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May 17, 2005 9:41 am

ITEM UPDATE

Alright, I went on a plushie fixing spree (for the second time this evening). The Swampie Plushies have been fixed. This is what has been done:

The older Swampie Plushies have been renamed Vintage Swampie Plushies. Their rarities and prices have been upped slightly, since they are... VINTAGE!

The newer revisions are Swampie Plushies now. So you can now have both plushies!

And flower plushies have been moved from a replacement to their own set... =D So flower plushies shouldn't end up in your collections now, unless you bought them after this edit.

In short, I made it so that all that was edited was just the names, instead of moving plushies back and forth. Easier! (and a better idea, but Quetzal is teh stupid)

You can still obtain all of these plushies from the Toy Box.

And since you all have been patient, here's an Angelic Chai for you. ;D

If there are still errors, post them HERE so we can avoid cluttering of the forums. I'll attend to the matters as soon as I can. =D

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Chai is sooooo cute!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I LUFF CHOO TOO. XD <33

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Haha, sorry, Mythi. I felt kinda responsible since my comments were the only ones that Sooki acknowledged. I figured those were the ones you noticed too.

<3

It's okay. I still luff choo!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

As I've said Kelpzor, I never once intended my post(s) to be directed at you in particular. I don't.. think I did anyway. XD

Pah. And.. I give in.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Well, I will apologize for what? the third time? if I've come across as rude. I'm not trying to hold Lina above anyone. Please reread eveything I've said, all of you artists. If anything I'm trying to preserve the chai. I'm not saying Sooki's art sucks, or that she's a worthless artist. I'm not trying to damage her self-esteem. I simply offered ways to make the creature more like a chai. I did so quite kindly as well. If she feels more comfortable taking constructive criticism from other artists, then I can respect that. It doesn't mean I won't offer my two cents.

I'm in no way attacking the artists. Nor do I want to. I respect you a lot, Mythi-poopie! As soon as you mentioned me publicly bashing staff, I went straight to several friends to gather opinions to make sure what I said was tactful. I may not have a positive opinion of the angelic chai, but I should be able to voice that. I don't think Sooki did a bad job on the artistry. It just isn't a chai to me, point blank. As a (sometimes paying) member of this site, I think I have the right to offer my opinion. I don't think there was a less strong way to put it when Sooki threw up her hands and in effect said "Take it or leave it." I understand that Sooki has feelings, but I do as well. When I try to give a VERY KIND suggestion ("Sooki, you forgot the tea leaves. Maybe if you did suchandsuch...") and am met with such an "I give up" attitude...well, it's disappointing.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

As I said in my previous post...
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; border: 1px solid ; font-size: 10;">Far too often I've seen careless, throw-away lines seriously damage an artist's confidence

We're not against constructive criticism in the least.. Gods knows I'm always bothering friends on AIM and Staff members on the Staff forum wanting help with unreleased projects and things. It's the way things are said, which can often be taken as offensive. Perhaps your passion for Lina and her artwork, was what made you feel like commenting so strongly, and that's really, very understandable, and admirable, but sometimes the posts written with the best intentions, can look harmless to the poster when quickly reading over to check for spelling errors etc before posting, and to other users.. but to the artist whose work is in question, in whatever situation, the way one or two things are written, can be quite ... well... it doesn't make one feel good about one's work.

I never pointed to any one person in particular when I posted, and I really wasn't trying to. There were several posts by several users, I found to be mildly offensive. Both here, and on the forums in various threads or posts.

Just as you're defensive of Lina's original artwork and designs, I'm defensive of all the other artists on Subeta. Throw away lines, or very blunt statements can really be damaging. I'm not suggesting everyone lie and keep their suggestions and so on to themselves.. I'm just suggesting everyone keep in mind that their comments aren't being submitted to some robot, they're being posted and directed to an actual person, whose passion and hobby is to create, and hopefully delight the users.

Anyway. Whatever. Pft. From now on, I'll just avoid all news comments posts, and keep to the Staff Forum. :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Mythica, there's a huge difference between public staff bashing and constructive criticism. Just because a few of us think that the chai could use a few changes to make it more of a chai, doesn't mean that I don't think Sooki isn't talented (as I've reinforced several times here) and doesn't mean I'm unappreciative. I apologized for any such impression I've given. What you do need to understand is that you artists are here to please 25000 players. Several artists have tackled other artists creations and pulled it off without compromising the original design of the pet. Take Cookie's original kerubi, and Christine's graveyard version. I'm not asking Sooki to BE Lina...I'm simply asking her to honor her original creature. Is that so rude? I'm really trying not to be. If I sat here and said "OMG, THAT SUCKS! WTH WERE YOU THINKING?!" then yeah, you'd have a reason to be upset with me. But I'm not. I think it's adorable. It just isn't a chai to me...

