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MAY 25: UPDATE + AMA


HELLO, ALL. Life has been a butt to both of us. If you are wondering what we've been doing, the answer is: our best.

amber has been doing things behind the scenes with items, which is not helpful to you right now. ariel and amber are working on finalizing pricing for two rose and thorn items, so they'll be comin at u soon

bug (hi) has been trying to do little QoL updates as well as staying on top of bug reports and bug fixes and working on a bunch of TOP SECRET things behind-the-scenes! here's some examples of the teeny tiny qol stuff...

  • You can no longer make forum groups with invalid characters in the tag. (Things like hashtags, hyphens, etc that make the group un-pingable.)
  • Invalid species and colors have been removed from the Adopt-R-Us search page. (These are like bumbus, hydrus and bhakoru, which cannot be abandoned without changing into a different species or color.)
  • The text informing you how much time is remaining in a training session has been tweaked to avoid referring to your pet as an "it"

question time

All right! So for this week's update, we wanted to do something a little bit different.

First off, what are some quality-of-life updates you'd love to see this summer? What are your favorite site features and how can we make them better? What do you do every day on the site that could be improved? Note: We won't have time to do every suggestion, of course, but we'd like to get a general idea of what y'all want to see. If a suggestion pops up that we know we won't be doing, we'll make sure to reply and let you know!

Second, Ask Us Anything! While we're here, we also want to invite you to ask us any questions you may have, about Subeta or about us! We'll do our best to answer anything about Subeta, even silly questions like why are there so many ladybug items ([user=amber has a great story about that). can answer more technical questions and anything code-related. And uh, will answer anything about yarn. No need to ping us with questions, we'll be lurking like the lurks we are!

REGARDING TEAHUT: there will be a topic specifically for this in the future from the creative department. We won't be answering anything about it here, sorry! We promise it is happening, but the topic from CD will have actual information about it and not just us trolling you guys here with ??? WHO KNOWOoOWWOS, which is known to do.

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Quite note: We'll be answering these in multiple posts, and we won't be answering the questions in order, because some of them we have to discuss amongst ourselves first and so on. But we promise we are not ignoring anyone so please don't feel bad if you were skipped - You weren't actually skipped, your question probably is just going to take a bit longer to answer

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With the wardrobe, IDK if this is possible in the current version, but I&;ve toyed with this idea and here it is;</p>
<p>Lock items in place on the avatar.</p>
<p>If a shirt goes under a vest and you&;re trying to pick which shirt, it&;s pretty annoying to continually have to click and drag things. I&;d love an option to just lock something so it stays at the top of the list and things are automatically added beneath it on the HA.
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Also QOL, I know it&;s been mentioned fifty times but I really, really, really wish there would be a button to remove an item from the wardrobe directly.
If it&;s just 2-3 items, sure you can go through account search, but when you&;re trying to pull out 200 items, it&;s a whole lot of copy pasting when it could just be a click! ;;

I'll be passing these wardrobe suggestions on to who is working on a new and improved version of the wardrobe! These both sound like reasonable suggestions to me, so we'll definitely discuss it!

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This old woman would give much for some sorely needed eye relief, if we&;re talking quality of life. Many nights I sit up playing Subeta, wishing there was a night-mode. *nods

There's been a huge ongoing project at Subeta HQ to make a new site layout, and we have discussed incorporating a night mode into this new layout! Since our efforts have been focused on this new layout, we unfortunately won't be adding a night mode to the current one.

However, a fellow user and cool bug made a beautiful and free Night Mode CSS. You can find it here: -Night Mode- Shengui Guo Custom CSS [v2.0] I highly recommend it!

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The gardens would be nice to have revamped for summer! I&;ve recently been doing a bit of gardening and it&;s so easy to forget to water your plants. New seeds would be cool as well.

Gardens will be revamped! We just have to get the teahouse project out first :x

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I would like to see more quests and more achievements for them. I know we get 15 quests for each one but it would be nice if you could up it to 20 and then maybe 10 for the blue building.

We currently have no plans to add more quests per a day. You can currently do so many if you do all the different quest givers. I'll brainstorm with about some new quest related achievements, though. :)

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if possible, i&;d like to be able to move threads in private forums again as well as have subcategories in there for better organising!

What do you mean by subcategories? Like do you mean something different from the current 3 subforums you can have?

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Can we rearrange or sort the redeemed wigs in the hair salon? I have to scroll down through so many to get to my most recent, and there are lots I just wouldn&;t want to use as much that I&;d like to hide from the list entirely.

I actually plan on bringing redeemed wigs to the top of the page, newest first! <3 I'm just working on sorting out my dev atm so I can test it.

