You may have noticed some new information on the item popups, as well as the trades :)! We are now collecting data on the average prices of items, that will be displayed in various areas of the site :D
Over the next few days, this will be improved to show both the daily average (as in, just today) and the monthly average (so if someone trys to increase the value of an item today, you'll be able to tell ;))
December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Inthebr0wn
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Trying to control the Inflation too much.. Its suppose to go up and down.. Sticking a lower price on items that are worth more probably aren't going to help. Maybe if you release more it might.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Ariel
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Guys, I don't think this is for pricing items specifically. It's so you can see if something that was very cheap yesterday went up drasticly, you'll be able to tell right away. It doesn't mean, "price your item at this" or "this is where to get the cheapest one".

It's a ratio. And kind of pointless at the moment, because it doesn't have day-to-day stats yet. It needs a few days to get info.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Golden_Eyes
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wow, that's a really awesome idea! Thanks so much Keith!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Hosui
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they kinda are....cause they all seem to say "not enough data" ....

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

This is made of win

Mostly it's about the pure convenience...you don't know how many items I look at and go "Wow, sweet, but about where is the price range of this thing?"

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Xilicia
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I think it is a good idea but I think all items that sell for over 1 mil should be left out of it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rayen
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They're will always be undercutters, nothing anyone can do about that. People can't wait for anything they have to have the points NOW or never.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Hosui
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i think it will help a bit on trades... where if an average price IS given for that item and the user just writes OFFER in their description... well now you have something to base your offer on

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Tammy
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I stick to the old adage supply and demand, and thats how I price most of my items. Thankfully this dosen't apply to UB items yet, but all it is gonna seem to take is one undercutter pricing something at 1 mil in their shop and people will assume we all have to sell at 1 mil.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rayen
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Here's a good example of the System: Veil 950,000 the trades are over a mill, some near 2-3. They are in shops for a flat mill. saves you 200k or more.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Eelric
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I love it so far... I would like to see it list on my wishlist items... I am constantly looking for anything that might have gone buyable or dropped in priced recently on there would be excellent info on it...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Ariel
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No, Keith has said that it's the average of the lowest price over a time period. Not an average like the autpricer average (i.e. useless).

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Mourningstar
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sighs Okay great. Help those who are buying to not get cheated. Just because it's the average price, still doesn't mean you have to sell it at that price . . . And if a seller is stubborn enough and the item is rare enough, listing the average price really isn't going to do much.

Of course, I'm probably wrong, but that's just my first impression. I'm curious as to how this is all going to work though. With people desperate to sell for pure, only to find out their items are worthless . . . hmm.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Hosui
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YEah...then i would be able to see right away if something from my wishlist in in user shop....rather than having to copy and paste all the item names into shop search

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by asterisk
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Wow, thank you! Hopefully there will be less false inflation now

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Seems pretty cool might deter some people but I doubt that LOL. I wish that we had a place to find out what UB's should be priced at instead of waiting for someone to price it at what they want in the trades. I have loads of things that I dont even know the price of because no one in trades has them priced either. * yes I am a bit new but not too new to get cheated* I only accept on UB trades that I dont know the price of something if they offer something I really really want. Anyways Kudos for the ever helping staff things are improving so much lately!!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rayen
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Thanks for this staff,really! It will help a majority of people not get kicked in the bum when it comes to prices. So much for Overprices.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Tammy
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I don't much care for this idea at all, the average price is just that an average, not the lowest price or even the current price, and some people will hold this as gospel and think that should be the price of the item. This is going to make trading a nightmare.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Tonks
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Rammie; I feel the same as you... people who take care of their things are getting with not so useful things. Presently i feel like a little child that can't do anything on it's own...

diana1096; it would be awful if it was working on the main shops... I mean we would see the Ub on an instant, no good!

