Animal Chance Machine: Daily Item

March 11, 2015, 12:55 pm by

Heh...maybe there could be a separate tab in the CS called Subeta Zoo and all the animals could be put there

March 11, 2015, 12:53 pm by

All I can see happening now is people just waiting for the day that their animal shows up and not even vending at the machine anymore. What's the point of trying a chance machine if you just need to wait for the day the animal you want shows up, right?

This daily purchase could potentially cut vending down so much that there won't be much of any profit coming from the machine because people are just going to wait until their animals show up.

Honestly, just get rid of the chance machine, put the animals in the CS for 250 a piece and there you go. No whining, no complaining, no profit losses, everyone gets the animals of their choice and everyone's happy.

March 11, 2015, 12:53 pm by

For somebody like me who is adverse to chance machines, this is a fantastic option. Thank you!

March 11, 2015, 12:43 pm by

What you aren't understanding Spiff is that if it was set initially, there wouldn't be any issues. But now that everyone has already spent a ton of CSC trying to get certainties from the machine, it's rubbing people the wrong way. We all know very well Subeta is a business. However, businesses still make mistakes and sometimes a bit of a loss needs to be taken before they can make profit again. Doubling the price for one certain animal would be better off getting rid of the chance machine altogether and put them in the CS.

If they take a bit of a loss now, they'll be able to make it all back and more if they just change prices a bit. However if it stays this way there could be a chance that this machine loses money as the price is higher than the original.

I really don't know what the point of a chance machine is if they're letting you buy a guaranteed one daily anyway. It coming to that should just have them winding up in the CSC It's not about whining. It's not about getting a certain way. It's solely looking at things from a monetary point of view. It really is better to take a small loss then profit than taking a potential bigger one due to the doubling of price after so many people already spending a ton on this machine.

March 11, 2015, 12:36 pm by

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So why then would anyone buy it for 250?

LIKE I SAID IN MY EARLIER COMMENT-- There are some that are more sought often. Higher demand = higher price Or people aren't gonna sell/trade them, period.

This is getting that shit into circulation or giving the people a chance to buy them straight up (OH HI HELLO BIG LARGE CATS THAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO WANT)

Like, if you guys don't want to spend the CSC, then don't? I haven't used the chance machine YET and already got a few of the dolls I've wanted. Literally stop bitching.

March 11, 2015, 12:33 pm by

i wasn't too big on this machine myself as the 125csc for a random gamble per draw and 80 items to go through was a little steep for a chance machine, disregarding the fact I don't have csc to burn anyway, but now this is introduced and I am just utterly confused, why would you offer this if it was supposed to be a gamble, and if while trying to have that gamble and then offer a random one daily for purchase but double? I. What?

Wouldn't it make more sense to either lower the cost in the chance machine due to there being 80 items in it and you having a lot of users clicking that multiple times to get what they wanted and selling/trading what they didn't or had duplicates of, and keep it chance, or just toss all of these in the cash shop for 250CSC each??

March 11, 2015, 12:21 pm by

Since there are so many of these in circulation chances are that the daily animal (whatever it may be from day to day) is in trades being sold for 125 CSC, probably even multiples. So why then would anyone buy it for 250? Just saying. I don't really care about these things but when it comes to chance machines, blind bags/boxes, or mystery whatevers; the only reason to make them at all is to get more money than you could have if you didn't make them chance. That's how it is in real life, that's how it is here. Some people like the mystery and that it's left up to chance, but for most people it just pisses them off.

March 11, 2015, 12:17 pm by

Thanks for the change! :)

March 11, 2015, 12:00 pm by

I like the idea :D thanks

March 11, 2015, 11:52 am by

And I know my last post is full of grammatical errors. IDGAF, ya'll get on my nerves.

March 11, 2015, 11:49 am by

Wow, I see nothing has changed in terms of bitching from the userbase. They didn't have to succumb to your demands/suggestions. It was initially a CHANCE MACHINE - pay 125, get a random animal. Now you can get a secured item for 250.. I'm not seeing how this is a bad deal?!

