Agreed. I said something close to that in an earlier post somewhere, I think. 5 exp for beating an EH/Imp challenger past 10 wins is ridiculous. Battle tokens are already much more common from BQs and the high score table is still MIA. I'm not seeing the point of going beyond 10 wins today compared to a few days ago.

I am totally fine with making speed more important, but I am not a fan that is effecting healing this much...anyway I still can make a nice build but I can see where people are coming from.

Also I do understand that exp would be more expencive but not this expencive. Now you have to rely on boosters, because that is what people will do and I hardly see the point of that. I wouldnt do the bqs with my main battle pet unless my other pets cant handle a certain opponent, probably like most of the people here, and just give all the boosters to my future tier 13 pet.

I know they dont want people to hit the cap right away again, but you cant people stop from boosting anyway, all you have now is that it is a veryyyy hard for people who want to get stats without spending csc or billions of sP on boosters because they simply cant. And even without being the exp this expencive it will take long enough time to hit the cap again. So making the exp cost a little less would be great :P

I never did ask for a cap raise and I feel like it will be wayyy much harder for people like me to catch up with the strong pets and it will be very hard to be a top battler in a next boss fight.

I think someone said it was 50

How many Imp challengers can you get 100 wins on ? Because that's barely enough for 1HP. AKA I'd rather get nothing than being insulted, and yeah, this is NO motivation whatsoever for us let alone the general battling people

However. However, however, however :

Can we. Not. Catching up ? Why should people be entitled to catching up ? Boss fights happen never and features shouldn't be built around things that happen once a year. Keith & co have already said they don't like how boss fights are set up so I would expect this to also be changed at some point

Pets don't have to be capped to be strong. Because other pets are stronger than yours does not mean your pet is weak. If 22k statted pets were strong for you before, they are still strong now. Hell, if a Tier 12 was strong last week, it's still strong now (unless it had 0 speed, then, lol)

Yeah, like a few others I don't mind the speed=healing thing so much as the fact that I'll only be able to get 6-7 speed points a day and my next 'upgrade' is 997 stats away. Even when I hit that I still wont be healing for what I was yesterday morning. I have probably a year of just training speed ahead of me to get where I was, and I guess I don't understand why it doesn't use a formula like strength or defense?

Seeing a little raise in healing every few days is more encouraging than having to wait half a year to heal 100 more hp.

Which means a year of doing BQs would put me where I was yesterday. If it dissolved the healing cap and meant that eventually I COULD heal more than say the 750 with my cronus, I might be a bit more accepting of it, but right now it just means I'll have to work to catch up to myself lol

I dont have to be nr 1, but I would love to get higher in rank though, that is were I am working for after all. Get higher in rank, would love to have my pet in the rank under the 100 (that is a goal of mine).

And nope, not making my pet strong for a boss only, i do it for the fun of it and the goals I have set on subeta, but would love to have the loot of the bosses ^_^ I wonder what changes that might be :D

You only get higher in rank when others get lower. You can't fit 500 people in the top 100.

So, if more than 100 people are gaining stats faster than you are, you'll never make it. It won't be "harder" to catch up, you still have to stay ahead of 99% of the players. Rank goals are tough because you can't just say "I want 15k stats".

TBH the rankings for top pets made no sense when so many people were capped and only intel was making the difference. Now we have a safe few months / year of fun competitive race to reach the new cap.

That is how ranks work yes :P I am only 17 ranks away from being at rank 100! I just have to get there! XD

Yes I have to work harder then the people around my rank to get a few ranks higher. And yes I know, you are right! Most battlers are here very active so unless they quit or I boost my pet much more then them I can get higher. I take it a step at a time, I would be extreemly happy with rank 100 or even 99 __ I dont have to be nr 2 ;)

Haha I hought it was "I don't have to be nr 1" 😜

I feel like I always say this when I go up a rank, but this is as high as it will go. I actually reached it yesterday but the "Rank:#" thing just updated :

YES! You've managed to find all the pieces to my bracelet! To thank you for this, I am giving you one of my very special items!