Hosui; that would be nice to have it in whish list too, I mean the over thing not like in trades...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

- No, I didn't. I never even included anything referring to just the newbies. And when I was new here, I had some common sense. And just a little of that is enough. I find it remarkable how you managed to twist my post to something that's not even close to what I posted. The key ingredients of falling for "false" inflation are greed and no common sense, not being new.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Sekhmet
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Hooray! ^^ Excellent idea, Keith and Staff! It's a big smack in the face to all those greedy people in the trades!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by RobPankow23
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Rammie - So basically your saying that you think new people deserve to get cheated because they don't know any better?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Hosui
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I wish i could scroll over the items on my wishlist to see what their average today price was

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Taylby
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I've also noticed lately that the official prices in the description are quite outdated - do these every get updated to reflect inflation?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

sugoi....~~ THANK YOU~!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Diana_Marie
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I love it. Now I can stop keeping track! Too bad this doesn't work in the main shops. =P

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Tris
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The one Item in my trades that has enough data is actually correct....so I don't know. I'll have to see when everything's data is gathered.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Sweetie
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I only hope it will stop players from putting really cheap items in the trades that can be sold in their shop instead .

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Personally, I can't see any good in this. Greedy people without common sense will always exist and get owned, no matter how many warnings are given, no matter how much help they recieve. Those people will always find ways to buy cheap items for millions.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by RobPankow23
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0nyx- I understand what you are saying, but this is no different than the auto pricer in shops. Do you distrust the auto pricer also?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Taylby
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I've noticed that the "average price" is actually the lowest price - kind of misleading.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Tris
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QUOTE:

I like it, but some parts are completely wrong, out of question x.x.. My Fiah is now listed at 1m, there are none priced in trades and none buyable in shops, at some point there were none in trades and when they started popping up, they were 30m x.x



I would bet that UB items that really don't have a price might not have been factored in correctly. Technically 1m and 1 sp is UB. So that might be what that's all about. It will probably need some tweeking, but I think once the kinks are worked out, it will serve it's purpose well.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I like it, but some parts are completely wrong, out of question x.x.. My Fiah is now listed at 1m, there are none priced in trades and none buyable in shops, at some point there were none in trades and when they started popping up, they were 30m x.x

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Fringe
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i love this idea! it is very helpful! thanks

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by elf
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Haha, just noticed it when I was checking an item Wizzy gave me. Great idea, guys.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by MeandOnlyMe
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this is wonderful, I love it already, thanks to who ever came up with the idea to do it and many thanks to the one or ones that made it possible. ((huggles))

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Nostalgia_507
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I noticed that in trades. That is a big help! Thanks Keith and staff! bakes a triple batch of oatmeal cookies to give them to the staff ^^ You have earned every cookie

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

I get the feeling unbuyable trades are gonna be a bit more difficult for me to shift

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Rabbit_Insanity
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wow that sounds cool. Weird but cool^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Tris
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It's still gathering data I think. Keith said it would take a few days to get an average going and get things working the way they are intended. I wouldn't rely on the prices just yet.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

i for one will be disregarding this so called average price and set my prices on the availability of the item...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by EMMA_778
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This could be good...assuming it's changed to update constantly. I just hope it doesn't cause too much lag, and it doesn't take up too much space?

Great idea though, and thank you for taking action against inflators!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Great!!! Exactly how i want it!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Tonks
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oh well more annoying thing... I surely hope will will serve it'S purpose....

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Innerdarkness
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is this based solely on shop sales? what about unbuyable trade sales?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

Hmm... =/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Kelpo
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Oh wow. What a nifty addition. Thanks!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Deleted User

the price you are listing as the average price is NOT the average price ... it is in fact the lowest price and as such should read LOWEST PRICE...

i also not that in some cases the price listed is way below the lowest price .. is this because it hasn't caught up yet and will rise to the lowest price listed??????

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by jl77us
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Very very very awesome idea. Thank you so much for such a great site to play on.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by Onyx_635
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Maybe a good idea in theory, but I don't know how it will work in practice. From what I've seen, site prices are really volatile all the time. It's not like average prices stay anywhere near the same for any length of time. Showing an average price and having people try to guage what to pay for a trade from that-- well I don't see how it's practical. Mind you I've only been here a short time but what trades I have had up have been all over the place, price-wise--everything changes because of giveaways, Christmas Presents being opened, etc. This might have people thinking they're being ripped off in a trade when the prices really HAVE changed that much in a few days. But it might make people more leery to bid on trades, or have them offering what will amount to undercutter prices. I don't think it's good for the economy. The item rarities are already shown, that should be enough to help people make choices about the items they want to buy/accept for trade.

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