The chance machine is just like a gumball machine: you see all the really cool prizes, you put your quarter in, and you get a random item. It could be the item you reallly really want, but chances are it's a piece of crap that you don't. You put another quarter in hoping to get the item you want - another crap item. It's times like these you wish someone would come up to you and say HEY I HAVE THAT ITEM YOU WANT, AND I'LL SEE IT TO YOU FOR DOUBLE THE PRICE. You want that item really bad, so you're willing to pay that price for it! Yay, now you have your item.

Everyone needs to chill out and realize that Subeta is a BUSINESS. They need to make MONEY in order for you to even have the opportunity to buy these items in the first place. Either pay for it, or don't. You're relentless bitching about how much something costs not only brings negativity to the site, but I'm sure it discourages staff from doing anything similar in the future because they're going to have to deal with incessant bitching from certain people. And you're all going to whine until you get your way.

March 11, 2015, 11:40 am by

Thank you for this! Now I will have the chance to get the ones I want directly!

March 11, 2015, 11:39 am by

Charging less than 250 CSC is unfair to us who spent lots of CSC on the machine when it was 100% a gamble.

Donation presents are 250 CSC. The Cash Shop Hustler is 250 CSC per item. You'll survive.

March 11, 2015, 11:33 am by

While I'm going to wait for prices to drop in user shops, I do appreciate you giving us the opportunity to buy the actual items we went rather than leaving it up to chance. I'd rather spend 250 CSC on one item I actually want than spend 125 CSC multiple times just to get the ones I want.

March 11, 2015, 11:33 am by

taps lips Do I want to blow 250 csc on a giraffe that I want but will probably never even use? The struggle is real. This is what you guys get for having such good artists. (seriously, props to whoever drew the giraffe) I like this idea, but I think the price is too high.

March 11, 2015, 11:20 am by

Too late. I've already just went and bought the one I wanted from usershops. I don't need/want any others.

March 11, 2015, 11:01 am by

Can't say I see the point in this, especially at that price. Because it is a chance machine everything is going into circulation. It is not hard to go to trades or forums and find the specific animal you are looking for. You can either trade the one you got and didn't want or likely just pay the 125csc. 250csc is way too much for this, especially this late in the game. If it was perhaps pay 250csc for whatever animal you want or 125csc for random I guess that could maybe work. But too late for that now.

March 11, 2015, 10:45 am by

It just dawned on me that it said

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as if it came from a monthly collection.

I don't mind paying 250 for a collection item as the items are only around for a month. If this was true for the items in this machine, then I would be more willing to pay the price of 250 CSC for the daily "featured" animal. Seeing as I hardly think these particular animals will be around for only a month as there are far more animals than there are days in a month, the price of 250 CSC for a specific animal isn't fair. More and more will be coming into circulation causing the price of a lot of animals to drop...soon a lot lower than the 250 for the "featured" animal.

An animal comes up, people buy it to try and make profit. People get them in vending. It doesn't take much to see the price drop.

The animals are gorgeous, no doubt about that. 125-175 CSC would've been a fair full price for an animal, lower for a chance at a random one. But paying as much for a daily "featured" animal as you would for a special collection item when the animals will be much more plentiful given the amount of people who are online and vending just doesn't make sense.

The chance to buy a definite one daily is excellent, but the prices from the beginning should've been reevaluated.

I can understand the cost to pay the artists for their hard work, I know it's expensive. If it was lower to begin with, the amazing artists would have their pay a lot sooner and the site would be able to make money on the machine through a lower rate after the artists got paid through many more willing to vend than making the price so high from the get go and people not wanting to spend as many CSCs.

Like Karan said - 125 has already been established. Making the price higher for a secured animal now isn't fair.

It's making me think back to the Masq plot. Initially if you got the full amount of plot points you would've been able to just buy the main weapon and nothing more. However, a mistake was made and you were able to buy all the items including the main weapon with the points. Staff didn't want to change things after realising the mistake as they knew people would be upset.

The price had already been established at that time. It stayed that way instead of making things different due to human error.

The same situation is happening here. If the price was initially set at 250 CSC for a direct purchase and no chance machine, no issue. But doubling the price of something after the initial price has been set doesn't make sense. Especially when dealing with real money.

I think the price of the vends should drop and make the Daily Animal 125 CSC as it's already been the established price.

March 11, 2015, 10:32 am by

lol, so why is it still a chance machine? Put them all in the Cash shop for that price...

