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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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- But, we would be getting those things if the event wasn't running. I do agree that tiers may not be the best solution, but there should be some sort of incentive to do more than 1 (other than trying to complete the task so everyone benefits).

I honestly participate because I want to. I don't need more pet slots (I have many unused), and bathhouse tokens are probably the worst prize. That being said, I understand somebody who does 15 quests per quest giver x 9 (or however many) quest givers x 5-6 days complain that the person who does 1 is getting the same prize. I'm all for making prizes accessible and easy for everybody, but it's still a game, and there should be some sort of competition. If you can't participate in an event then why would you get the prize?

Like in the real world it's nice if everybody is taken care of, but this is a game. I'm a capitalist.

My opinion would be completely different if these events did require hours upon hours (like Neopets Altador Cup the rewards people being online 24/7). That being said, we're talking about doing one quest during an event and doing more. The "top tier" or better prizes shouldn't be impossible, but if you can't logon and spend more than the 20 seconds it takes to complete one quest then why do you deserve to be rewarded?

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago Official
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Some random thoughts would be like: 5 free chance machine things in the CS (kinda like the spooky one while ToTing?), or maybe a combination of currencies (like 5 Subq invitations, 5 bathhouse tokens, 1 crypt point, a 500k credit to the antique shop, etc etc).

Some of those are actually on my list for future things. I've posted in various places that we have in the past switched up the prizes (the pet slot is pretty much always a given, we are a pet site after all and a lot of people like the slot because they don't have to spend CSC/sP on one then haha). We did bathhouse this time because I knew I'd be adding more items in there so it was the best option. We also included a forum title because some people love collecting those and don't care about other things. But the next quest-a-thon (which we have planned sometime this summer ;)) will have something else instead of forum title / bathhouse points (tbh we might do another forum title i was v close to doing sir quest-a-lot for this one hahahahah)

Just going to reiterate this from another thread/news comment: We’re not going to do tiers for quest-a-thons. That’s not in the spirit of the event. You’re supposed to be working together so everyone gets a prize, not just reward yourself. Making people do 50, 100, etc quests is honestly going to turn people off from wanting to help out tbh especially if they don't think the sP from quests + prizes are worth it.

another reiteration: we're not going to do CSC/cash shop items/etc for prizes because that would flood the system. We already give away quite a bit of free CSC through the bathhouse. We also won't do a loyalty box because of all the things included in there (especially because we're going to be adding something cool around our anniversary to them :X). I posted somewhere that we keep it an all or nothing prize thing because it's easier on everyone (artists don't have to do new art usually, us programmers just have to run a script to get prizes out at the end, users don't have to rush to choose their prize before we close a page or whatever, etc), so it's always going to be a "You get x, y, z if the goal is met" and not "you choose between x, y, and z as a prize if goal is met" type thing.

Just keep in mind that no quest-a-thon is the same! We've changed the goals before, the amount of time you have, and the prizes. Just because you have a week to get 750k done this time, doesn't mean it'll be hte same next time. During Luminaire for our last quest-a-thon we had the bonus weekend thing on the entire time in the spirit of Luminaire. That doesn't mean we won't utilize the feature again in the next quest-a-thon (we had it planned for the last day this time to do it).

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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(tbh we might do another forum title i was v close to doing sir quest-a-lot for this one hahahahah)
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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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I'm just wondering: There were times when the staff gave out 250-500 CSC for the whole userbase as an apology for glitches. Was the price of CSC drastically affected by this? If not, then we may not have to fear that handing out CS items would wreck the economy. Take the miracle potions for example. If my memory's correct, there no official shop search price for either miracle potion. If they were given out to the userbase, some people might sell them, but many others would hold on to their potions until a certain pet species/color combination came out that they liked. The current price of the potions might drop only a few million since most users would either use or hold on to the items.

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Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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We've done that before for glitches, yes, but sometimes it's just a page you go to and we'd have a week you could check or we'd give it to just anyone that was online in that specific time frame. Having the site glitch out vs doing quests are a completely different thing, too.

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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I can't speak for anyone else, but holy smokes, you have me really hyped up and curious for the rest of the year on Subeta now!