I just really love the chai for its tea theme. You cannot understand how important that is to myself and to the original artist. As I've said, you can't just give the hikei one tail, take away the horns from a feli, shave off the wings from a kerubi, or take away the harvester's scythe without someone saying something. It is what makes our Subeta pets so unique, and I for one am very sorry to see it go. The rest is tolerable about the chai. As you said, it's an interpretation. But the tea leaves...are just that important. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to attack Sooki's self-confidence, as she knows I adore her art, and have for a long time.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I absolutely adore the Angelic Chai. :3 Adorable pose and enviable shading as is always the way with Sookz's work.

I actually really like the minor tweaks and changes to the original Chai in the Angelic Chai. The face is socute.. and.. well.. I'm sort of glad those supposed Tea Leaves were removed... I always thought they were out of control, mouldy eyebrow hairs? I was like.. why does Suebta have a pet that neglects to pluck its brow on a regular basis? XD

I mean.. the original Chai is fabulous in itself.. very, very cute.. but I really do ADORE Sookz's intepretation. XD

The wings are magnificent Sooks. I love and envy and hate you, all at the same time. XD <333

AND I THINK PUBLIC STAFF BASHING SHOULD CEASE PERHAPS? Far too often I've seen careless, throw-away lines seriously damage an artist's confidence -- I'M ONE OF THEM WHO HAS IN THE PAST, BEEN MAJORLY OFFENDED.

One day.. we shall get our revenge... xD plots

Anyway.. ossum work Sookz.. and I think those new Swampie Plushies are actually some of my favourite Plooshes on the entire site.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love the angelic chai, but I already used my angelic potion on my sheeta.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

That's fine. I just want you to know I'm not the only one. Don't edit it for me, or hold a grudge against me for offering suggestions. Feedback isn't always going to be positive. Just because I can't draw or do better doesn't mean I don't know what I'd like to see.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Sorry Kelpie, but I wont change it anymore..

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

O.O -rubs eyes- Is that what I think it is? An Angelic Chai!! My gosh, now I have seen everything. And a bear that cute I must get!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Wow thats adorable, though I really couldn't tell it was a Chai. Still, its too cute! ^^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Or simply erase the eyebrows and make that hair tuft a tad smaller and there will be room, even with the larger ears. I'm not saying it's poorly done, Sooki. I'm not being ingrateful. I don't mean to be at least. I just think that it could look more chai-ish.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love the Chai!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

It's lovely, sooki but I think the head should be much, much bigger and the ears much, much smaller. Then, there'll be room for tea leaves

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm not asking you to be lina_blade, Sooki. There's no need to get so defensive. I'm just saying that it isn't a chai without the leaves. That's all. The rest is acceptable.

As long as you're not changing the tail of the hikei or whatnot, then yeah. It should be fine. Don't act like I'm not the only one who complained here. Cookie and I both offered positive feedback as well, and ways this could be improved. But leaving the leaves offto me is like leaving the horns off a feli, or giving the hikei a horse tail, or leaving the wings off a kerubi's head. They're just what makes our Subeta pets unique.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I just think the head on the chai is too small which makes the eyes look kind of crowded in there....

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Sorry Kelpie, but I wont touch the thing anymore..

I sketched like one and a half hour to make it look chai... I aint lina blade I dont have her style or whatever X_X;;;

ANd when I added those leave thingies it made it look really ugly and messy O_o;; So I left them out XD

I guess you wont like the hikei either then... X_X;; hides it

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

nice but why change them?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Would they have been turned into a regular Swampie Plushie(a newer one)? That very well could be what happened?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

What flower plushie did you purchase? It may have been changed to a swampie plushie.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I suggested that once, Cookie, but I don't think Keith liked the way I worded it. XD I may have come across offensive. But yes, uniformity would be nice.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

What if we went out and purchased Flower plushies before the second part of the announcement? I don't have a Flower OR Vintage of a couple that I had earlier.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Arg that golden Kerubi is my fault >.< I couldn't remember what I named the old one...two choices..of course I went for the wrong one ^^" ( I could have just checked, silly me .___."") But anyway, SOMEBODY (a.k.a Keith) should say once and for all what the official names of the colors are and change all the links to match!! :O

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

WTH. Trillian is being retarded again. XDD Oh well.

