FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT (Hoarfrost)

Hoarfrost is back and angrier than ever. You'll be able to battle him until 11:59pm on January 31st. That is... if you can find him.

January 13, 2022, 5:49 pm by Asherah
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one day I'll remember to battle train my pets consistently

January 13, 2022, 5:40 pm by Victoria
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Yup I agree the beanbag should have went out in a different manner. A free gift would have been most idea since it was originally supposed to be a free item via Melody. Also totally unrelated but is there any word on how Keith is doing? Was just a little worried since its been over two weeks since he said he had covid.

January 13, 2022, 5:40 pm by indica
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"""technically free""" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting here considering the hundreds of millions of sP it costs to raise a battler to tier 12 and outfit them with the appropriate weapons and scrolls

i empathize with the people upset about the sloth, it's a cute beanbag and doesn't even match the aesthetic of the opponent it drops from. it should have just been a free holiday gift like it was originally supposed to be, come on lol

January 13, 2022, 5:39 pm by METROID
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Also you guys forget that there are plenty of battlers with high tier pets who can get the loot. And then sell it. Right?

January 13, 2022, 5:37 pm by METROID
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HE LIVES?!

January 13, 2022, 5:18 pm by Bliss
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I think I saw that post somewhere. There are a few unreleased Holiday items.

I was wondering if we can get some not so hard challengers. In the mid 5-15k range?

January 13, 2022, 5:03 pm by Avel
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I also like the challenger loot being "technically free" when battlers invest so much time and money into battling. I quit battling because to was too expesnive for my taste.

January 13, 2022, 4:15 pm by Nicola
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"We have a free item we forgot to send out, where shall we put it?"

"How about this super hard challenger that most people can't beat, that will cost a fortune in training and weapons?"

Yeah.. great plan.

January 13, 2022, 3:51 pm by Marissa
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"The only choices were between this challenger loot the majority of the site has no chance of achieving and BHH."

fr

free gift is right there

January 13, 2022, 3:36 pm by Trickster
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Whose idea was it to place an item that was supposed to be "free" as a challenger loot? (And not just any challenger, one that not everyone can defeat 5 times)

I'm glad I didn't collect beanbags but as fond of battles, I think is unfair for the rest of users since originally was a "holiday item"

January 13, 2022, 3:26 pm by WolfeNomad
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Yes! Got it afterward! I did not want to double post and could not edit, so I waited for another comment. Thank you! And here, I did my part! I got a few little hits on him :D 27467 / 27500

January 13, 2022, 3:19 pm by usagi
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you have to click on the 'event' tab here: https://subeta.net/games/battle/challenge.php

January 13, 2022, 3:14 pm by WolfeNomad
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Ok, being so new (and so naïve, lol) HOW do I battle this guy? I can not find him in my opponents. Is the card something I have to buy? Yeah, yeah, I know if I try to battle I will lose, but it is just for fun.

January 13, 2022, 3:10 pm by usagi
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Just one thing I noticed .. "People provided feedback" Where though? No one posted in my suggestion thread on-site, so was this subeta discord or another thread I missed? /shrug

January 13, 2022, 3:08 pm by Ghostface
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SPOILER (click to toggle) man, as a relatively newer player i feel like this beanbag release is the latest in a string of situations or decisions that have left me feeling a little wary about investing into this site like i really want to. i'm more than understanding of how much passion and hard work must go into taking care of and preserving a site like this and i have a lot of gratitude and respect for that, but it doesn't sit right to see 'people were going to be unhappy no matter what' used as reasoning for making a collection item far less accessible in a way that directly goes against what users were already told and were expecting. it is what it is at this point, but it's pretty off-putting and i just hope this is handled differently in the future.

in keeping with the actual theme of the news post, though, good luck to everyone battling! this guy will probably still be too tough for me another year from now. 😅

January 13, 2022, 3:04 pm by Trees
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There's not point in arguing anymore, it's just something to consider for the next time an unreleased item that we see in the directory is going to be re-purposed.

January 13, 2022, 2:57 pm by Faizh
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the furious ice giant drops a sloth beanbag. L M A O

January 13, 2022, 2:51 pm by Kyocera
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Can we have a few easier challengers please? 😬

January 13, 2022, 2:44 pm by Arte
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seems like kinda an awkward drop...not that I'll ever be able to battle him. Doesn't really fit with his aesthetic.

January 13, 2022, 2:42 pm by Oizumi
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Great, another battle event.... so inventive, creative...

January 13, 2022, 2:27 pm by jKat
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Damn he is strong! I'll have to re tweak the weapons and Scrolls, when I have more time. I still can't access forums from my phone.... So annoying. Any tips, I'm happy for people to comment me.

January 13, 2022, 2:25 pm by usagi
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I'm kind of miffed the beanbag was released this way. I was the user Amber replied to when I queried the unreleased beanbag and was told it was going in a special shop. It and another unreleased beanbag were stopping me from getting the "completed beanbag" achievement and I didn't think it was fair? Oh, well, I suppose now I have a goal to work toward? Yay, goals? :'D

January 13, 2022, 2:24 pm by SillyCat81
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OOOH Thank you!!! He's pretty cool and his drops are lovely :)

January 13, 2022, 2:21 pm by Floriography
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This is a joke right? You promise a special shop and then throw it as a BATTLE CHALLANGE ITEM? It's not even a challanger everyone could beat... wow this is actually wild. I can't belive this was solution that was thought up...like wow. How is a battle challanger even remotely close to a special shop? Pretty disappointed in this whole thing to be honest.

