The site isn't unplayable without the ability to complete your plushie collection either. Maybe less enjoyable, but that can be said for someone who really wants to collect more forum titles too.

As in if there are plushies or beanbags unattainable, then the entire collection cannot be completed.

But there's no place for a display of all forumtitles you have, or even quantity, so I don't think not having a specific title is that crazy?

it really comes down to what a user wants to collect though. it may not be a big deal for you if you missed out on a title, but if someone else really wanted to collect a certain one or all of them or what not, it would be upsetting. again, just being devil's advocate to bring some color into this topic since it was getting one-sided.

I know, all I'm saying is there's precedent to bring back things that were retired in some form to make the site more enjoyable and everyone can collect what they want. I don't know why forum titles should be different than items. rereleasing forum titles wouldn't impact anyone, but unretiring items causes deflation. imo this is less harmful than bringing back items.

I don't think making items obtainable for everyone = more enjoyable site for everyone. I think it's important to have a balance of obtainable items/things, and some items/perks which are exclusive.

There has to be a line somewhere, where some things are not brought back.

I think if Subeta is just a free-thing-melee, it's very easy to lose interest. It is nice to have things that are long term goals / not necessarily obtainable by all.

If we're the logic that 'some users might want it' to re-release things willy nilly, then we may as well re-release achievements, trophies, godlies, etc.

why is that line forum titles? I understand achievements - the events are never going to come back. Achievement prizes get brought back, and forum titles are just another achievement prize. I'm not saying these should be handed out for free or cheap, but we're always searching for a good sP sink. make them 100 mil a pop, more for the rarer ones. that provides incentive to people to collect them when they aren't retired. it doesn't make sense for the line to be drawn at forum titles.

Forum titles are like trophies - they mark your participation/involvement in something, so obtaining them through another means is kind of odd. I don't think we would suggest being able to purchase a trophy from an old event for your profile, so it doesn't feel like it makes sense to do that with retired forum titles either.

I do like the idea of new forum titles being released/purchased through any number of currencies (why not a title per currency!).

As for custom ones, isn't that kind of what the pet leash option is? It's a spot on your post sidebar with customized text. I like the actual forum title area to stay with official ones only, personally. I'm sure staff appreciate suggestions for new titles, so if there is one someone particularly wants, it could be suggested!

This. Though are you being serious with a forum title currency?? I think maybe purchasable titles would be a fun thing for the forum shop? (shock, something forum related for the forum shop!)

I think currently all but maybe 2 forum titles are awarded via achievement, so I think making it buyable is on par with making an achievement buyable - it devalues a user's participation for a prior event.

There are some achievements/trophies/forum titles I have that I am proud of having earnt, and I worked hard for them knowing there was a deadline of availability. There are some I have missed out on, and sure I'd love to have them, but I think it's respectful for other users that have accomplished those achievements etc. that they aren't handed out again.

If achievements were un-retired and being handed out freely, I think I would lose interest in earning them because I can always try for them at a later date / when they are next available.

I think it is important for site longevity / interest of players to be kept in mind, besides just sP sinks.

Making them buyable isn't at all making an achievement buyable. Achievements won't ever be brought back, and that's great. Titles aren't kept track of and they aren't a competitive collection. If they got rereleased, some people would be upset because they tried hard and earned them, but that's no different than the zombie skins being made accessible to everyone. The price being made high enough would encourage participation and still give them some value to earn. The thing you earn is the achievement though. That will always be exclusive from participating in an event.

If custom forum titles are ever created, this further blurs the line because you can (without other rules in place) make a forum title that is an older forum title. Without a way to distinguish custom titles and real titles, this pretty much does exactly what the suggestion wants.

+others are due to be brought back soon. Some of these items are actual prizes for participating in a competition and doing well in that competition. soon they will be available for a currency. I don't see the difference in bringing these items back and forum titles.

I agree with on this.

Forum titles are purely cosmetic. They're totally different from the achievements and trophies themselves. I don't see at all how they're the same thing.

If you make them available in the Forum Shop, it won't mess with the CSC gift card market and possibly encourage more users to participate in the forums more often. I see absolutely no reason to not do this, especially with shops like the Antique Shop now open to the public.

Making the titles available =/= making the achievements/trophies available.

God no, not a forum title currency, haha!

I meant like one available in the MC, one available through Recycle Beast, one through Frag Shop, one through Forum Shop, one through Carnival Prize shop, etc, etc, omg there are so many currencies.

[edit] Also, what is a trophy but purely cosmetic?

There is nothing on the site that you can't access without enough forum titles. The same can't be said for trophies.

I must admit, I'm stumped. What on the site can you not access if you don't have enough trophies?

The only thing I could think of was Blue Building, but there isn't a trophy requirement there.

Trophies are actual records of what you participated in and how well you did for the most part. Forum titles are vaguely related blurbs on the forum that correlate to plots because of the achievements.

[edit] let me phrase it better. by looking at a trophy, you can immediately tell what it's from. Forum titles aren't like that. some of them maybe, but others are so general that they could apply to people that didn't participate in a plot.