Subeta - Armory Sorting Project

Armory Sorting Project - FAQ

February 14, 2022 2:36 pm

Thank you all for already sorting over 11,000 items for the battle system! I wanted to post some more information for y'all, such as answers from the comments or staff discussions, in a new post for visibility. Please feel free to ask or comment on this post as well, and join in on the project here if you're just starting.

What is this for? :dmg:dark: The battle system is over a decade old, based heavily on Neopets system, and has a lot of room for improvement. This sorting is step 1/100 to just kind of show us where we are with the items that we've got now. Expect a lot more requests for feedback as we figure out changes to make to the battle system!

I wasn't sure where to put something, or I made a mistake on sorting. Am I going to get in trouble? :dmg:dark: [/b]It's not about right or wrong. We're opening this up to everyone so that we can use the average of answers. Please don't stress yourselves or worry![/b] Does the description or size of it make you think it should be two-handed even if it's one-handed in the overlay? Either one works, then! Does it not have an aura in the image but the description mentions magic? You can mark it as magical or not, whatever vibes.

This doesn't fit into an existing category, are new ones going to be added? :dmg:dark: Not in this round, since we already opened it up, but we can do more rounds of sorting with new options and prizes for y'all in the future. If you have doubts or aren't sure, marking it as 'other' is entirely okay!

Why are color-changing potions and plushies in the tagging pool? :dmg:dark: Subeta briefly had a PvP battle aspect where potions could be thrown at pets (and change their color). This is no longer available, but that's why they're showing up. Other things may have been tagged as battle items by accident. Potions, plushies, books, or other strange items can be sorted into the complete 'other' category and we can fix it from there.

What's in this for me? :dmg:dark: You get a shiny new avatar border at 250 items sorted, 1000 sP for each item sorted, and our thanks for your help!

I found a spelling error or other problem that needs to be fixed in the item's name or description, or I think something about it needs to be changed. :dmg:dark: Please use this form to report it!

February 14, 2022, 7:23 pm by

It's after the sparkle emote next to the word 'Magical?' Alas, for me no - only in my imagination.

February 14, 2022, 6:53 pm by

There should be a magic weapon category, for tomes and orbs and even some familiars items. :)

February 14, 2022, 6:47 pm by

I’m only sad that I can’t see how many I’ve done thus far. Not because I want the border (I do) but because I like to be able to keep count for scale purposes.

February 14, 2022, 6:35 pm by

So is everything put into Other: Other supposed to be things that shouldn't be weapons? I've been putting things like battling minions such as the Battle Crow and Fury in that category.

February 14, 2022, 6:24 pm by

Am i missing the held category? I am marking them other under worn because I don't think it would go in the gloves category

February 14, 2022, 6:13 pm by

Yes, you don't need to battle! Just have an opinion on what category something fits into when you see it.

February 14, 2022, 5:55 pm by

Too easy for some maybe, for those of us with ADHD it's a grind! Though I'm discovering some REALLY cool items I never knew existed, so that's fun! :D

February 14, 2022, 5:13 pm by

Not to shoot anyone in the foot here but 250 was kinda too easy...Maybe we could get a second tier for either double or more items sorted?

February 14, 2022, 5:12 pm by

Sorting the weapons has nothing to do with actually battling thankfully! You just need to be able to know what a sword is pretty much. It’s just looking at the item and deciding which category fits best for the weapon/armour.

February 14, 2022, 4:47 pm by

One border I'll be missing out on bc I have no idea anything to do with battling lol

February 14, 2022, 4:31 pm by

Is there some way to see how many items we've sorted?

February 14, 2022, 4:19 pm by

oh man i forgot about the battle colour potions, incredible

February 14, 2022, 4:08 pm by

How would you sort quills?

February 14, 2022, 4:05 pm by

Glad to be helping!! :)

February 14, 2022, 4:00 pm by

Ah! yes! One of the things I'll be bringing up is changing the buttons to make it more visible. As says (thank you!) It's after the sparkle emote next to the word 'Magical?'

February 14, 2022, 4:00 pm by

Thank you, Sigma, you were right I can't see the check box in my browser.

February 14, 2022, 3:58 pm by

"[...]potions could be thrown at pets (and change their color)."

that's wild LMAO

February 14, 2022, 3:54 pm by

it might be hard to see in your browser. There's a checkbox next to the sparkle emote that you can check off.

February 14, 2022, 3:51 pm by

Magical? ✨ Is this item magical? Does it have an aura?

Better Question: Where do I answer this?

February 14, 2022, 3:47 pm by

I would say list Orbs, Staffs, and Wands as magic as they are traditionally used as magic ranged weapons. Everything else tends to be physical, unless there is clearly some magic imbued properties, such as a sword with magical in the name. There's really no right answer, since all the weapons do elemental damage of some sort.

