a remove from vault option on shop search
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I think a better idea than having shop search also searching your vault for every single item you look up, would be for account search to have a move to inventory button for any copy of an item in a removable place.
This would work great too, especially if the quests had buttons for both shop search and account search, like RBeast and WL have ^^
At the very least it would be nice if the account search link would take you directly to the specific item in vault/shop, instead of having to search for the item again in there (I think there's been at least one suggestion for this in the past).
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Again, yes to Mike's idea. Really anything that helps us remove items from where ever they're squirreled away would help. My stuff is so fractured now with so many shop limits and always getting cloudfare errors when I open shops/vault that being able to remove stuff directly with the click of a button would be so helpful!
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This would be good, especially if you could have any of your own shop items show up, even if they aren't priced--they're yours, after all, so it's not like someone else can see or buy them, even if they show up for you.
If there was an option to search both shops and your account (in one or separately through two different links), this would still be helpful. Maybe shop items with a 0 price could appear in the account search option?
Easy moving of items is a must!
I don't really have things in my vault that I'd want to use for quests, but getting to search for items which are priced 0 in a shop or an item that just got dropped in your inventory would be really useful. It doesn't take long for quest rewards to start dropping (30 sec. for the first drop, I think) when you have to search to hand something in, so easier access to an account search (and move to inventory for use) would be good.
This was actually an idea I discussed with the other programmers when I first joined the team :) I think it's a great idea, but the one concern we all have is the strain it would put on the servers. We definitely don't want to query the vault every time you use shop search (or start a quest). It's a real concern, too, because shop-search and quests are pages that get a lot of traffic so if we make them do more stuff, those requests to the server will add up fast!
How would you guys feel though if there was a "Vault Search" button next to the "Shop Search" button when you start a quest? It would just take you straight to the vault search results for that item when you click it (just as if you manually searched for it in your vault yourself). You could then remove the item from there using the buttons in the vault. I was thinking this might be a viable compromise, because it won't query the vault unless you click the button, and it's more efficient than account-search since it only queries your vault (and not your entire account). So it's a way to give a bit of convenience to you guys, and allow a quick way of checking if you have something in your vault, without putting too much strain on the servers. And people who don't care to look in their vault won't click the button, so there won't be any unnecessary database queries being done.
If you think that would be a decent compromise, I'll talk it over more with the other staff (they're all asleep right now... it's also Saturday lol) and let you know what we decide. I don't think adding a "Vault Search" button would be a huge deal, as it's essentially just a link to the vault.
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I love the idea of a vault search button in quests nods :D
(and I know what you mean on pings, hence why I didn't ping you ;) Make sure you take some time out between all these coding jobs though, otherwise you'll be a frazzled bug!)
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Oh yes, vault search would be nice too, as long as it leads directly to a page where we can remove the searched item. However, I'd still prefer Mike's idea of account search that would allow removing the item directly to inventory wherever it may be.
(Of course, in time I'll learn to throw everything in vault if we'll get a convenient way to pull items out from there. Now it's just a huge black hole where things go never to be seen again.)
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Maybe account search over vault? To cover random instances where people's hoards are elsewhere? And then implement the 'remove' option in account search or at least the direct link, as suggested.
Just seems more universal and a little less confusing to newer players. Also covers legacy shops (which shop search no longer does).
Would also be nice for things like high-level IH, where you'd be (potentially) more willing to pull from places like TC/Wardrobe/etc,
I like Tribunal's idea better than just a vault search, as long as the account search button would also register shop items which haven't been priced yet, since that's my huge trip-up with getting items I have duplicates for to hand in for quests.
And yes, speaking as a new player, direct links and/or remove buttons would make things A LOT less confusing!
I'd love to have a remove button right there on the account search. I hate going into my vault because the darn thing loads so slowly if I haven't gone through and sorted the random items on the default page. Sometimes that's even with five or so items! Anything to make it easier to use my own junk please!
I also would hope it'd be for unpriced items in your shops as well. I've had a few times that I cleared out my inventory only to end up needing one of the items before I price it. Instead of the hassle of removing it it's faster if I'd just buy it from someone else.
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It does! That and legacy shops are why I practically forgot the 'pull from your shop' feature existed. None of my stuff is priced, and I still have a legacy shop dumped with near everything on my account trying to get last minute achievement tiers (sorrynotsorry).
Pllleeaasseeee yes, account search move to inventory would be a huge step above shop search move to inventory. Save me from the vault which takes ten years to load lol.
Your compromise would certainly be helpful, and appreciated, but there's still a major problem that it doesn't address. Opening the vault (and I know its not an issue for everyone) often causes 502/504 errors. If there was some way of pulling that stuff out without actually opening the vault (like the shop search does for priced shop items), that would be the optimum solution.
The issue on your side is that you don't want to run additional queries that most people won't find all that helpful. So is there some way for us to manually run queries that will allow us to retrieve items without having to open vault/shop/gallery? I'm not very familiar with programing so I really don't know what's possible and what's not.
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One thing we are working on right now is moving more and more things to the Subeta API. That's the stuff you see sometimes that starts with "sapi" instead of the normal site domain. When we do database things through sapi, it's wayyy faster than how most things are currently being done. So we are hoping to address the vault lag issue by eventually moving some of the item stuff to sapi, because then it should load lightning fast.
I actually spent the past few days writing some sapi stuff to handle pets, since the pets.php page is one that can be ridiculously slow to load. To give you an idea of how significantly it helps: After rewriting it to use sapi, we found this page loads under a second even when you have 70 pets and no cache. I'm working hard to get these changes ready to be rolled out asap, and after that, I'll be turning my attention to getting sapi to handle some item-related things too like the vault. It's our hope that as we move more things to the API, the site will run smoother and faster so a lot of our current issues about resource management will be less of an issue.
For now I still have to request everyone's patience >< It's hard work, and every stage requires lots of review and testing to make sure we don't break things even more by putting them online. But in the end hopefully it will not just solve some problems on its own, but make it much easier for us to fix everything else :)
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I would absolutely die happy if the account search bit that said "you have x in your vault" with a link to your vault would just magically take you to your vault with that item queried out so I could just remove it. Or if I could remove it from the account search, that'd be amazing too.
I play mobile more than I do on a PC so 900% of the time if I have one in my vault but it's affordable in the shop search (affordable depending on if I want it for a TC or a quest, those are far different numbers) I'll just buy another one because all that copying item name/remembering it to re-type is just way too much work to bother |D.
also, while (kinda) unrelated to this topic:
Can I just say, bless you. Just, bless you.
Unless I need to name swap/reorder/create something I just use the personal/pets/find pet in sea of names tactic because ain't nobody got time for that pet page to load. Even with showing only 10 a page it's like five years later.