Also, yaaaaas! Super glad that loyalty boxes won't be a prize for quest-a-thons. I understand why people would reallyreally want them, but... no. No, please. :'D That'd be an easy (basically free) 9 months of GA right there for anyone who's been on the site for 2+ years and participates in successful quest-a-thons. And it'd be a steady, easy supply of everything else that's in constant demand from the cash shop (pet renames, account renames, miracle potion).

Jun 18, 2017 8 years ago
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I actually like the low participation threshold for these, and I say that as someone who goes all-out with GAs and Sarah every time. My beef is just with the prize always being a pet slot.

I don't need pet slots. At all. It's just not a part of the site I really understand or participate in. And while I'm willing to pitch in just to get the slot for people who actually care about these things, it would be so, so nice to be able to pick whether I get another pet slot that's going to go unused or like...five-ten referral points (I don't know how much they usually sell for to say how many would be roughly equivalent to the slot), which I would actually use.

idk. I get that Subeta is technically a pet site, but there are so many different playstyles that having some different prizes might help entice more people into participating.

Jun 19, 2017 8 years ago
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My beef is just with the prize always being a pet slot.

Honestly, I'm saying this as the person who actually came up with the idea of the Quest-o-Thon - diverse prizes would be fine.

Right now, it's a little too routine. When the Quest-o-Thon started, pet slots were much, much harder to get. The GA slots still existed, we didn't have MC slots...

Now, I don't feel like there is a need to have ALL Quest-o-Thon give a pet slot. Other things would be nice. Like boons.

Jun 19, 2017 8 years ago
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Sweet, glad to hear that some other things are being considered for the Quest-a-thons! Obv I care about the pet slot, but it's cool you guys are interested in making it appeal to the other users too (because y'know they haven't seen that light yet and whatnot).

Another interesting idea would be like, special Quest-a-thon quests? Like a special x amount a day (5 a day for everyone, non-ga or ga, idk) quest that's only active during quest-a-thons? It could be like existing NPCs that wanna "get in on the fun", and could change daily or just a new one each quest-a-thon?

Like the top two examples of how cool this would be (ie: the first thing that came to mind): Recycle Beast & The Mage!

Like the RB quests could ask for whatever items and instead of sP/item prizes you could get recycle points? Like ask for 5 items and get 50 points, or he could even ask for 10 items and you could get like 100 points (random numbers, obv you guys would have a better idea of a good ratio).

The Mage could ask for books/elixirs/magic things/stuff relevant to his interests and in turn you could always get a mage amulet, shard, or tome (like 50% shard, 45% amulet, 5% tome)? If it's 50 you'd get a shard I don't think that'd be horribly damaging, especially if it was only 5 quests a day and limited to quest-a-thons, but again I'm sure you guys would know better.

I'm sure cool stuff could be done with like Esmerelda, The Oracle (no profit, just stat boosts to active pet?) (ALL LEVEL ALL THE TIME RIGHT), Gunter, idk. It could be cool okay.

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Jun 19, 2017 8 years ago
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Elsy

Seem like an interesting idea to me. And..PHEW! We finally hit the goal! That was too close for comfort if you ask me. YOU inspired the quest-a-thon???? Holy smokes, I am standing in front of a legend!!! :O

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Jun 19, 2017 8 years ago
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Speaking as someone who has not used any of the free slots from previous events, I really don't mind the pet slot as a prize. I fully participated in each event, max quests possible, even Sarah. Because I had the time/ability, because I knew a lot of people where thrilled with the prize, etc.

I don't feel like I lost out or that people who didn't quest as much as I did "took advantage" - it was just fun to play along.

That said, I would be happy with a different prize next time, but don't feel its necessary.

As for making the minimum higher - well you can argue to make it the equivalent of 1/per day. You could argue for 10 as well, one complete set for one quester over the entire event isn't a lot to ask. But why? I mean a person can do 100 or 150 every day and get the same prize as someone who does 1 right now - so you up it to 5 or 10, its still pretty piddly compared to the time and effort a completer puts in. I really don't see the point of making the minimum higher, unless you're going to make it really high, and that would really turn off a lot of people. So, no, 1 is just fine as it is.

Jun 19, 2017 8 years ago
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I think my biggest suggestion would maybe be something other than a pet slot for a prize next time. I feel like the extra slots I have just go to waste because I likely won't ever fill them (keeping track of my 21 pets is enough haha!)