February 14, 2022, 3:45 pm by

Categories I suggest for a future follow-up:

Polearms (spears, tridents, halberds, pikes, lances, etc.) Daggers (kukri, knives, sai, dagger, sporks) Scythes/Sickles (these are a special category as they are not a traditional weapon) Flails (ball and chain weapons, nunchucks, whips, kusarigamas) Blunt (clubs, hammers, bats, maces* etc.) Melee (biting, clawing, gloves used for fisticuffs or close combat, kicking, general catch-all) Tomes (typically magic-based scrolls or books used for summoning or spells)

*maces are already a category but it is incorrect to list a club as a mace! A mace has the trademark spikes on the end to inflict cuts in addition to blunt force trauma.

February 14, 2022, 3:42 pm by

Thank you for the list

February 14, 2022, 3:41 pm by

Think of that as an OR question, not an AND. If the image or the overlay have a colored-in effect or a shiny one, or if you feel the description indicates magical, you can say 'yes' to it. Or if you think there's just poetic license, or pretty art involved, you don't have to put that it's magical. Just kinda vibe with the idea and go with what you like best.

February 14, 2022, 3:40 pm by

It would be very helpful if you put a link to this on the News sidebar. Please and thank you. :)

February 14, 2022, 3:36 pm by

Magical? ✨ Is this item magical? Does it have an aura?

How do you answer this?

February 14, 2022, 3:36 pm by

Good to examine what is currently in place and what works/doesn't work!

February 14, 2022, 3:35 pm by

[Spoiler=List of Weapons not Equipable] [Item=Angelic Potion] [Item=Arid Potion] [Item=Arsenic-Laced Peanut Butter Cookie] [Item=Bitter Heart Charm] [Item=Black Ring] [Item=Blackmoons Cursed Moonrock] [Item=Bloodlusting Love] [Item=Bloodred Potion] [Item=Box of Untold Secrets] [Item=Captured Pixie] [Item=Cream Potion][Item=Dawn Potion] [Item=Demonic Wings][Item=Dusk Potion][Item=Essence of Plutonium] [Item=Evil Pizza][Item=Evil Potion][Item=Fatal Crocrystal] [Item=Field Potion][Item=Gold Potion][Item=Grotesquely Long Tongue] [Item=Iron Highheel Boot][Item=Magma Rock][Item=Mysterious Pie] [Item=Kerbunfru Orb][Item=Lilac Potion][Item=Magical Bone] [Item=Mystical Glowing Orbs][Item=Nuclear Potion][Item=Reborn Potion] [Item=Scroll of The Stars][Item=Spectrum Potion][Item=Sun Potion] [Item=Turkey Elixir][Item=Twilight Potion] [/spoiler]

February 14, 2022, 3:28 pm by

Cool we get a new battle system sweet!! Thanks Subeta Staff!! By the way I hope everyone is having a wonderful Valentine's Day!!!!

February 14, 2022, 3:24 pm by

The weapon guide can really help with the categories! I have the Mecha and it is a bomb, in case someone did not know. I did learn some interesting facts though. :)

February 14, 2022, 3:22 pm by

I'm not really a battler, but I am pretty excited about these updates! I may have to try my hand at it more soon. Thanks for letting us be involved! :)

February 14, 2022, 3:16 pm by

Shoving those under 'other', since we don't have an option for them just yet, is going to work. We can make reviewing the 'other' category a project in itself.

February 14, 2022, 3:07 pm by

It's driving me batty that there isn't an option for daggers. LOL!

February 14, 2022, 3:05 pm by

Thanks for the clarification! Sorting has been fun, and it's always nice to get a chance to contribute.

February 14, 2022, 3:05 pm by

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm having a super fun time doing this! It feels good to help out with little things like this.

February 14, 2022, 3:02 pm by

Thanks again. I look forward to seeing battling veer away from Neopets and into Subeta's own brand!

Two big things I'd love to see, which are likely way down the road: Somehow make it simpler/easier to understand so that new to battling players can dive in without getting overwhelmed. Concerning the crazy expensive weapons that people like for their clothing overlay--would it be possible to split said items into weapon and clothing (two items) so the clothing item could be more freely rereleased while the weapon retains its rarity balance? (and anyone who owns said item gets both the weapon and clothing items)

February 14, 2022, 3:01 pm by

Thank you for reminding me that I hadn't included the link! Go here to start.

February 14, 2022, 3:00 pm by

You can start on it here! I've also edited in and labeled the link more clearly based on the questions.

February 14, 2022, 2:47 pm by

I have a question. Where and how can I take part in this? :)

February 14, 2022, 2:44 pm by

Likely not right now, but this is the first of many battle-related projects.

February 14, 2022, 2:44 pm by

How do I contribute? Is there a URL link?

February 14, 2022, 2:44 pm by

This project is a great way to involve the community while achieving a shared goal: progress. Kudos. 👌

February 14, 2022, 2:39 pm by

Thank you! 😊

February 14, 2022, 2:39 pm by

This is great, it's nice to be able to help out.

February 14, 2022, 2:39 pm by

Are there going to be 'tiers' to this? For achievements? Like the 250 being the first tier, then maybe 500 for a second tier, and so on? Because I'm at work and I'm bored, lol.

February 14, 2022, 2:39 pm by

Thanks for the update!

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