Subeta -

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Wow! stares I have to admit, I do love the old one and voted against the revamp before, but this version does grab my heart! ^^ I could handle the demi getting this look!
Great job! Can't wait to see other colors now!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

sorry but i really prefer the old one better. it looks more cuter :3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

No problem, Tsume! Also, one possible idea that just came to me... since the shading seems to be the biggest issue, maybe you could check out other new-ish furry pets, such the Montre, Pherret, and perhaps the Spectrum Kerubi, for reference? Just a few examples that came to mind, but I think they all demonstrate a nice, simple, effective shading style that a lot of people seem to like.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Although I liked how angular the old Demi is, the revamp looks more believable as an animal, my only criticism has been said multiple times already (toning down the highlights a bit). I think this is just what the Demi needed. (And I apologize for my horrid grammar.)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like the new one. The little tweeks from the last design really made a difference. It looks great. The shading is very nice.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

LOL. Yesh I am the vampire. fangs grow |D

Thanks angel. ♥
I'm a critique lover and I get sad when I can't read all of them. ;^;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Tsume, my critique was bumped off too, so here's a paste from the version I left on the forum topic. Slightly tweaked because I just remembered a couple additional things. c.c

Some of the smaller things that bug me are the shape of the muzzle (too long and flat on top? or something), the odd shape and placement of the horn (it appears stretched into an oval shape at the base), the arrangement of the spots on the tail in a straight line, and the bushy, poofy fur inside the ears and on the cheeks. But what bugs me most is the shading. As many others said, it looks too shiny and metal- or plastic-like for a fur-covered animal. Also, in my eyes, the dark areas are TOO dark and too randomly placed, making it look sort of muddy. Especially on the face and tail, where the shaded areas are actually outlined. I've never seen a shadow with outlines. HOWEVER, I do think the shape of the tail and volume of the mane looks better than the previous attempt.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

-Blinks- Tsume is that you? xD I thought Aqua was kidding when she said you were a "vampire".

._.; (Yes I'm quite blunt.)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

o.o; On the poll it says I voted for old and I thought I voted for new. Anyways, it scares me when people are saying the revamp is F-A-T. This is one of the things I did not like about the old. The old demi is as thin as a twig, and looked like it could float away with the wind at any moment, while this one actually has some weight on it, and it's still skinny.
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Personally I only think it's the face with the gloss. Everything else is beautifully done.^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

OKAY! I missed alot of critiques.... as the news seems to only show so many.
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So I'm sorry if I missed your critique. Really I am. ;; If you'd personally like to smail me a critique that was bumped off the front of the news you may. Don't mail me if you like or hate it... critiques only! i want to makes sure I got everything. ♥ I can't promise everything will change but I will try to tweak as much as I can. :3

I'll definitely bump down the highlights. xD I run on a laptop so everything is a bit different for me. So thanks for saying that guys. ♥ You don't know how much that helps me. x3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'll just be like everyone else and crit on everything I see! But this time on the OLD version:
The shading, is bad.
The line art is too thick
The tail is way too thin right where it begins
HUGE head, little neck and body
The mane on the top of the head is messed up
The horn looks like it's melted, onto the head.
The horn isn't in the center of the head.

Looking at the new version, all of this is fixed.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The eyes and nose look... distorted somehow. I love the new shading and fur detail, though. But, it looks like it got deformed or something with the face. It doesn't sit right with me.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like this new one. It will be sad to see the other go though. (if it ever does that is) Not meaning that i want to get rid of.
Oh well thats just me and i voted for the new one. ^-^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I voted the new one, it seems much more well done. Especially the fur, shading etc.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

??
...gasp

I didn't mean to point you out, Oba. XD

I didn't know someone exactly said "stop hatin'". ^^; I just typed it cause that's what popped in my mind. XD

This is a something I do mind, beacuse I myself own a Demi, and I feel in love with them on sight when I first joined years ago.
The Demi made me want to play this game.

When the reset happened, I remade my account, I changed the other 2 pets...but I stuck with my Demi, beacuse I love him so. T__T
I guess...he has a...sentimental value that I don't want to part with....even though I know I have to.