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Quote by Grishiu
I think my top priority of what I&;d like to see is getting holiday shops a buying revamp. I&;m holding off buying any holiday stuff just there&;s a feature to buy en-mass c:
This is something we're looking into! Right now, we're most likely going to solve this by creating a cart feature, similar to what exists for the Cash Shop.

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Any news on the necro thing? Bug said this on 04/11/19 in this topic - Let&;s Talk Forums Again Page 3</p>
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We didn&;t want to say anything about it yet, but we&;ve actually had something in the works for a couple weeks now to address the necro thing. πŸ˜€
We'll be sure to communicate visibly when we have news on this :)

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I run a couple forum groups and use them a lot, so I&;d like to see them get a little TLC.
Any particular kind of TLC you would love to see?

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Fixing the Veta Lake Resort GA boon to actually be useable. (&amp; maybe also apply to the Rathskeller Inn)
This has been on our to-do list :)

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Quote by Kanna
-Subscribing to a forum like you can to a specific thread. (ex: If I subscribe to the Avatar Contests &amp; Games forum I&;ll get an alert whenever a new thread is created.)

Unfortunately, this isn't feasible in the current system, and has a potential to overload our alerts system as well :(

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yes, different categories per category if that makes sense?
like entertainment has literature, music, internet, etc</p>
<p>besides this having extra categories (five maybe?) would be nice too :&gt;

I'll see if it would be possible to increase the number of categories for now! Sadly I don't think subforums for these forums is feasible at the moment.


To both of you - I know I just turned down these suggestions due to limitations on our current forums system. However I wanted to mention that and I have been talking about moving our forums to a more modern, flexible and scalable solution. Even though I had to turn these down now, I'm still glad you suggested them and they'll be taken into account as we decide how to proceed with forum revamps in the future. <3

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this is probably far too big to do much with, but I made a thread about rebalancing/raising the money you get from playing games to make them worth playing, and everyone who posted on it seemed in favor.</p>
<p>Even if it&;s still a lot less than questing, it&;d be nice to have a reason other than achievements to play the games.</p>
<p>Since I&;ve seen that it may be impossible to change the actual flash games themselves, maybe a static multiplier added to the payout afterwards?

and are going to look at rebalancing the amount of sP from games <3

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Tweaking game payout &amp; the game system so the games are a little more interesting and a little less frustrating and restrictive, esp for users who can&;t play games like Burrero Basket Bonanza due to motion sickness, eye strain or just limited mobility. Global cap for sP earned from all flash-type games pls.

We're actually planning major updates (and even rewrites) to several of our games as soon as we've got some resources freed up. (Especially the ones that broke because of browsers killing Flash.) We're excited for these rewrites because it's an opportunity to really pay attention to accessibility and making the games work on mobile.

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Teeny tiny QoL update nr. 5 (I&;m going to stop after this, I promise):
when autotraining, you are not told what stat your pet is training. I am a spacy spagoot and I forget.
Currently:
Cayde-6 has 18 classes left! The autotraining session will be finished around 3:07 PM tomorrow.
Would be nice if it was:
Cayde-6 has 18 classes left in speed! The autotraining session will be finished around 3:07 PM tomorrow.

Okay haha that seems easy enough to tweak. Added to my list!

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A QoL update I&;d love is a pantry for Fantine&;s Bakery.</p>
<p>At the moment, I&;m stockpiling ingredients in my vault, sorted into their own category. But having to search through and pull out the right items for the recipe has long put me off using it. I just keep hoarding ingredients in the hope that it&;ll be possible to access them directly from the baking page one day.

Hmm...... ;) ;) ;)

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<p>Hi. Could the remove button be back when we do quests account search? The one we could remove the item w/o going through a whole bunch of steps? Thanks :)

It will come back in a couple weeks :)

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do you play Pokemon Go?
Nope, sorry :(

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I'm going to be answering a lot of these questions tomorrow, but just wanted to quickly on phone:

  • the question regarding artist applications, that's for to address not us!
  • more achievements will come yes
  • is SO ready to make wig its own layer, it's just something we're waiting on from Keith so she can go to town. her plan is to reorganize a lot of layers but MOSTLY WIG
  • questions regarding wardrobe we're going to get keith to come answer, or i'll text him to answer them and i'll copy and paste here WHATEVER WE GOTTA DO
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Thanks for your patience, everyone, as we organize and try to answer these! We have literally been using a spreadsheet to keep track of the questions here lol. As mentioned, a lot of these questions don't have a simple response we can just give right away, and some require more discussion amongst multiple staff members. But we promise we haven't abandoned this topic!