Also, I don't know how feasible 's idea of throwing in new NPC quests just for the quest-a-thon is, but it sounds cool.

Jun 19, 2017 8 years ago
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I also have no use/want for slots.

I also understand the tier thing, I just think that it would be nice to have SOMETHING to drive us to do more quests. We do do that with the retired items/weekend quest thing, but even other boons like having your quests reset.

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Jun 19, 2017 8 years ago
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I could get behind having a different main big prize or having the choice of the different main big prize OR a pet slot. Because I'm always a slut for pet slots but at the same time I know there are a lot of people who don't use them

Jun 19, 2017 8 years ago
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If pet slots were removed I would stop participating but a choice between a few things would be awesome.

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Jun 19, 2017 8 years ago
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Not gonna lie, I just did my quests on the last day because of the weekend quest bonuses. Just as people say that if they get rid of the pet slot they'll stop participating, I honestly couldn't find any motivation to participate this time. I would love to see some prize variation.

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Ok got some suggestions. Given the fact that the Quest-a-thon is a community challenge, why not make the reward something "general" or "global". Of course this will affect the ones that don't quest at all, but being 1 quest the participation minimum, I don't see much difference. Some suggestions for succesfully reaching the goal:

Increased random events for a week Increased chances to get through the Crypts/Polar Ice Fields for a week Cheaper prices in the NPC shops Increased BHH for a week Weekend quests all week (and to not make it an overkill, make a quest or two the wq for a day, the swap the following day, and so) An extra throwback challenger for the month etc

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Jun 19, 2017 8 years ago
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I have a feeling that if the minimum was upped, you'd get less users participating (unless for the whole time every quest was WSQ with retired items chances). And what would stop the next time asking for it to be upped again because, "no fair to have to carry those only doing five because I did all mine"?

I also kind of wonder if we'd get enough excitement over anything else as a prize?

Honestly, I didn't even care this time. I really don't need a pet slot (I don't really like having as many pets that I do have). Nor do I care for forum titles or bath house tokens. The only reason I "participated" is because I do all my quests everyday anyway.


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Jun 20, 2017 8 years ago
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I also kind of wonder if we&;d get enough excitement over anything else as a prize?

I'm a pet person and I can't even get excited over pet slots anymore because I felt 72 was a fine number. 73 is yet-another-prime-number. I'm a little salt right now.

I was more excited for the bathhouse tokens because I wanted something in the bathhouse, but I can't manage high streaks on the bathhouse. because I don't come daily. So, I lose 5-6 days streaks pretty easily.

After seeing two Vibrant pets in the news today, I really feel that a new repose potion would be an exciting prize. Something that's mythical, magical, and would still get the point that "hey we're a petsite" and after looking at recent suggestions, I feel that an Aurora Potion would be the best choice.

So yeah. I'd like to see that as a potential prize for a Quest-a-Thon,

Jun 20, 2017 8 years ago
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The doing one quest to count is a bit silly but I'd rather not have to sit here for five hours and do +50 quests or whatever to count towards it or it be tiered. It's supposed to be a group effort, I'd like the prizes to remain rewarded the way they have been by means of not have to worry about competing with someone else.

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Jun 20, 2017 8 years ago
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I&;m a pet person and I can&;t even get excited over pet slots anymore because I felt 72 was a fine number. 73 is yet-another-prime-number. I&;m a little salt right now.
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After seeing two Vibrant pets in the news today, I really feel that a new repose potion would be an exciting prize.

Hi, I'm a pet person too. 79 petslots, going to be 80 in September and 81 if we win the next quest-a-thon. I am definitely okay with having the chance to get more pet slots for grinding out quests, even if I don't fill the slots immediately. :X

A new pet colour potion would also be nice, but we're already dragging behind on some of the old ones we have and harvest barely scratched the surface so idk how likely or possible that is given the size of the art team and everything they have going on.

tl;dr - I agree that options for quest-a-thon rewards would be very nice to give everyone a reason to pitch in, but it feels like it'd be very hard to balance and fit the varying tastes of the community without kicking the site in the ass one way or another.

Edited for fixin' numbers.

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