting less product out into the market, they are keeping the value of the items from SubQ. It's like when I was working for a major party store, and EVERYONE wanted Frozen stuff...and Disney refused to release mass amounts of it until much later. They knew demand was high, and if they kept supply low, people would pay more for it. If this little change can help the Subeta economy, I'm all for it. I'm not saying anyone is wrong to be upset. But we have to keep in mind that this economy is sooooo broken...some changes like this need to occur. We're not going to like all of them. You win some, you lose some.

Since this change has been implemented, I have only been able to get 1 item that I was wanting. 1.

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to sit around all day waiting for the item I want. The RS group is now becoming more useless because things go so fast; by the time someone pings either most things are gone, or no one is ever able to ping a full restock.

I don't think that this change is actually benefitting the economy at all, considering the low price of invites. My personal goal is to collect everything from a set directly from the SubQ and I know now, that that is probably never going to happen unless I have all day to sit around and wait for an item, and a lot of time to do it in. Increase the price of SubQ items and stock a few more items. I would be more than willing to pay a little extra and sink sP into this rather than have the sP move around from user to user through user shops. Not only would you be getting more sP out of the system.

Where is the middle ground? Because I don't know if Subeta can find it.

I'd like to see the item stock amounts upped to 2-3 per restock. I think the decrease to 1-2 was too dramatic. If people are worried about the price of invites being too low, then perhaps lower the chances of the random events for them? I don't think a price hike of the items being sold in the SubQ would do much to fix the problem.

Why not change the SBQ clothing section to the same system as the makeup sections? Everything is always in stock but we need invites to buy things. This would be a very good sP sink, especially if the prices of the clothing items were increased.

PS: From what I remember, the invitation system was introduced as an attempt to stop players just buying stuff to resell. Only people who really wanted the items were supposed to get them. This didn't work.

I've wondered why it seems like the SBQ was always empty.

Subeautique Invitation 130 in your safe

I guess I can buy out the rest of the makeup I don't have even though I don't really want them...

I haven't notice this making the prices/pieces stay exclusive at all. I have seven pieces left, all are from the newest sets released, that I need and have been casually keeping check on their usershop prices. Since the last time I've checked, right before survival, and bought two that were under a million I now have two more under a million with one close to dipping under. The rest of the items are right at where they normally would be at this time since being released and pretty much on track to price lowering as usual. Of course the two sets I need to finish are the more masculine sets so that probably doesn't help them.

Back before we needed invites I remember having to really pay through the nose for set pieces. I think the highest back then I paid was around 20mil for the lolipop wig. Which was an awesome deal because like a week later the set retired and the wig went pretty much unbuyable. Now since the SBQ change I don't even have to pay that high of amounts. I think the highest I've paid from usershops was upwards of 3-4mil.

I should go and buy those two pieces that are under a million.