Oh, I like this! The shading looks a lot nicer. I suppose it does have a vaguely more cartoonish style, but mostly in that its smile is more defined, making it seem more anthromorphized. I really like the shading/highlighting, it looks so much nicer! I'm not a big fan of the serpenth's design in general but I'm still pretty tempted to get one of these! Hmmmm...
These are some very recent colors done by the new artist. I doubt they'll get revamped anytime soon when she's got 15 pets on her plate.
Rip my spelling. Wish you could edit comments. *
keep in mind that this isn't the last of the Serpenth update. Those very designs could change throughout the week. We also may get the context you're asking for, like an entry in the subetapedia!
Baisically what I'm saying is we just gotta wait and see. ^.^7
Heck, now that I look at the special poses, the only other two fat serpenths are the chibi and (arguably) the bloodred. They're slim sneks.
No amount of peacocking could make tiny wings look like these.
I adore pudgy snakes- it's that this revamp's face has some really curved in lines o . o
Ever heard of peacocking ?
wishes we could edit posts Also glade and glacier. They have large wings.
Alright, but if they're supposed to have tiny blob wings and float or whatever, why do a lot of the special colors have large, functional wings? Darkmatter, Bloodred, Angelic, Storm, Nightmare, Graveyard, Spectrum AND Reborn Serpenths all have large wings that look like they could be used to fly,
I also love the new look, but I'd like to see the wings look more like they are about to open.
While I am always happy to bring in some logic, it's not always needed. We have pets that are sand, a blob of black goop, and one that looks like it's just always melting into a puddle. We have magic hear, after all (and one of our most powerful wizards is a strange, panty obsessed creep). It could fly/float for the most part, without the aid of their wings.
Let the snake have chub. The wings are fine
Calm down
Okay, but even in fantasy things, there has to be some sort of logical grounding. How do Serpenths move if they don't move like our snakes? They can't fly, thanks to their wings, they probably cant swim too well (again, wings, unless they have some sort of coating on them like a duck). Maybe explaining how they get around would dispel some of the criticism people have towards these guys.
I like this revamp. It's a nice update to make it match more of the rest of the site
While I personally like this revamp for various reasons (the shading is stellar!), seeing how many people complaining about preferring the old one, I made an overlay edit that combines the two.
[IMG]http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee480/KingdomEllipsis/Overlays/serpenthrevamp_zpsz9ew7wdv.png[/IMG]
Oh, and it's transparent too. Feel free to use with CSS coding (please don't upload it to your overlay bucket; that means other people can't use it too). I might add in all the recolors with this edit eventually when I have time, too.
side eyes the discourse below
Anyways, I quite like the update. It just looks like a more detailed version of the old one to me, which is just fine since it'll help it fit in more with the rest of the site's artwork. I think my next pet slot will go to the Serpenth thanks to this UvU/
(Now please calm down erryone it's just a fantasy snake monster that wouldn't work in real life anyways ;~;)
- Thanks for letting me know. ^_^ Looking forward to seeing more revamps in the future! Ignore the haters. ;D <3
We're talking about a place where people can go from being full-blown zombies to human, to another zombie type, to human, to a strange zapped alien skin. Or walk around without eyes, mouths, noses, etc. And some animals have evolved to the point that they walk around on two legs and talk. And fish can breathe without water. And some pets-of-our-pets are ten times their size. And some of those pets are literally just skeletons.
- we do not give that option, as we are trying to move away from our older art. We do, however, let users upload custom overlays of edited pet art for a fee (so you could use the old art as a base and recolour it or add details to it, you just couldn't upload it as-is)
I can't believe all of the people complaining when there were very minimal changes made. The biggest change I can see is that the lines are more defined and the details have been added/increased. I am not fond of this species, but I quite like the revamp! Great job. :)
- since you mentioned more revamps will happen in the future (or did I read wrong?), will you give users the option to keep the original artwork for their pet?
But wouldn't having such loose skin impede their movement?
the shading has improved
I can no longer have snakes (I miss my rosy boa so much QnQ They were the only snake I ever really liked). Turns out, I am allergic to either their dry skin or their poop and having to clean their cages resulted in respiratory infections. BUT ALSO, keep in mind that Subeta animals differ from real life animals. Perhaps these snakes have skin that's just a bit more loose and it's not a result of dehydration.