January 13, 2022, 2:08 pm by Bliss
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We didn't even get to do MM. There have been no updates about it. And honestly people breaking promises is just expected. It's over used as an excuse?

January 13, 2022, 2:01 pm by boy
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And yet again staff breaks a promise 🙄 and we are still expected to believe them BHH would be much better as it is a shop, even if it's a really scarce one

January 13, 2022, 1:50 pm by Amber
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The reason it didn't go out via Melody was because I honestly messed up the days, there was one set of items too many (we specifically planned for 2 a night and 2 under the tree this year). There were two items left over from the previous year I used near the start that threw off the whole count, I figured out later (like ... after the holiday was over and couldn't go back to adjust a night :))

January 13, 2022, 1:50 pm by FCoD
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Well, poor Holly, that didn't go her way at all.

January 13, 2022, 1:45 pm by Laurey
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I will say it would have been kind of funny if it had been added to the Blue Building, since it's not blue. Blame it on shipping errors or something, would have also explained why it was late for Lumi. :P

January 13, 2022, 1:39 pm by Laurey
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There was no way this item was going to go out where everyone was happy
Well, I think if the items in question had initially been tacked on to one of the days in December as an extra Melody's Cottage item and just have a couple of days where there were 3 items instead of 2, that would have been the ideal situation if that's what they were originally intended for (I realize mistakes happen and it could have been overlooked or something, and it's too late to go back and change it now).

I'm not going to argue the point much, but I do feel like the item is a bit out of place with this challenger though. Yes there is the winter theme, but the beanbag is specifically festive for Lumi which is already over by this point, so it's a bit of an odd fit.

Stuff to consider for the future I suppose, it is what it is now.

January 13, 2022, 1:37 pm by Amber
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And that's completely fine for you to be upset about that. I knew no matter how this was released, it was going to ruffle feathers. The important thing was to get it out there in some way.

January 13, 2022, 1:32 pm by Trees
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I'm not even that desperate for the beanbag, I just think it's unfair that we were told it would be in a special shop and then it wasn't

January 13, 2022, 1:32 pm by Amber
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Yes, I did change my mind and release it a different way. People provided feedback that the items were intended to go out via melody (which is free) changing to a shop where they pay was not ideal. I get that. I tried with one item as battle loot because a. winter theme b. you aren't paying for it technically c. it was otherwise going to be thrown in the BHH where people would complain about never seeing it. There was no way this item was going to go out where everyone was happy, but I also did promise it would go out in some way instead of just sitting dead on the site.

January 13, 2022, 1:30 pm by Bliss
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I remember seeing it as a Holiday item. Don't feel bad, though. Many people won't be able to get the beanbag. I'm included lol

January 13, 2022, 1:28 pm by Bliss
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I honestly thought the beanbag would be an item that everyone can get via Crystal shop n.n

January 13, 2022, 1:27 pm by Trees
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It still feels like you went back on a promise. I know I can't be the only one who feels this way. I really thought it would be in the Token Shop like the other item, since it's been over a week since that happened.

January 13, 2022, 1:23 pm by Amber
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SPOILER (click to toggle) Yes, it was meant to be included. I had plans originally just for a special shop but with the winter themed challenger, it seemed a better fit.

January 13, 2022, 1:22 pm by Trees
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Quote by https://subeta.net/news.php?act=comments&newsid=21277
I promised they would go out via special shops after being added to the site but not used

Just in case you needed any proof. 5th win loot for a difficult challenger is not a special shop. I would have preferred it to be in BHH (mentioned in the full comment) over this.

January 13, 2022, 1:22 pm by Avel
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[Spoiler]Not a fan of the way the beanbag is going out.

And still bo MM for the other collectibles stuck in limbo too. [/spoiler]

January 13, 2022, 1:15 pm by HYPEBEAST
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Dead after 2 hits... Yeah, nope.

January 13, 2022, 1:13 pm by SheDevil
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The beanbag was originally labeled as a Melody item I dont see how battling a super strong opponent is a place for it. Im an avid beanbag collector and will never be able to get this

January 13, 2022, 1:09 pm by Silvy
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Will the Unstable Snow Fairy ever return? :(

January 13, 2022, 12:53 pm by Trees
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SPOILER (click to toggle) Wait, was the beanbag meant to be included as loot? I mean, cause he's a really difficult challenger that many users don't stand a chance against and you also said it would be in a special shop like the ice skates were. I'm kind of disappointed at this, cause now I'll never be able to get it, not even from the Free Shop

January 13, 2022, 12:41 pm by hannahharmin
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Never mind! I didn't check under my event tab to see if I already had opened him previously. He's WAY too tough for me to beat this year!

January 13, 2022, 12:39 pm by hannahharmin
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Are you suppose to play Ice Fields or just stand there at the beginning ? I haven't found him yet.

January 13, 2022, 12:34 pm by -HyperBlossom-
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thanks for the link honey!!

January 13, 2022, 12:27 pm by Laurey
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5th win loot (with a particular special item included)

SPOILER (click to toggle) Hoarfrost drops: Frost Essence

Festive Sloth Beanbag

Cursed Ice Shard

Forever Frozen Shot

January 13, 2022, 12:15 pm by Wesker
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I would be angry too if I died for a year

January 13, 2022, 12:10 pm by Amber
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he had a long hibernation okay

January 13, 2022, 12:09 pm by Laurey
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Oh, apparently he was around in February 2020, so not as long as I thought.

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