Hahah lol yes and not nr 2 or nr 50 for that matter, that is just way too far ahead ^_^ One step at a time :D

OH WOWEEE!!! 😱 Congrats on your nr 2 rank!!! Veryyyy impressive!!! <3 <3 <3 Nice build aswell!!!

Thanks ! It always feels very far ahead until it doesn't anymore and you're just there. The build is nothing final, I have over 5k of room to make adjustments. I need health and I didn't have a lot of health boosters stored away. I'm gonna wait a few weeks for the changes to settle down before I re-cap.

I will never get used to how insane you really are... How is the booster market now? I don't even want to look, even less buy.

I don't think the booster market was really hit, but I have been building my booster stash for some time so I didn't pay that much per stat. People don't boost like they used to, they do battle quests now. Maybe the new exp costs will make boosters more expensive a bit, but overall, you don't really need more than 22k stats to beat the opponents anyway. The only thing you may need right now is 6k speed to get proper healing, or more if the heal cap is increased to fit the cap increase.

I haven't tried the new opponents yet, but apparently super buttwings and super RB can hit upwards of 10k even through defensive scrolls. That may require higher healing power, or better shields to eventually counteract.

You are welcome! And yes true, that is so nice ^_^

It seems smart indeed to wait a few weeks. I also am going to think about where to spend my last 3k stats on before i hit tier 13 :P Anyway, good luck to you and your amazing nr 2 pet!

I DO hope that at least the heal cap is lifted. The way it is now is just another hit on the head like so many times before, where you wake up one morning and have travelled a few years back in time. And I am at the 4 k speed - for the Godlies curse/blessing ;) (sorry, can't help it)

hm, all my boosters went into pet 2 and then 3 after the cap :(. Kudos to you for indeed believing and waiting out for the cap raise!

Even as someone with a mere 3k speed, I don't entirely mind about the speed changes. I wish it were a bit more incremental though. :x These massive jumps every 1k, every 3,750,000 EXP, every 144 days of BQs... it feels unrewarding. Let's be honest, speed doesn't do much else of worth. To have to plough in that much time to see results is a bit disheartening.

I was always against the cap raise because I knew it was going to mean lots of grinding. I didn't expect it to be this bad though. A year and a half's worth of grinding just to get back to where I was is simply unacceptable.

The cap was done because you all wanted it. And with it came changes. Not all of us are going to like these changes, but they don't want you to re-cap over night. Why do you need that instant gratification? So now you have something to work towards. It is what it is, you wanted change, it happened.

I'm happy with the raise overall. As someone with no interest in building an army, after reaching cap a couple of weeks ago... at first there was joy! And then it was pretty empty. It's going to take a while to 'fix' my speed but hey, it'll get done one day. I'll see how the changes settle down and work around them.

Also: Prodigy Total Battles: 11

Wins: 10 Losses: 1 Ties: 0

:c Got a lucky crit on battle 9. Boo.

after sitting on it a bit, i think i finally put into words what's bothering me so much about the speed revamp. it still feels like an arbitrary marker you have to hit before you can start training the 'good' stats again. we don't actually see our progress, say by seeing 1 more heal point per 10 speed points. no, we hit an arbitrary marker, are granted the +100 heal we used to have, then nothing more until we hit the next arbitrary marker, which oh by the way is 1000 points from now. kind of brings to mind neopet's weird strength/defense boost system, if you ask me.

i guess i just worry how i'm going to train my pet up to where he's "supposed to be" in speed after all my weapons get nerfed to hell and back. there's no way i'm going to be able to beat the same opponents i used to when kolja's healing for 500 hp between two god weapons. and it's not like i was over here, beating opponents i ought not to have been; i've got a mid-tier 12 pet for christ's sake.