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Nov 14, 2017 8 years ago
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Psycho and shriek should be confirmed but I only remember hearing from someone that strong stomp was similar to shriek in freeze rate. I have one strong stomp I can test with but if you want to send more I can test with them later on tonight.

If you’re looking for chain freezing, I would argue it’s better than psycho smasher for equivalent freeze rate at a lower AP cost. Shrieks are more reliable for freezing, but do no damage. Either way I’m putting it in my default freezing set and will get another with my second pet for sure.

Nov 14, 2017 8 years ago
Laurey
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Yeah, I'll definitely be using mine from now on. And for people with multiple battle pets, it's definitely nice to be able to get multiples of Cold Blast. The bit of attack is nice too. At least we've got one scroll that's worth the effort. :P

Nov 14, 2017 8 years ago
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sounds like purge just told us the freeze rate outright at 85%.

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Nov 14, 2017 8 years ago
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Np!

Ah ok, good to know strong stomp is confirmed. I only did 100 battles with it so far but it sounds like the actual freeze rate is either 70% or 75%. It may be worth seeing if the same pet can win the fragments again at 150 wins. Then we can confirm if special items can be won at intervals instead of once per pet.

Nov 14, 2017 8 years ago
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It would be worth doing more testing to narrow down the freeze rate. I just thought 75% would make sense if that's what the freeze rate for Psycho Smasher is, since we got an alternative to the Shrieks with Strong Stomp at 85%.

I can do some more testing with it when I'm fighting the little ones for those scroll pieces.

Nov 14, 2017 8 years ago
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Nov 14, 2017 8 years ago
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I just did some more battles with the Cold Blast scroll.

I did a combined total of 145 battles, and the scroll froze for 97 of those = 67%

I did 108 battles against Buttwings (easy challenger) with freezing 71 times = 66%

I did 37 battles against Felibot (very hard challenger) with freezing 26 times = 70%

Not as much data for Felibot, but I'm wondering if the freeze rate depends on the difficulty of the challenger you're facing? Maybe not, but it would be interesting.

Which challenger(s) were you battling earlier with the Cold Blast scroll for your 100 wins?

Nov 15, 2017 8 years ago
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Verdugo

Damn that sucks. Thanks for taking the time to check

I was battling all the easy/medium opponents in the secret tab

Nov 15, 2017 8 years ago
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Hmm, so probably not based on challenger difficulty then. Maybe I was just unlucky.

Nov 15, 2017 8 years ago
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Verdugo

It at least looks like the average is closer to 70% instead of 75%

Nov 15, 2017 8 years ago Official
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Man. I wish I could have things scale based on the opponents difficulty. I'm stuck with stats :(

Nov 15, 2017 8 years ago
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Maybe it’s tier or stat based as so kindly eluded to. What tier is your pet now and what are your stats? I will do 100 battles with Oranos and see if my rate changes

Nov 15, 2017 8 years ago
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oh jeez. everything seemed so neat and tidy and poof, it's all off the table ;o; /cuts out the difficulty references

it looks like the scroll notes i had that referenced challenger difficulty levels are all off (should be emerging rift scroll, leftover junk, burnt and soggy muffins). it might be best to just leave those out of the subetalodge descriptions for now, sorry ;o;

e/ reminded me that burnt and soggy muffins scales with opponent's stats, so that one's alright! aewfew i'm all over the place with this, sorry!! >m<;

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Nov 15, 2017 8 years ago
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My pet is Tier 12. I don't remember exactly what my stats were yesterday when I tried, but they haven't changed a whole lot since then so I'll just post what they are now:

Level: 1208 Health: 4000 Strength: 3410 Defense: 3007 Speed: 3010

I know they also said that 6/8 of the scrolls have custom coding so that they adjust depending on different factors. I'm not sure exactly which 6 they are though, so IDK if the freezing scroll is one of them or not. It's worth testing a bit to see though.

[edit]But I thought the testing with the other scrolls was done by people using them with the same pet, so what was causing the variation with those? I'm confused now.

Nov 15, 2017 8 years ago
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I have no idea D: I will test anyway since Oranos is T10 and has less than 3k per stat. It could scale by tier or scale by one stat being above a certain amount like the unstable fairy scroll.

Nov 15, 2017 8 years ago
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Okay. Yeah, all of my stats were above 3k when I did my battles yesterday, so I guess we'll see what happens with your testing.

Nov 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Didn't we put down that, at least for the Burnt and Soggy Muffin scroll, that it scaled with opponent's stats and capped at 14 of each icon? xD


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Nov 16, 2017 8 years ago
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............ look who isn't paying attention to the difference between opponent's stats vs opponent's difficulty! it's me! lmao lemme get that one back in/correct that one, thank you for helping me not be dumb haha

[edit] and if purge can't pull shenanigans with difficulty categories, and burnt and soggy muffins scales with opponents stats, then emerging rift is probably another that scales with opponent stats. dunno what that means for the leftover junk scroll's steal/freeze... if i have time this weekend to mess around with it, i'll see if someone will lend one, i guess o:

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Nov 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Ooohh okay I think I get it now, opponent's stats would make sense at least (instead of difficulty level). Maybe that's the case for the freezing scroll as well, although I can't say for sure right now.

Nov 16, 2017 8 years ago
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Looking for some advice on which of these scrolls to target.

Right now, I've collected the Eclipse, PSR, Willowisp, Manticat, Erdoo, Canaak, Daemon, and Mama Mush scroll pieces. So, I can officially make the Cold Blast and Lights of Sprites Scrolls.

The only opponent that I haven't been able to beat at all is Saggi. And don't think I could get to the required wins for Gate Keeper or Hustler.

But just in general, is there a consensus yet on the new scrolls and what might be the best/most desirable?

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