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I&;d love to see a button to complete all the pets&; training sessions. I mean, I understand training should take an effort, but leave that to putting the pets in another session of training, so we can have a button at the top of the page to finish all the active sessions, loading another page that says the name of each pet and how many status they improved

This is something that would warrant more user discussion to see if enough people would want it, to make it worth implementing for everyone. I'm also not sure how much it would even help, because while it would make completing the sessions better, it would still be tedious to have to put the pets back into training one by one.

I would suggest weighing in on this topic: Make training easier for people with lots of pets

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Also, I sadly missed the Morostide 2018 plot but would like to read up on what happened. Is there a place on Subeta to read up on past plots?

I can't find the staff post right now, but it's been confirmed that we will be adding this information to the Subetapedia. There's no immediate plans but this is on our list!

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Make foods eaten and books read removeable please! I want to customize this part of my pets! Just deleting them would be great, even if it cost sP to do it, though preferably for free

We've been discussing how to incorporate this as, potentially, a part of the Bathhouse Cleansing Pools - since we sort of established that as a part of the site for removing things, and we do have some more "rooms" for that planned already. (Side note, if anyone has suggestions on a cool way to make it fit into the lore, we'll hear them :D )

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Quote by iara
My question to you, guys.. Are you really removing widgets with the layout update? Please, reconsider. Widgets make playing so much better. The Oracle widget makes it impossible to pose her important quests, and the notepad I L&;s great to use score and make a daily list. Widgets should not go

We understand the concerns over this and we're well aware of the important role widgets play, in the current layout, in allowing you to customize your site experience. We understand how important that is to Subeta users and we have kept this in mind as we design the new layout.

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Whatever happened to hiring a new artist? Applications closed Sept 16, the thread was finally locked three months later on Dec 10 when Rah said she &quot;finally had time to go through these&quot; applications and that emails were being sent out, and then... silence for another five months? I think? Did I miss an announcement about the new hire or did that whole thing fall through?

I spoke with about this, and we are unable to discuss our hiring process! (Sorry, I know you're all curious, but there are some Legitimate Reasons we can't share many details about this)

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What is Bug&;s favorite fungus?

I... I don't like most fungus :x

I guess mushrooms count though? So it would probably be that, but... honestly I'm not the biggest fan of mushrooms either lol. I can eat them but it's not my favorite food in the world.

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I do have a request for the Fantine&;s Bakery: When you select your recipe you sometimes need to gather some items to make things. If you gather them in another tab you need to go back to the main recipe page and then back to the one you want to make. If you click on &;Make Item&; Button it claims you lack the right ingredients for it even if they are in your inventory. I don&;t know if anything can be done for it but it might be worth looking into.

How about if you could click Fantine to reload the page? Or if there was a link to reload the page (or both..?)

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Also could we have the &;play with pet&; menu similar to the &;feed pet&;, where it only shows the available pets?

Can do.. will work on this :)

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would love to be able to &quot;search &quot; for example for &quot;book&quot; in my vault and find all the books or foods or candy or toy or clothes or whatever i am searching for, instead of only the books with the word book in it ............

I am exploring a way to do this! Around the time of the Item Directory revamp, we made some major updates to how items work behind-the-scenes, to make this more efficient. I am still not sure if it will be possible, but we are gonna try :)

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Sorry I haven’t replied, it’s been a very long crazy weekend. and I have a spreadsheet going where we’re recording all the questions so things WILL get answered, don’t worry!

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tweaking game payout and accessibility

and I have plans to work on updating the game payout for a lot of games. :)

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GELLY WAR

Oh, my lovely bonita. I can’t spoil things too much, but I am actively team lETS DO GELLYs if that helps

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Honestly, the QOL update I want to see is mostly concerning the Subetapedia. This thing could be awesome, but it&;s updated so scarcely. I really hope something is done about it

I know I sound like a broken record, but and I do have a lot of plans for the subetapedia. My goal this summer is to start fleshing out our plans for like recapping old events, fixing up old NPCs, etc. I’d like to work with Rah on updating the holiday articles, and adding ones missing etc.

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I have a request that the games that do not come back if the achievements associated with them could be retired, like 3-card Montre? I was told that one is very similar to another game and will probably not ever be brought back so if that was the case would love if that achievement could be retired?

Yes! I actually plan on going through all achievements this weekend and retire ones that need to be, make note of achievements we can theoretically bring back (battle!!), what needs to be updated, etc. :) This will be a big part of my sprint for the weekend, ha.

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Any chance yall will do another one of those events where a bunch of the quest givers hand out retired items again? Those are so much fun!

