Escalade Revamps

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Jessi, I think the big issue people have is when a pet's look is changed THIS much (which yes, it is a serious change. The face looks entirely different, it's fluffier, and it's claws were changed), then people expect a poll.

I have zero doubts that if a poll had been put up, you would have had an overwhelming amount of people saying keep the old one. The new face does not look right. It is proportioned oddly, and honestly, just looks like someone shoved 2 gemstones into a balloon. >_>;

The rest of it, to me, is incredible. But the face ruins it completely.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Sorry. I tried to make my second post cause I agreed I was being too rude.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Sorry.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

D: Nooooo, why?!

There was nothing wrong with the old art. Why replace it? Especially with art that doesn't even look that different outside of the general body language/expression.

Maaaan, now I have to change Hakuoro to something else. :( His facial expression looks nothing like his namesake now.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I feel so terrible for the artist after viewing some of these comments. It seems that actually constructive criticism is dead...not to mention the comments that were just flat-out rude and unnecessary. It's okay to voice a negative opinion, but as Kilala said, there is a way to do it politely.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Oh. Oh. I am very pleased with this. :D Beautiful. I love the subtler shading on the fur - it doesn't look shiny and wet anymore. And the head and tail covers...I like the rounder edges. I approve wholeheartedly.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm just glad this isn't a favorite pet of mine c: I guess that's why it doesn't bother me so much XD.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't understand all the rudeness going on :c I mean I can agree that maybe some changes make the pet look less "fierce" I guess that's the word everyone is using and is why everyone is upset? But that's no reason to be rude and say really hurtful things ;/ honestly if I was an artist member for Subeta, I'd probably wouldn't draw anything since some people can be seriously mean. Yes you can voice your opinions, but there's a way to voice your opinions without being awfully rude about it.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I honestly am shocked at some comments. Given that this is just one artist looking over just some of the pets art, i don't think its fair to say that theirs didn't need a revamp or that their art isn't up to your standards of whats expected. The fact that i see some people saying that other pets needed the revamp more like this artist has control over it is quite rude. Never expected this from this community. I wont go on about it, but i wanted to say that although they are a bit different than what they were before, I love how they look. If any changes were made, they should be just to make some parts more angular to give it that neutral and original look. other than that this is absolutely lovely

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I don't understand why people think they are entitled to a poll on everything. Yes, this was a species revamp. Yes, there usually polls for entire species revamps. But not always! The pose didn't change and the overall design didn't change. This was an update to the art.

It is fine to not like something. It is fine to re-potion or re-elixir your pet if you don't like it. It is fine to use the old art if you don't like the new. But some of the rude comments here seriously make me shake my head.

As for this revamp, I think it is wonderful. The face is a big change and will take some getting used to but I mean look at that gorgeous tail! And the shading is wonderful. I like that it no longer looks plastic like an action figure. Makes me miss my BR escalade. Can't wait to see that revamp!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I really like this revamp. I have a minor soft spot for Escalades, and it's still there. The only niggle I have is that I can't help but see this as three legged...

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Lol Jessi, I'm flabbergasted that you're flabbergasted at rudeness, when you're so used to spewing out rude comments yourself.

Oh and if you think I'm being rude by calling you rude, that's wrong ^o^

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I can tell you guys right now- Being rude and disrespectful is NOT going to get the escalade back. I agree- I don't really like the face or the helmet compared to the original. I liked the calamity and mystery which people see as being 'fierce' that were lost with the eyes being closer in, lightly shaded and less slanted or angular. Yes, I do agree the nose is a little too squished and the escalade has become a little too 'kawaii' for my taste. BUT- The artist worked hard. 90% of us want the original face and helmet back... but you know what, you should at LEAST respect the mass of effort placed into this work of art. It is not 'ugly' it is not 'hideous' it is not 'horrible'. It's a freaking work of art people. I understand, as I made the same mistakes when they revamped my favorite pet (Tigrean) and I despised it, and add some awful news... needless to say I snapped. It's still no excuse. So all of you who are being so rude take a step back and stop looking at it as an escalade and more a beautiful drawing. Make criticisms that will help make it better. Not your gut reactions. I'd rather have this revamp permanent than listen to this. I'm tearing up at how horribly you guys are speaking of it. Could you imagine if this was your drawing? :(

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

they kinda look like a man's... bits... popping out of hair. Not sure how I feel about these O.o

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Disgusting seeing some of these comments where it's literally like people are trying to hard to just troll and outright disrespect the artists and their hard work. Since coming back from my hiatus seems like Subeta has taken a huge hit on their community respect and etiquette. Obviously those just outright trashing the artists do not understand hard work because if they did, I'm sure they would hate being told the job they just did sucked, even though they put in their best efforts.