LET THE SNEKK BE FAT I mean my snekk is very fat but I love him (especially when he rolls around my arm like wth bud) (on a side note ... i am afraid of snake but i own one ayyy)
Awh. Thanks :) I just really really like snakes (Have come down to choosing to keep one at a time instead of 50 like I did a few years back)-- I figure, even if this one isn't changed, if I can share insight with the site artists, or ANYONE who wants to draw them, thats enough for me. ^_^
This is Subeta. There's discourse over noses being put on NPCs.
And also, see, did a good job on explaining what's possibly wrong (maybe Serpenths are like kids that throw tantrums over having to drink water ;) ). Constructive, and isn't a very strange outburst of fatphobia most likely brought on by self hatred directed at a dang snake drawing.
OMG I WAS JUST SAYING THAT STOP GET OUT OF MY HEAD :*
and like yall get antsy about him having fluffy wings ??????
when no one has pointed out that the serpenth in general HAS A FULL HEAD OF HAIR THAT HE CAN'T EVEN GROOM??????? like chill
I love theeemmmm~ Gonna need to get a new pet slot for the vibrant bab.
i can't believe there's discourse over a fake pet on this godforsaken website it's a snake with wings and a mullet y'all
me. a person who has worked a lot with boas and pythons: "yes good the pudge he is perfect chub snake"
ex:
LIKE HOW ARE YOU ALL GONNA TELL THIS BABY HE IS TOO PUDGY!?!??!?! how dare u
you all are too pudgy get out of here :|
(I sooo wish there was an edit for comments, as I saw Muerte's comment after posting my own, and the references posted are good, but there is a sliiight flaw. The pooling on the snakes we see, the only one that is similar to the serpenth would be the last image (Green Tree Python, if I'm not mistaken), where the snake is using the extra coverage of the ventral scales to help hold on to a branch-- its a deliberate act from the snake to give it a better grip on a small item to keep the snake from falling. I don't think the Serpenth is having this issue.
And yes, some snakes are "fat" like the Anacondas (which need water to ensure survival due to this extra weight putting too much strain on the animal)-- they're still powerful creatures that, in their element, can hold their own, and even out of water, one should be careful with them, but gravity and will use this weight against them~
I do love the reference image of the boa (these are my favorite snakes), but this one is also using is muscles to position it. Think of it as when you flex your muscles to show your biceps-- the snake is using its muscles to maintain its posture in the air. :) What we're seeing on the ground under the serpenth, in my professional opinion, would be a sign of starvation or dehydration-- NOT obesity.
Good snakes. Good post. 👍
Mm... Gonna share my input here, as a keeper of LARGE snakes (Boa Constrictors, Burms, and Retics)-- The fold DOES happen, but is usually a sign of a very unhealthy animal, usually one that is dehydrated, or even a starving snake. Knowing that, all I can think is that these serpenths are being abused. With the smaller species, it will happen under the same circumstances, though usually to a much lesser degree.
Adding in: The ventral scales do look off-- very worm-like (I know I had mentioned this before with the chibi serpenth) rather than reptilian-- the pronounced bulging on the ventral scales just... makes this very not snake. These scales are among the most important for a snake as it is what allows for locomotion. The scales being large, oblong, and SMOOTH reduce friction during movement, which is the largest source of energy loss in a snake. Snakes are super efficient creatures and will do everything to conserve precious energy.
The snout, overall, looks much better, in my opinion, and the serpenth does appear to have a friendlier expression (I promise, I'm not trying to bust Hagane's balls over this revamp! Just wanted to share in my own area of expertise, which is the anatomy of snakes.)
Overall, I like the revamp-- the coloring looks nice, but I do think the old wings look slightly better on these creatures.
So now I just can't help but wonder wth the Serpenth could possibly do with wings that don't work.
I assume this:
Which made me laugh a lot. I enjoy this.
For me personally some of the lines (not the fatness of the animal itself) are a bit too round, particularly around the face. I'm also questioning the lighting position around where the tail meets the pet's torso. I think the wing being flipped is a bit due to a lack of better definition around the coverts/underlining and the curve of the bone/muscles as it curves toward the shoulder. Just a subtle touch there and the issue would be resolved.
The updated art is nice, but overall the altered points of emphasis makes it seem like an update toward a pet that's more 13-year-old friendly than the previous artwork. No offense, it's just much softer now, like what'd you see in a place geared more towards younger populations. Friendlier faces, gentle lineart, soft coloring/blending, etc. Not for me, but I really don't care much about this particular pet on the site (even though I have raised snakes for some years now). Good job. Could use some adjustments, but it's certainly serviceable for this website and most of its users!
12/10. Perfect dangernoodle!