Yes! I know a lot of people pointed out Vesnali items didn’t go out during the holiday, and that was actually planned. :) I’m almost done tagging old holiday restockables, so yeah I have something up my sleeves for all that.

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And finally there was a board topic brought up about Major Drills and Slots. As a quality-of-life update I would love to see this requirement changed(lol). Maybe just make it a certain number of spins(25 or 50 maybe) on the slot machine. One quest for Drills should not take 15 minutes but sometimes it takes that long just to get what is required. I Know it can be skipped but I hate skipping them.

okay first, I love that you asked/suggested so many things.

Second, we have no plans to change Major Drills at the moment. We firmly believe that some things should be a little harder to do!

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Oh, and maybe a list of all forum titles and clues on how to get them? In a way, it&;s like achievement hunting and since we have an achievement page that shows us what we need in order to unlock those, why not a matching Title list?

This is a thing I’ve been toying with doing. There’s a great user run thread that tells people how to get all the titles etc that’s updated frequently. The reason we haven’t done one officially yet is because like some of those titles are ones we want you to figure out on your own. Sure, some are easy like feed your pets x, but an example of like the rift achievements you had to work it out yourself. Doing a list with all of them just seems like handing you how to do it without much effort on your part, I guess? idk. SOMETHING I’M STILL DEBATING MYSELF ON.

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MORE ACHIEVEMENTS - since like 3-4 years ago there was a slow down with releasing new achievements and if there are new ones they are usually the same type &quot;feed x food, put x clothes in the wardrobe, read x books etc.&quot; it&;s a bit boring I would say, there are so many possibilities for new achievements, not new tier! new achievements! the site is so big, why to stop??

hello, yes I will give you more pokemon go gifts.

Also, we do those easy achievements because it’s something anyone on staff can add without having to go into the code of the site. is very pro add achievements to new features (hi rift) so look for more things like that coming up! I’m going to work with the BAs to get some more battle related achievements, too.

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Another QoL would be a set alarm for the bathhouse. Can’t be that hard to do.

I’ve said this a lot, but we’re not going to add an alarm for the bathhouse. This is something that’s your responsibility, you’re the one being rewarded with CSC, referral points, etc. If you forget, it’s on you.

MORE ANSWERS TO COME!!!

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Quote by Evy
adding a question about some much needed attention to the games high scores. Any plans on ever updating those? The note regarding the old high score system has been there for years. Many years.

Okay so... I've gone ahead and added this to my giant to-do list lol <3

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- I made a topic about this, but I would love to be able to add all items from a holiday shop year to my WL at once. Sort of like the buy all button that other people were suggesting, but for your wishlist. I keep track of what I’ve bought from a holiday shop by using my wishlist, so having an option to just place everything from a certain year on my WL would be really great.

and I agree this is an interesting idea! We're willing to explore if doing this is possible. It would be a neat new feature!

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Maybe I&;m oblivious and it&;s already somewhere, but how about putting the rules link somewhere more obvious, instead of it being this tiny little thing at the bottom of the page?

We appreciate this feedback and will take it into consideration - especially as we design future layout updates :)

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Make the inventory and quick stock pages match up!

Gahhh I wish this were simple and easy to do. All I'll say now is, we basically do agree, it would be nice for them to match up. It's just going to take some work due to how it's currently set up, it's a bit... complicated.

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this site calls subeta pets&;, so for me i like to do something with my pet... i would like to put some wearable things on it, or a background...

I'm afraid it's a hard no on this. It would just require way too many resources - We have so many pets, in so many different poses, we wouldn't be able to make clothing for all of them.

However, you can make custom overlays for your pets if you want them to have clothing or backgrounds :)

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aaand for the last; it would be sooo great if we get the button back in wishlist, if we check for a friend the button say; i have it in my invi, meantime i must use the search function to see if i have it or not...

Unfortunately, this has been turned down already and we don't foresee our position on this changing.

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Is there any chance you could take minions out of the &quot;collection&quot; portion when restocking? Since the minion zoo will take however many minions you have (instead of the other collections where it is actually one (1) item per collection) it can be frustrating if you have a lot of items in your inventory and you want to do a quick stock to &quot;Wardrobe&quot; or &quot;Collection&quot;?

This seems to come up a lot, so I'm looking into making this a User Preference, where you can opt out of this (completely optionally) That way users who like it this way can still use it, but you can also opt out if you don't like it.

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(forum group admin) -More of a bug, but - when making a new thread clicking the &quot;official post&quot; box doesn&;t actually give you the purple heading. (My &quot;fix&quot; - Make the thread then copy/paste to a new post and delete the original.)