SOooOO.....Make the Demi nice, Subeta. Please! ;_;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It was said in jest. I assure you. Constructive opinions are always good as they add more than, "I don't like it" with no reason just as much "I like it" with no reason won't help either

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Yes, please don't say "stop hatin'". The reason for the poll is so we can GIVE opinions. There will be people with different opinions and we aren't all entitled to absolutely LOVE whatever Demi the artists comes out with.
The Demi will be revamped no matter what we do...soo.....might as well have a nice one.

I still like the old Demi more....it's.....SOMETHING with the eyes...I don't like the eyes of the new one. I do however, I do like this one better than the OTHER revamp.
Maybe it's this realistic approach I'm NOT into. The old Demi is like a doll, a little stuffed animal. Old Demi just has a cute factor that overpowers this one. ^^;

Let us see more options! ♥♥

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't think people with positive opinions are bashing in most of these cases, nor do I think negative opinions have no place. I'm speaking only to the people who seem to be operating on the idea that saying they'll cry forever or get rid of all their Demis will improve matters. X) A little bit is okay, in my mind, just as it's okay to say that I'll be excited to see my Demi get an update, but a lot of it doesn't get much done. That's why I suggested people with negative opinions figure out why they like this one less than the old one and offer actual suggestions, rather than sympathy pleas.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I really like this,I think that it keeps the charm of the old Demi,but I would tmake the eyes lighter,or no,maybe take a little of the shine off,that would make it really great,but either way I voted for it,cuz,ITS AWESOME

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like this revamp of the revamp. Although the horn still doesn't look like it's coming form the forehead. It seems like it's somehow pasted on the Demi. (Mayhaps it's the shadow toward the base of the horn that is creating that effect.)
As others have said, the shading/glow/lighting/whatever it might be called still needs fixing. It somehow doesn't look right.
Otherwise, I love the furry, fuzzy, wuzzy creature with it's pretty blue eyes and furry tail and pretty markings and I must hugitandhugitandhugit and not hyperventilate.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I will admit, it looks wonderful.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Mmm, I still like the old version :/ Just pleases me more than the new one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

One might also say it's the people with the POSITIVE opinions who are creating the melodrama.

Well, that would be pushing it, but some of the people who like the revamp are bashing the people who don't a little more than would make sense if they think it's "no big deal".

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Woah, I don't get why if someone has a negative opinion, that makes them a horrible person O_o; everyone's entitled to their opinions, after all. The people making melodrama of it, yeah, that's ridiculous, but if someone genuinely doesn't like it... why shouldn't they be allowed to say why? /swt

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

As much as I love the old Demi (one of the first pets I ever got :0), I truly respect this revamp.

It looked a little odd at first glance, but it very much grew on me after further examination... I'd be quite pleased if this one went through.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I dislike the new Demi.
It doesn't look nearly as cute.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

So Tsume-kins knows I hate cats, at least, I think she does. Anyhow, hate cats. And Demis are cats.... But this, this actually makes me think maybe cats aren't so bad, because this cat is not the spawn of evil. In fact, tis rather handsome, and I like it a whole lot....
...Not that I'd ever get one... I don't like cats that much, but still, Tsume has made me likes cats. That's saying something.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Omigosh. It looks so much better!
So... so alive-looking. 8D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Tsume = Vampire on subeta now.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

PhoenixAutura, thats so childish... sorry.
"I'm going to cry so much if the demi gets revamped"
so you would cry this or the other way... i think i got that while reading all. Demis will be revamped, the question is just "how"!?

but why i actually came here:
who is that artist "Tsume"?
the user Tsume does not look like it is the one i search for...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The old Demi is awful.

It was drawn several years ago, and then it was fine, but with the constantly evolving art of Subeta, it has fallen far behind. It needs and update, and no amount of whining about how omg neko kawaii the old one is will change that.

Personally, I would like a medium between the current eye, and the eye that was proposed. Perhaps just a bit of a reduction in the shine, now that I think about it, so we could see a bit more of the lovely colour.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

This one I REALLY like. It has all the charm and wildness of the old one, and has a good update on the basic design. It also took care of the "stiffness" in both the old and preliminary designs by planting it's feet apart a bit.
This is a beautiful render of it.

And the rest of you, stop the hatin' =P

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Personally I like MC's edits very much and would like it if the spots were a little bit bigger. Nice work

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm going to cry so much if the demi gets revamped, and I'm guessing it will since they put so much effort into it that they did it twice... The old one is just awesome. I love it. I used to collect all the plushies and beanbags as well as the elixirs, since I don't have any demi pets... but after they redid the items (minus the elixirs) I had to sell them all. It's just plain ugly in my eyes.