Angelic and Golden are more grammatically correct, I think. The suffixes make the name sound pretty, like you said... and yeah. Some of the items are mixed up... We might have like... Golden PETNAME Plushie and Gold PETNAME Plushie... x__x

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

That's what I thought too. Angelic sounds prettier. It's kinda like the whole trouble we have here with Gold versus Golden. We are golden, right? Because the Other side is Gold. But our urls are gold.gif. If it's uploaded to golden.gif, it doesn't work. That's like what's gone wrong with the Golden kerubi.

I was online for half a second, but I couldn't do anything. I wrote you a message, and then it froze. Then you were offline. o_0;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think it's supposed to be 'Angelic' because the URL setup for Angelic pets is 'petname_angelic.gif'

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Okay, I have a question. Are they Angel pets or [Angelic[/b] pets? Because when you look up a pet, it says 'Soandso the Angel Sheeta.'

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Trillian says you're offline. XDD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

tries AIM express Maybe it will work?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Dawww, poopies, I wanted to AIM you, but I'm guessing you're at work.

DOWN WITH THE EMPLOYMENT SYSTEM! LET'S ALL BE POOR!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I drew a fairy/elf/child/girl/thing yesterday. It's just a headshot. I should upload it.

Ah, I have AIM, but it doesn't work from work. Silly filters. AIM: kelpination

Oooh, I just gave it to everyone too. XD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

KEEP ON PRACTICING.

I PRACTICE SO MUCH, MY GRADES TAKE THE DIVE. ;o

Hey Kelpie, do you have AIM?

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh, all right. will be patient

Geez, I wish I had artistic talent. As involved as I am into art everywhere I go online, you'd think I'd have a little skill. ;_;

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

You shall see it... when I finish. Which is really soon, maybe today. I DON'T KNOW. UNLESS I DECIDE TO BE LAZY.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

rofl Actually it wasn't the worship I was after. It was the feli preview. XD pats Christine's head You may rise.

Man, I could imagine the chaos if the felis got a revamp. o_0; I'd hide to avoid the confrontation.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh yeah, I was like, "OMG THE FELI SHOULD NEVER BE REVAMPED."

And sure, I'll bow to you, all-mighty other site guild leader. bows and worships

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think I about flipped though when I saw someone asked about a feli revamp in the Editorial. chokes

Worship me, Christine! nosey

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

giggle I guess Lina didn't make that so clear. XD I dunno, she and I are fairly close, so when she was designing it to me, she explained it all. Hahaha!

Aw, Christine, don't be afraid of the angelic feli. I'd love to see you try it. I am rather defensive of Lina's art, but as long as it has the stripes, the horns and the wings, it's all good. Leaving the tea leaves off the chai is like leaving the head wings off the kerubi. You must DO IT!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Mystical Cookie, lemme show you what I have done. SINCE I WORSHIP YOU.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Quetzal is drawing the Feli?? UAAAAHH DOOOOM!! >3
Nah it's going to be gorgeous!! xD Don't worry...and if it isn't we'll bite your head off x3

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

WAIT... THOSE ARE LEAVES? I THOUGHT THEY WERE SOME FUNKY EYEBROWS!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I knew they were named after tea, but just didn't twig they had tea leaves on their head xD I was always wondering what those weird green antennae/leafy thingies were xD Now you say it it seems obvious!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Now I'm worried about doing the feli...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Yeah, that's why <a href=/userinfo.php?usern=lina_blade>lina_blade named them chais. Since chai is a blend of tea, they're tea leaves. You can see it clearer on the chibi version.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Btw..those are tea leaves on the Chais head? I didn't know that xD How cute! =^___^=

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Thanks, Cookie. At least I'm not the only one who sees it. It's cute, but it isn't a chai to me. The mouth is too wide, the hair, the slender body, and the tea leaves are so important on the head.

It's a beautiful piece of work, though! I don't want Sooki to think she did a bad job drawing. The skill is there, the chai-ness just isn't.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I dunno...but somehow the angelic Chai doesn't look very Chai-ish...I mean it's cute and beautifully drawn but somehow it looks more like a cat/bear than a Chai. The Chai just seems a lot stockier and maybe it's that tuft of hair and the huge ears that makes it look wrong >.< I'm sorry about the crits Sooki! v.v"

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

pokes It is me or one of the recent swampie plushies just became "Unknown Item"? shrugs

I love the flowers plushies anyhow.

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