Hm, yeah I would consider that a glitch, since the form says one thing but doesn't do it correctly. Would you mind posting about this in the bug report forums please and I'll get to it as soon as I can <3

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Quote by Marlboro
another forum suggestion, so right now I wanted to quote only what Amber replied to me, but I had to quote all the post and remove the rest of the answers, can we have a button that let us quote a part of the post?
Maybe I&;m doing it wrong so if yes please tell me. I&;m not so good with coding haha

You know... now that I think about it, I think this can be done. I could make it so if you highlight a part and click quote, it'll only quote the part you highlighted. But only caveat is, this might not work on every browser, and probably won't work on mobile since highlighting is weird there

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Bug, more than customizing my experience, I just don&;t find the site to even be reasonably navigable without widgets. They surface a ton of information you have to know exactly where to find and allow me to get from point A to B without a dozen map clicks in between. They let me track items and threads that would otherwise just be buried in a ton of things I find nonrelevant. Without them, I need either a text file of links or to bookmark all the things.

That's a good insight - thank you! While our decision is set in stone, we do take the concerns very seriously and we will make sure they're taken into account.

I think it has to be clarified that we're not deleting widgets from the current site layout. If we just deleted widgets without changing anything else, that would of course be terrible for usability.

The new layout is our chance to address the current layout's shortcomings and see if we can remove the need for a clunky and outdated widget system altogether - while providing other benefits like a more accessible and intuitive navigation, a site that works and displays well on mobile phones and tablets and touchscreens, loads faster (less resources per page) etc.

I can't answer any more on this topic, but if there are more thoughts posted about this, we'll be sure to read and take note of them as we move forward. <3

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Great idea - I'll bring that up with ! We typically do have a phase with big things like this where we do beta testing and feedback with users, or at least a Q&A or brainstorming type of thing if we can't test it yet. I think the new layout just isn't quite ready for this at the moment.

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I had a pet rejected for spotlight and got the nice event notification that spelled out the reasons (love this!...not sure when it was implemented, but it’s so helpful). Only problem is that i accidentally deleted the event and I won’t have the time to dedicate to that pet for at least another month, so I’ll for sure have forgotten what I was supposed to fix by then. Any chance we could have it also show up somewhere that’s saved for us to reference back to?

This is a really good idea, so I will see what I can do! However, I'm afraid that if this is implemented, it won't be possible to make it retroactive, and the logs would need to be automatically cleared after a certain time (like 3 months maybe?)

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A nice feature to have is a Trade History page so that I can see what trade I offered or my past trades that I accepted as it gives me a place to track what I gave out or accepted. Sometimes I forget whether I offered on someone else&;s trade or not!

This is also a great idea so I'll add this to my list! Like the pet spotlight denial log, a trade log would also not be retroactive. It would also be necessarily limited (older trade logs will automatically get cleared after a certain time) However I think it would still be pretty useful for the reasons you've stated.

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So, the forum signature input area has a character limit. It doesn&;t say this, nor does it say what the limit is. On top of that, I find whatever limit it is to be too small. My signature looks quite small in my opinion, but I can&;t add much more links or even decorations because the URLs put me over.

That's fair! I'll see about adding a character count to that page. I'm also working on adding it to the text boxes for posting a forum reply and new topic <3

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In that same train of thought, I don&;t know why there&;s a character limit in the first place, when there&;s already a limit that tells you what the combined height of your forum image + signature is allowed, which looks at the text which is created, and not the coding used to make it. My signature of links isn&;t tall enough to go over the height limit, but the character limit is what stops me.

The character limit is a physical limit - it's how much physical space (like in bytes) that it's allowed to take up. This is a property of the database thing we store it in. You can't store more data because it can only hold so much data.

Increasing this storage space does come with associated costs, I guess the most obvious of which is that we'd require more database storage space which we gotta pay for. So I guess what I'm saying is, we can change it, it's just not something we can change arbitrarily since it does have costs that factor into it.

But!! we hear you about it being too small right now. So I'll speak with on whether or not we can edit this to allow for bigger signatures! I think there's a good chance we can.

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May 30, 2019 6 years ago Official
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Quote by elka
hey cutie, user and i were discussing in the SB and we both noticed this afternoon that the drag-n-drop versus click-to-move choice keeps reverting back for some reason (i believe i might have noticed it going that after a mass add, not 100% sure) -- anyhoo pinging you here but lmk if you would like that i make a post about it officially? thanks n_n

Whoops, that shouldn't happen. Working on a fix!

This was an unintended side effect of a new user preference that will be announced this weekend :)

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