Anyways, love the revamp. My only critique input I can add is, shrink the nose a little and narrow the eyes a bit more to seem a little more "mysterious"

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I'm seriously baffled at how flat out rude some of these comments are (like the one about the art looking like a corpse, with a quick "no offense" thrown in - which is only used when something is offensive...). If I was , I wouldn't bother to draw Escalades again for a very, very, VERY long time. I guess it's a good thing I'm not a staff artist, but as a staff member (and... Lindsey's wife), I'm just flabbergasted at how rude some of you are.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I agree with Autobot, MugoUrth was very hypocritical -_- (see MugoUrth's first post, really rude and very disrespectful)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The art is definitely gorgeous, and while a revamp was needed for it to match the other pets and the site's style more... I have to say, there was a more sharp, strong look to the old version that I'll miss. Its old face was part of the reason the Escalade was one of my favourite pets... While it looks lovely overall, with many improvements, I kinda miss that attitude the old Escalade had!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I kinda miss the fierce look of the old version. Suddenly these look cute and cuddly.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

And ok there's a difference between being a "nay-sayer", not liking the revamp, giving critique, etc, and just being really obnoxious and rude and over the top, like most of the "nay-sayers" here have been. Some words that do not belong in a constructive critique or simple expression of dislike would be "fucking ugly", "ruined", "hideous", and "terrible". I'm not gonna respect anyone that makes comments like that.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I know people are kind of nagging at the nay-sayers, so I guess I can make a more friendly post.

While the shading is pretty good, the face just looks wrong. It's so round and chubby that it looks a bit creepy, plus it looks less serious and dangerous in this revamp. I can understand that someone put time and effort into it, but still.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

"People have the weirdest overly specific descriptions of the old expressions of pets sometimes. I never saw the old Escalade as "fierce" as so many people are saying, I saw it as calm and totally neutral. Like basically without any real discernible mood. So I guess I'm just totally lost on that point because people are acting like it used to look like something that was ready to murder some babies but I just don't see that at all."

I guess "fierce" is too strong a word to describe it, but the old design was sharper, which will often come across as more badass compared to the more child-like design.

...Actually, I thought there was a poll for the Escalade earlier. o.o Maybe I'm just mixing it up with another pet revamp, though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The front leg of the new one looks broken too.. poor Esca D:

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Alot of others have said the same already.. but I liked the older pose, face expression and claws more. Though..From this one I like the shading and the tails! I am still not a fan of the pet though.. and will probably never own one hehe xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The fact just looks REALLY weird.

I wasn't a big fan of the old escalades, but their faces were 10000000x better. :S

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i really love the new escalades

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

[quote]People have the weirdest overly specific descriptions of the old expressions of pets sometimes. I never saw the old Escalade as "fierce" as so many people are saying, I saw it as calm and totally neutral. Like basically without any real discernible mood. So I guess I'm just totally lost on that point because people are acting like it used to look like something that was ready to murder some babies but I just don't see that at all.

And that seems to be everyone's main complaint so I am just sitting here with question marks rapidly flying out of my head.[quote]

My thoughts exactly xD I love the revamp :)

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

People have the weirdest overly specific descriptions of the old expressions of pets sometimes. I never saw the old Escalade as "fierce" as so many people are saying, I saw it as calm and totally neutral. Like basically without any real discernible mood. So I guess I'm just totally lost on that point because people are acting like it used to look like something that was ready to murder some babies but I just don't see that at all.

