reads I’m on board with everything so far as long as the releaser is the one with the ability to control the information being spread. While the honor system is nice and I don’t think anyone ever reports an item being private maliciously.... good intentions do usually come in like a wrecking ball.

i correct. admins can edit but not delete in groups. but threads can be locked and only admins can edit them as far as i recall.

well i dont think it would be malicious but even like a simple like accidental deletion or a little kid playing with a laptop could screw things up xD

@ Snow pouts true :*

light bulb over head flickers life Got an idea! What about this working alongside the NEWCW thread that holly runs? That way it only needs to be needs to be updated every few days, and whoever runs this doesn’t have to drown themselves in information.

Plus @ tartelette idea of having a form, releasers can use to copy and paste can definitely help take a load off of the work involved. And spirited doesn’t need to go door to door. We just get the word out that this is happening, like a promotional note on Holly’s new CW thread to contact spirited to report privates.

Then active releaser can fill out the forms and send them, and spirited just needs to copy and paste.

Spirited, just using your name in case you choose to be the one running this. You could always recruit a trustworthy team.

pinging you since this may be of interest.

theres google forms. just submit the item name, number released, number of public copies if any, releaser name.

@ Seven nods if that’s the easiest way for the person in charge, I totally support it. Efficient!

Hi. I might want to play Devil's Advocate a bit but I'm a consumer, through and through.

One important aspect that I didn't see mentioned was former privates from people that aren't around anymore. For all intents and purposes, this is why staff should actually have some rules in regards to this that coincides with divvying out the former users pet names or avatar name.

The other thing I've seen that's been more common than not is that releasers have been pretty good about leaving a list of items that are public or private. Some have a significant set of privates and they may not be willing to feel the need to post it in yet another forum.
Not to say that I agree with any of that, but since they've already made their own list of what's what, then I can see why there would be those that just aren't interested in the idea of this -

People in general, just don't read. No matter what thread or in public or whatever.... There's a fuckton of people that don't see a specific sentence that states "don't ask for this". Pretty simple, right? But it's still asked for, and in the CC category you have people asking for slots when it's "pinged only" and not paying attention to just a few words... let alone, the actual ping group that was, well pinged.

So, as much as there are many things that I don't agree w/ the private section... I have to admit that the majority have put in a lot of time to list - in one way or another - what's public or private and those few (not rare) times when it's not known, there's several users that will make sure that you know that it's private ---- although how many or IF there are any public copies are newer and not so well known.

All in all... OF COURSE it would've been better if staff had been keeping track all along, since they openly opted out of it; But now it's just too big to try and go back and find every and all that have listed as private and you will most definitely encounter those who don't care to mention it for whatever reason, but are allowed to remain anonymous due to those staff lack of restrictions/rules.

@ Taarna

Private’s from inactive users is a challenge because you can’t ask the releaser directly. I wouldn’t want potentially false claims to be upheld as fact on this listing. Perhaps to meet on the middle ground, there can be an asterisk on items that many claim to be private? That way, it is up to the people involved in a transaction to decide whether or not to perform a trade/sell.

nods I have come across a listing or two. For those who don’t want to re-do a huge listing, perhaps they can volunteer a link to said list? Spirited wouldn’t need to recreate the list, just copy and past the link to where the list of private’s for that releaser can be found.

Lmao! Dude, I totes agree. Heck, I’ve been quite guilty of it myself when I first joined the CW community. But that’s a fact of life. I mean people don’t read but stop signs still exist? Car accidents still happen but they don’t always happen. I think even though it won’t change EVERYTHING, this improvement can do some good.

You’re totally right in regards of this being a huge project, especially if attempting to track private releases from years ago from now inactive users. So I’d suggest starting off small and just get the ball rolling with the current active releasers.

Possibly insert a disclaimer somewhere stating the time frame from when the report is starting and any “possible” private’s before this time cannot be guaranteed. Therefore certain CWs can have an asterisk.

But start off small with the support of the current major releasers in the market, perhaps.

New releaser here. I just have 3 privates so far, but have detailed info on all my releases and I can help if you need. :3

while releasers are no longer active if a current owner is a releaser i would trust their judgement or we could have a category of ' older privates of uncertain origin ' so no names get mentioned ( in case frozen ) and it leaves it open as we personally don't know ourselves. its a safety net with a HUGE DISCLAIMER.

as well as high demand items we haven't touched -- a lot are from inactive / iced users now too.

I disagree with the part of

CWs of older origin, I agree with. I wouldn’t call them private’s of older origin unless it’s 100% certainly private.

Definitely agree with needing a disclaimer when it comes to those CWs.

i like the idea behind this, though yeah, would definitely need a note that it cannot be an all-inclusive list due to just the sheer amount of items onsite and that every releaser will not necessarily be on to post their items.

that said, what about older releasers whose shop threads list their privates? that information is still coming directly from the releaser.

yeah that we can definitely hunt down and record. not all of them will have it but we can hope haha