Also, NOW? we already HAVE spent more to try our luck, we'd really want to trade the unwanted ones against the sought after, rather than spend even more CSC.

Of course with chance machines, like with the donation presents, those items go into circulation, which normal Cash Shop items do no longer.

March 11, 2015, 10:32 am by

Bitch bitch bitch

March 11, 2015, 10:21 am by

Totally like this idea, but holyshit 250? Too much for me. But I am glad you guys are trying to work with us on this one. :)

March 11, 2015, 10:15 am by

The way I see this is:

Trade for the ones you want. I'm sure there is someone out there who wants the doll you got that you aren't interested in.
Buy them from user shops. I've already seen quite a few that are well under the sP equiv of 125CSC (I bought a few for 5mil. That is a deal).
If it's a highly sought after doll (like the large cats) you're going to have to pay more. That's just how it goes. So either pay more to the user who was lucky enough to get it or pay more straight to the site.

Stop bitching already. This is JUST like hair coupons.

March 11, 2015, 9:58 am by

So people were complaining that the price of 125 was too high and it should be 50 or 75 and now to get a specific one it costs double. Sorry but there are too many I want to pay that much for them. I'll just wait until the prices come down in user shops.

March 11, 2015, 9:54 am by

I do wish they were just slapped in the CS but thank you for this option c:

March 11, 2015, 9:52 am by

I think this is a fair deal. 250csc for secured odds or to get something that you really want but didn't want to risk the chance machine for. Monthly collections are that price, as are hair coupons and hustler items. Some of the more sought after animals (like tigers and leopards) would be even more expensive if we didn't have a chance of getting them for 250csc (judging by chance boxes in the past) Honestly no point in putting them in the CS now as there are plenty already in circulation, but it's just something to keep in mind for next time :) I appreciate the staff listening to our concerns about the chance machine and trying to find a compromise.

March 11, 2015, 9:16 am by

Like the others said - should've just put them in the CS like you did the Vanity and hair coupons to alleviate the chance behind it.

March 11, 2015, 9:12 am by

I don't know...I think chance machines should be left to the old chance bags and not have new ines come up. Honestly, the Luminaire Chance Machine hasn't even been added to the list yet and it's an active machine.

I don't think that I'll be spending any more CSC on this machine. The odds are just not good. It's disappointing.

March 11, 2015, 9:09 am by

Some people keep complaining whatever you do. Hope this will not stop motivating you guys for doing more great stuff like this!

March 11, 2015, 9:08 am by

I am not into these animal thing but I think that the price is fair...I looked at that page and now all you have to do is click and you have your favorite animal. Just like the hair coupons...they actually should make a machine for that! I would buy lots of hair coupons with a machine like that ___

March 11, 2015, 9:06 am by

this is good

March 11, 2015, 9:02 am by

Thanks for trying to appease the part of the userbase who wasn't happy about the whole chance-item-for-125-CSC thing. I was (and still am) a part of that. It's nice to have the option to buy at a set price an animal that I might actually want, as opposed to chance it. But I'm still not sure I'm into the price. I wish they'd just been put into the CS at 125 CSC to begin with and I guess I'm going to keep wishing that. Again, though - thank you for trying!

March 11, 2015, 9:01 am by

Bah just put them in the cash shop..

March 11, 2015, 8:58 am by

If they were in the cash shop then I could buy them as I can afford them (hint hint)

March 11, 2015, 8:57 am by

Double the price for secured odds. It really benefits those who are after the whole set because at chance they would probably spend more than double to get one of everything. Those who complain can either just gamble their csc, or purchase the items with sp. Consider the 250csc a buyout for either lazy people or people who only want a few or all of them but don't want to pay more than they absolutely have to.

March 11, 2015, 8:56 am by

I think it would be a better idea to put ALL of them in the cash shop for around 125 CSC each. That's just my opinion though

March 11, 2015, 8:55 am by

Please Model Albino Burmese tomorrow =3

March 11, 2015, 8:54 am by

250 CSC would have been the place to start for a choice of which animal you wanted. Now there's enough of them in circulation and the 125 CSC has been established so most players aren't going to be overly excited about this.

March 11, 2015, 8:53 am by