Subeta -

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

huggles robotoi

Darlin you've done a better job than I could have done XD. I admire your skill and I hope that some of these people who are presuring you stop and realize that your not getting paid for this. You vouenteered your time and energy and skill to redo these.

I say they're all gorgeous, half you buggers are too picky, and if you don't like how they look then you can all darn well try and redraw them on your own.

scowls softly, and then claps for robotoi

Kudos hun, you did a good job.

~Salem

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Thanks for caring robotoi!! Seriously, I was waiting for when someone would color a common color cream for the Keeto, glad it finally has one! ^o^ Their eyes are very nicely colored and the colors are brighter IMO for all the common colors..

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The recolors look fine.
Also. To the comment on the whole revamp thing, Are you kidding me? An extremely talented artist did the original design for the keetos, her artwork isn't outdated or no longer Subeta style. So why would such a great pet need a redraw? The other pets chosen for redraws had shading or lineart, or anatomy that was inadequate for the site. (IE: The kumo's gelatin simalarities, the fester/torrey/pherret's forms and unpopularity) The keeto remains beautiful artwork, though I am not to be biased.. there are always flaws. The current recolors are a bit flawed around the aura or outline, but it's hard to replicate or trace the original design.. and each artist has a different outlook, and perspective. Also, the continued jabs at the artwork without any show of aspects you do like.. it just shows completely worthless opinions to me. Please don't tell me you lack postive critique because you fear it may hamper your chances of getting your way. (For those of you hoping for the keetos to go back) And regardless of your opinions, if Kelpie/Keith.. or anyone with proper authority wants the pets to remain recolored, they will stay. So a pessimistic attitude insulting an artist does nothing.

So, for those of you with comments that show the pros as well as the cons of the recolor, I respect you. Otherwise, try to mature some before attempting to critique artwork. =) So, any worthy comments? (Due to the current dismal amount, I would hope to see at least more than a few respectable users)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I dont mean to be snippy, seriously.

This is just so frustrating for us artists. I.E. People getting their undies in a twist when something is redrawn/drawn not to their liking.

It's just, I wish you would take into consideration my own limitations before blabbing off about all the things wrong with it. I know quite well that I can't make it perfect; but I was the only one willing to do it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Dude.

I'm so sorry that I couldn't create an EXACT replica of the old one. I don't have a tablet, or a really nice graphics program, and that leaves me with a roller ball mouse and the ever so nifty pen tool. I'm sorry I can't perfectly taper the lines and all that jazz but what on earth. Are you serious? I was the only artist who actually cared enough to try and get a cream keeto done, which was impossible via the old image. If you beg to differ, I ask you to go trace one then. There were so many problems with the old versions, each color being slightly different, some pixellated, parts in the tail not fully colored, open mouths on some, filtered color, etc that I just asked if I could try and re line them.

But it is nice to know that all these people who probably never gave a second look at the more common colored keetos have something to say though.

Be honest, for my sake. When you look at it, is it really THAT horrible?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

.__. I myself think that the Keeto needs a total revamp thing xD I mean compaired to the new Kumos, Montre and well who am I kidding nearly every awesome pet on this site they look a bit flat.I just think that if they were re-drawn they would look just awesome < 33.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm glad the default hasn't been changed...I guess I'll make my would-have-been twilight keeto into a default one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love the eyes on my Baal now! Mixes with twilight color very well!! ^o^
Just wish the aura at the end of the pic was like the original, just seems a little off, other than that, I'm all cool with it! ^___^

Now only Darkmatter for Baal now...XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Also dusk and gold have yet to be revamped as well. Gold still has an open mouth as well. You can compare those two with the others. The aura is off and shaky not at all as smooth as dusk.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I admit I don't own a Keeto, but I've been planning to get one for a long time (soon as I settle on a name), so I've been taking a lot of close looks at the species lately.

And I hate to say it, but no, they weren't traced exactly. : It's obvious they were traced, but not exactly. The lines now look stiff and choppy, not smooth and natural like before (tapered at the ends, etc). The other big differences are the more blackened and rounded eye-depressions and the upper lip, which had that cat-like slight cleft before, but has now been rounded out. Subtleties, yes, but they can make all the difference in a pet's personality.

Please don't be offended, Kelpie or Robotoi - I know this revamp took a lot of work. I am happy that they all have closed mouths now; that inconsistency drove me nuts before. And the eye colors are beautiful. But I just don't think the rest of this revamp was necessary. : Wouldn't it have been easier to take a lineart template from a closed-mouth color and apply the same old colors (and new eyes) to that to fix the open-mouths?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I agree... the slight difference changes their demeanor even though it's subtle. With an animated style of art, even a slight change in the degree of how the eyes are angled can mean mountains of difference as far as the emotion being shown goes. That's why redrawing a pet like this, even when retracing over it exactly, is so difficult I think. @@; I don't blame Robotoi for the tiny change, it's not easy to do something like this. :/ But the difference is definately evident.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

-sigh- ._- The two are different, to some people it may not seem like much, but they differ a good bit.