There we go, a crappy redline that took far too long because my mouse seems to think that 1-click means rapid-fire-clicking-YAY! Short, chub, fluffy wings that are still useless for flying, but are more wing-shaped and aren't flipped backwards. Add extra fluff as desired.
Or one with angelic dragarth wings slapped on, for those who want forward-curling wings.
Such a fatty It's a Cow Snake Wow tubs NECK FAT ?!?! Oh my gaaaw Mother Nature can't snake I'm wondering when people will realize that snake bodies do get larger, some aren't always super slick, and that the portion that's creating a "fat roll" is actually just skin. Because snake skin is shockingly movable. Snakes aren't made of steel.
Okay, I see the line everyone is talking about, on the far right of the image...it looks like the artist intended to show the shape that snakes tend to get along their bodies, but it got way too separated and kinda looks like it's sitting a little TOO heavily on that back bit, like...it's pooling out underneath it the way a dog's upper leg does over the lower half of the leg when it sits? If that makes sense? Other than that I think it'd fine, but that line does kinda make me a little confused. It's like / )_ when they mean just / ) visually.
I am not even that mad about this update, but seriously, some of the comments... complained it was too fat (Though my wording was different) owns a python So that's my knowledge base, perhaps it's different with larger snakes, our girl is a bit under 6 feet. She tends to stop eating in the Winter and then come Spring she eats a lot. By the end of Summer she's gained quite a lot actually, and she grows in girth; getting thicker, heavier, by far but she doesn't grow a fold of chub. She just gains muscle, but then again I'm feeding my gal mice and not chips or things of that nature so perhaps Serpenths have a different diet. shrugs This fat phobia stuff is also a bit silly. It's a snake, not a person. I wouldn't come and complain when a chibi is chubby as they're meant to have that quality. Just as I would complain if coloring looked flat or messy on most pets, but am not going to comment that for a sketch color. I also wouldn't make that comment on the NPCs around who are larger than the others. As a matter of fact, although not the biggest NPC, Ester is one of my favorites in look/style. But it's based on a snake, and although artists are free to have leeway and change anatomy as they see fit, some realism needs to stick around and as always is the case, people have issue when things cease to make sense. Like an animal that needs to be muscle-driven to hold up it's body, like a snake does, like the Serpenth does. Otherwise when you go to that place, like having wings that "aren't bird like" and look like plush things glued on, it seems strange, no matter what sort of artistic view you try to spin on it. I think perhaps (and I personally I care less about this than working on getting all pets in all colors done) the issues people are having about something that didn't need to be getting done but is, is the fact that if some artist is having the extra time to put towards this pet, perhaps they could have worked on around the site items (not pets) that some of the other artists are working on so they could devote time to pets who seem left out in the cold as far as these Revamps are going. But again, that's just a view I'm assuming people may have with the answer that's been given for that. I, personally, have no idea how things are set up because it's not talked about too much what anyone is working on/how things are divided outside of the basics (some artists are in charge of some pets, some artists work on specific designs for the SubQ/CashShop,etc.)
That does get into the realm of relevancy being something that's extremely subjective and feels to me a bit controlling, but hey. "It's a pet revamp but you're not allowed to talk about pet revamps, you can only talk about this specific pet." But I'm not the one who makes the rules. I am someone who does not agree with that kind of micro-managing, and there does seem to be a lot of that here.
Lolol XD I'm sorry. I noticed that after I posted but didnt want to double post (use the forums much more than news posts it seems!). Thank you for passing on the compliment! It's really amazing artwork.
made some edits:
I worked for a woman who had snakes and raised rodents for other snake owners and would deliver 'food' to them as part of her service. So yes, I really truly have seen some LARGE snakes, and many different snakes and my earlier criticism still stands, this revamp looks odd.
Large snakes look powerful and muscular and sleek. They do not look soft and pudgy like this revamp does. They do not sharply attenuate like this serpenth does unless they've eaten something big, and usually something that big is not down the whole length. .
okay guys. it's a snake. it's not fat. do you not know what big snakes look like? google it. seriously.
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I'm YELLING I l o v e this baby!! @ everyone complaining it's too fat: I pray you never own a big snake.
Artist 1: I have time to do a pet. Artist 2: I, do not. Artist 1: Alright cool, I am going to do what's next on MY list here because I've done everything that was before it/seen as more important.
BUT WHY DIDN'T ARTIST 4 DO THIS OTHER THING THAT I WANT. No other artist is allowed to do the pets on their list until Artist 3 does X, Y, Z. Because that makes sense. and things get done that way.
Meaning? It'd be just as strange to get a skinny mortiking out of the blue.