And that seems to be everyone's main complaint so I am just sitting here with question marks rapidly flying out of my head.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

i really love the new escalade

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I have to say, I -love- the softer outline on these guys. They're so fluffy and I love, love, love the coloring on their armor. I am, sadly, in agreement with a lot of others--I'm a little sad that their expressions are more mild. That was one of the things I really loved about them--is that they had that 'excuse me?' look to them. Otherwise, I'm really digging them. c: The bigger claws, especially! Wouldn't want to be swatted with those, ouch.~

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I love the new ones a lot actually :D The old ones looked too shiny and plastic to me.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The older ones looked more bad/evil, this one is too cute :/ Please, be careful when revamping the other colors, I own 7 escladaes and wouldn't want them to look cute as this revamped ones :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I... Like it, but I thought this was a pet that really, really didn't need a revamp to begin with.... So many others need it worse.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Ahh nooo the new ones are too... cutesy ;; I miss the badassery of the old ones. The shading and coloring is a nice improvement but... not at the expense of the face.

Oh well, its not a pet I personally owned anyway, but I can see why people are upset.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think the artist did a great job, but the face does look a little mannequin-like when you've got the old and new up side-by-side. The eyes have lost femininity (although I imagine that was probably intentional, to achieve a more unisex design) and the new nose gives the illusion that the face is now nearly flat, like a brachycephalic animal.

Species revamps are always really tough. It takes a brave artist to do one knowing it's almost a guarantee that there's going to be dissonance.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

If I didn't like the old escalade so much I probably would have shrugged about this, but I used to have one and thought it badass. This revamp... yeah, I don't particularly like the face. To me the escalade was like an alien half-feral ox/deer, while the new face reminds me of some sort of bug's life not-scary, stub-nosed ant. Add the new pupiless eyes, plus the removal of the threatening feel from the helmet rim's position, and the effect is pretty alienating to me. I'm not saying that the art itself is bad - the lack of super light highlights for instance is an improvement - it's just that this change in the pet's expression is so big that I cannot help but feel negatively about the revamp.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I LOVE THIS REVAMP they are so fluffy i just want to pet all of the escalades now the shading is so good aaaa

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I think it's fantasitic how such a small change in the angles and the shape of the helmet can make such a big difference in the personality of the pet. Look at them, they aren't really that different! But look at the helmet - while the old one had a "V" shape, making it look a lot more dangerous and "in-to-your-face", the new one has a "3" shape, removing completely the "attacking" pose the v-shape has. Also, the old one had a different use on the colors, using more highly saturated colors and whites to do the highlights, giving it a "metallic" look overall. The fur didn't look fluffy and puffy, it looked slend. The other way around happens in the new one.

So, the issue clearly does not have to do with art quality, but with a massage the artist was trying to pass, instead. However, it seemed most people chose the Escalade because it had that menacing look. It had a misterious look, as you can almost see just half of his face. Now it's a more open, friendly instance.

I personally prefer the old one, but I still think a revamp would be necessary. Keeping the old features, but improving in quality (i like the smoother lines on the new one).

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Also, the spikes on the helmet are way too curved.. :/

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Love everything, but wishes the eyes were squintier and nose not as, hmm, squished in :I

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Like the new look, wish they would have kept the old style eyes though.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

why this

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Re-reading my comment now, it comes off as much harsher than I intended. Having a surly Saturday, I guess.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

...Am I the only one who loves how cute and fluffy they look now? xD I dunno man, I've always been a fan of escalades, but I was slightly bothered by how mean the old one looked. I really like the revamp, to be completely honest!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Granted, the shading is better but they look too cuddly now. The old ones looked more bad-ass. They looked SO much better with the old version. I was thinking about getting escalade in the future but if this is what they look like now I'm reconsidering.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Never liked this species, just kind of bleh.

The tails look better, but I think overall I prefer the older version.

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

Everything about this revamp is good. Better pose, better shading, better lines, better colors. Even though I've never liked this pet, this was SO needed. Wonderful revamp. Thank you!

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

The shading is slightly improved in the newer versions, but I liked the faces of the old ones MUCH, much better, including the shape of the horns. Ah well, you gain some you lose some. Not everyone's going to be satisfied, but I'm sure plenty of people are xD

December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

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December 31, 1969, 7:00 pm by

I can tell the artist put a lot of time and effort into creating the new pet style. Think of the artists feelings. Someone worked really hard on this ^_^.

Now to decide which of my 13 pets to turn into one ^_^.

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