Just look at the muzzle form for a moment, and the area around the eye, ignore the fact that they're smiling. The bloodred one doesn't look as pudgy, and it doesn't have that much black around it's eyes like the cream one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love Keeto

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Nice work robotoi.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

No, some were smiling, some had straight faces, and others were smiling with their mouths open, so we chose a pose and made them all alike.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't think they were all smiling before... it's a bit scary. o.o

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm sorry. I see no difference between common and bloodred other than one is smiling and the other is not...which has always been that way.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

:/ Kelpie, they were NOT traced exactly. Compare the Bloodred Keeto, which wasn't updated, with, say, the cream one.

These Keetos look... too cheerful, not the eerie, ghostly we were all used to. D: Seriously now, the old Keeto looks like it wanted to play volleyball with your soul if you dared to get too close to it, this one's just crying out to be hugged...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I also agree with Saga -- the redraws look very.. cute-ish. Too child-like. I liked the sharper outlines that the old Keeto had as well.. these ones look quite choppy. To me, the eyes look very odd, and little too boldly colored on the Twilight Keeto. Instead of looking at you in a sort've indirect way, they stare upwards with a happy smile and.. well, it just doesn't look like a Keeto.

I'm not trying to knock on Robotoi, but I do like the old Keeto's better. Verac spent a looong while as a common Keeto (with plans to turn Graveyard), and I didn't personally think they needed a redraw.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Point taken, Dokuja, but my Katana was a basic Keeto before zapping. He was going to be some kind of Keeto when he was done if the zapper wasn't kind, but I was aiming for Bloodred Keeto... which did not get revamped with the rest of these (that's how I compared them) so I guess they are intending to give it a more dymanic pose like some of the other BR pets. -shrug- So I don't own one, I just liked them a lot. But my favorite isn't apparently changing anyway, at least not in the same way. >.>;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I really..really..hate this D: Honestly, credit to whoever tried to make them look better..but they were fine the way they are. I don't care that the eye colors were the same or the mouths were different, they just look..bad now. I'm sorry, seriously, but I'm just stating my opinion.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Whatever problems are on these keetos are on the old ones too. They were traced exactly. Perhaps more contrast can be given to field's eyes if it's that big of a problem.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Seriously guys, chill out. You'll all forget about this in a week anyway

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Eesh.

I personally feel that the body looks a little flat (but then, it did in the previous version too), but otherwise, I don't see much of a problem. Perhaps making the eyes contrast a bit more sharply with the body colour (ie. in the field, it looks almost like it's just been green filtered)? It was always strange that some mouths were open and others closed, so it's nice to see some consistency there.

How many of you even own basic colour Keetos?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Wow, looks great! I love the blue eyes against the cream-colored fur. Nice job!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Yay! I was about to say they were looking really choppy but now they have been fixed, yey

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

-Drool-

I want one.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I completely agree with Dickie.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Aw. Cream Keeto pretty. Takkeh like. <3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

points at white edges on frontpaw stripes in shadowareas Was that bevore? ^^"
They (thier outlines) look a little more blured to me now... like the Clawsions... XD

Like the colours of the new cream one though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

What should've been done is the hue of a closed mouthed keeto should've been changed to each of the desired colours...then for each the eye copied onto a new layer...change the hue of it on that layer...place the copied re-coloured eye over the original...et voila!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

They're really good, and I love the colors on the cream keeto, plus the lilac colors are much better... but the lineart looks a bit shaky and untapered... D:

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Well I -did- like the Keeto... '

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

the field's eyes have changed colour and instead of a complimenting greenish tone they just look like a washed out version of the body colour...a bit like on the field tigrean

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The field should be the exact same colors?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I agree Saga, they look cutified and round in the face...they look like younger less lean keetos.
cries in a corner

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

If you look at them side by side with the old ones they've actually changed a lot...especially the face. This makes me sad. I loved keetos (so glad I made my dawn one spectrum) but now they look kinda amaturish in quality.
Also, the field looks very monotone and flat now.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I like the closed mouths a lot more. ^^
Though, the faces look a little less...evil now? I think because the nose is more rounded and less catlike, makes them look a bit goofy. o.O Same with the black around the eyes being more rounded and less slanted. They just always seemed like ominous, ghostly things before.
That lilac color is just beautiful though. ^__^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The only one that really changed noticably, Jenn, were Sun and perhaps Dawn. The rest only had subtle changes like their eye colors. The eye colors made a huge difference to me though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Wow. I'm not exactly sure what changed, but they look loads better now! That field one is quite gorgeous.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Ewww they've been relined and look kinda gross D:

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Ah, sorry, but... I prefer the old looks, even with the open mouths and all.

But I'm sure robotoi gave her best on this. I can immagine how hard it is to "redraw" a pet color like this.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

My new favorites.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I just have to say that recolors are every bit as difficult as drawing a pet from scratch, and robotoi deserves some special thanks.

All keetos have their mouths closed now, and the eyes are GORGEOUS.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

cool soo cute !

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Aww.. So cute!
Hehe, it looks a lil' chocolatey, too..with that brown, there.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

*1st

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

!st comment,pretty.

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