The new one sort of looks like a goon. Wish I could be more constructive in my criticism...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Wow.. I can't beleive some of the hostility towards this... Only thing I'd really like to ask is that DM doesn't change... it's fairly new anyway, looks very up to date, and I adore it more than anything...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

This is looking SO much better, Tsu-Tsu! X3 The mane is looking so soft now, not like stiff quills... The tail's looking fluffier, the horn's not so scary now...

The only problem I can see is the overall....shine/gloss, like others have already mentioned.

I can't wait to see all the revamped versions (well, those receiving them, anyhow).

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Augh, ate my comment.

Also, dude, guys. The melodrama isn't a good way to persuade anyone to keep or leave the old art. It's just that--melodrama. :/ Saying "it's not the Demi I fell in love with! My e-life is over!" does not...reflect so well on people who do it.

So yeah. If you don't like the new art at all, figure out why and voice your concerns constructively rather than bellyaching. The old art was very far from perfect, and this at least is a step toward that, IMO.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

eww no i dont like the new one its fat and not cute :/ the old one was realy smart tho :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Now that I think about it, the "gloss" issue mostly has to do with the brightest of the highlights--namely they're very thin, sharp-edged lines where they should (per light shining on a substance that's not high-gloss, like fur) be more diffuse. Right now, as I said, it looks like polished plastic or even metal, and that doesn't quite sit right with my mental image of fur.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love MysticCookie's revamp of her revamp. The eyes are absolutely lovely and lively. I recently adopted my friend's Demi, so I'm very glad to see an update!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I really liked the old one better this new one looks too shiny!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The face is entirely different - I don't like the muzzle. In general, it's a little too fluffy/pudgy for my tastes.

It's beautiful, don't get me wrong. The shading is gorgeous. But the artist needs to keep it simple.

Remove all the "fluff" to reveal a fresher and beautiful version of the simple Demi people loved. You're almost there .

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The highlight on the upper lip is a bit troublesome, and I still want the spots to be bigger, but other than that I really like this. XD

The only other issue I have is...well, it's common to a lot of the revamped pets, and that's the shading/highlighting makes them look too "glossy". Like the fur's not fur, it's plastic, or something similar. This works fine on pets like the Torrent, but the high-gloss doesn't work so well on the Wyllop or this revision of the Demi.

SO looking forward to Arubedo getting a makeover. (Can I beg and plead for the Arid color scheme to get with the program and have purple/magenta eyes like most other arid pets? ?)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

mysticcookie:
don't know... like the dark eyes, and would have left at least a little of the darker nose shadow. :/
the eyebrow/marking change appeales to me, it makes the demis look a little softer (less male?). ^^
zipps mouth and tries first to reach that drawing level

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love this and some of the tweeks Mystic did . The demi really needed an update, just...don't change the chibi x-x;;;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't understand how a picture change completely ruins a pet for someone...It's still the same pet. Same name. Same personality you created for it.

And there are items being revamped every day... They're still the same items, right? Drawing a hot dog differently doesn't make it a hot dog anymore.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

the wider stripe makes it looks nice!
i wish mystic made the spots bigger though. the markings are too small!!

OTHERWISE, iloveit!!!! ♥

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Sari liked Tsume's origianal revamp a whole lot more. There's something about the face, mane and ears that really put me off... Fortunately, I can live with it, because it would be -very- expensive to go turn all nine of my Demis into Telenines or something. sigh Nope. Still doesn't look like it'll fit with my Demis. Oh well. More reasons to hate the majority.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Princess_Isho got it right. My first pet was also a Demi, and there are reasons why they've been my favorite species ever since I signed up here 2 years ago. With this revamp, no matter how pretty the art style may be, those reasons go out the window. It's just not the Demi I fell in love with. It's not that I'm against change; I adore the Torrent, Bovyne, and Escalade revamps. I just don't like THIS change. I salute Tsume for the work she put into this, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

Not that it really matters. The staff likes it, and the most vocal commenters like it, so no matter what the vote count says it will probably end up going through. Might as well start planning a new look and personality for Thaeus now...

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