Yeah, there is a couple of these that I'm not sure would make sense.

An ally is a cis heterosexual who is supporting LGBTA+ people, to different degrees. Sadly, I'm not feeling safe with "allies", since a lot of people using this label are prompt to erase asexual people, or discriminate against trans people anyway. Or worse, appropriate things like gay marriage and using this as a way to say "WITHOUT ALLIES, YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN MARRIED"

I had bad experience with people being "allies", so I have a negative bias.

Nobody ever sticks me with anything, I think I'm safe. I'm bad at the being social thing.

- ah, gotcha...thanks for explaining =)

You have sent me my favorite sticker, seriously, we cannot be frenemies, . You have too much flair and style for me to hate you, sorry!

As far as wearables go, actual flags would seem kinda tacky, but a line of striped shirts modeled after the various pride flag gradients would be something I could see getting a lot of use. Or maybe striped backgrounds?

I'll show you my bias if you show me yours :P. I've dealt with awful people saying awful things because I show support for equality and decency. I don't want to overshadow anyone, but I'm proud of who I am and what I believe in, else I might change my mind.

Hahah grumble grumble time to find another frenemy. And I thought I was onto a winner, boo!

(Thanks for the sticker love back <3 )

OH COME ON. I'm going to end with the biggest pile of da best sticker and I'm so okay with this.

I'm heteroromantic. I'm a girl who like boys, and if people like to do the do with the opposite gender, way to go! But, I'm just very sex-repulsed, and my boyfriend is okay with that! For the longest time, I identified as heterosexual, until I realized that yeah, sex was not for me. I knew it, I knew it since I was like, 16 or 17, but I was in denial, telling myself that someday, it would happen.

I'm going to have cats and video games consoles instead of children, and to my boyfriend and me, this is the best thing ever!

But, some friends of mine who say they're "open-minded", they're all "Uh, don't you make your boyfriend unhappy, he has urges, you know" and we're...my boyfriend and I are not okay with this. We have other ways of being together : they're called snuggling in blankets and playing Mario Kart 8.

Or worse. I got told that if I didn't feel sexual desires towards my boyfriend, it meant he was not the one. EXCUSE YOU. HE IS THE ONE. When someone's biggest flaw is that they're chewing with their mouth open, you know you got a keeper.

We have urges, they just can be satisfying by THROWING BLUE SHELLS AT OUR ENEMIES. Mario Kart is pretty much game of thrones before game of thrones.

id love some ace things but id also love some aromantic things too tbh, id love to see more representation of romantic orientations in general, because it is possible to have differing romantic orientations with their sexualities either way id personally just love a lot more ace/aro things to put everywhere lmao

Don't think anything else needs to be said

I think it'd be pretty cool to have pride flags on-site. Stickers, wearables, whatever. It'd be nice :) I've always liked the road sign items (I have a couple real road signs as wall decoration IRL, maybe I should print out Subeta's gay road sign and hang it with them haha!)

Honestly, I wouldn't mind there also being some kind of ally item. Not a pride flag, I don't think that really makes sense, but I don't see anything wrong with there being some other type of item. I do want to point out that I've known several people who called themselves allies because they are LGBTA but they were not ready or able to come out at that point, and being an 'ally' allowed them to still have some involvement with the community. So, that's just something to consider.

I mean, generally I've always understood the term ally to imply that someone's actually involved with activism in some capacity (because most people I know used it that way, and non-activist people who were accepting of LGBTA people just said that, they didn't call themselves allies. That's my experience with the term.) Obviously, that's not always how people use it, and I totally get the wariness and frustration with shitty "allies" who aren't as accepting/inclusive as they claim to be. That's completely understandable. (To be fair, even within the LGBTA community there is sometimes biphobia, transphobia, complete erasure of aro/ace people, etc.)

I didn't really mean to type that much . . . Basically all I'm saying is I don't mind if someone wants to make an ally item. Give me more things to collect and hoard in my vault, bring it on! :)

Hmmm. My personal opinion is a no to the stickers, just because there will eventually be someone out there who will be a dick about it, since you can stick it to other peoples profiles.

As for other suggestions for representation, since they are basically variations of color gradients, why not full rainbowed backgrounds? Striped t-shirts/dresses? Something simple that if you want to show it, you can, and if you don't, then you don't.

As far as allies, I can see both sides of the arguments, but ultimately there isn't any representation needed. As an alternative suggestion, why not a basic "I support you!" shirt. Bisexual? I support you. Trying to save the rainforests? I support you. Training to run a 5k? I support you. Dying your hair green and getting a tattoo? I support you. Moving to a new country to try and better your life? I support you. Just something generic and positive that can apply to all kinds of situations.

Don't think anything else needs to be said

i get your point, but personally i don't feel like it would necessarily be a political statement. i don't think it would be like subeta trying to shove other people's sexualities / genders down our throats, it'd just be a confirmation that 'hey, this site is for everyone'. and that would be cool c:

I should've quoted the rest of his post. But he was saying that maybe stickers wouldn't be the best idea because you can blast someone with things they may not necessarily agree with it of spite (and there's no way to remove stickers).

While I personally have no issue with it, I think people that do not agree with it deserve some consideration as well. (Trying to be fair from all angles)

So maybe wearable flags instead of stickers would be a better option

sorry, i didn't read all the posts - the quote just popped out. but yeah, i can definitely see that point of view. as much as i like the stickers idea, wearables would probably be better.

I wouldn't object to something. I agree stickers can get us into some sticky situations, though. Maybe readable pamphlets (wait that seems less pride and more informative) ? Plushies maybe ?

I'm not saying no to something ally (not "pride" though), but if someone takes that much pride in being a decent human being that they feel the need to override and demand attention over the actual people who need the recognition, they aren't a very good ally. There is a difference between standing with and standing in front of us. Can't really speak for us while silencing us.

People disguising themselves as an ally are still not allies, they are simply protecting themselves. They are still ace, gay, bi, etc, even if they can't say it in real life yet. I don't think they would be in too much danger collecting a pride item on a website like Subeta and hiding it away.

I don't mind having pride items. But pride comes from within, stickers were meant to be a community thing, you stick them to someone else. I don't want someone else sticking me with a pride sticker for some sexuality I am not. I am not proud to be anything honestly. I never see calls for race stickers or religion stickers. I'm all for people feeling comfortable to be themselves but I think there's an emphasis on how we're different that drives a wedge in people.

yeah sorry, i didn't read that part of the conversation - i agree though. it could potentially cause discomfort if people stuck other people with these stickers without them wanting said stickers. tbh i'd be all for those kinds of items cx i'm asexual myself and whilst i enjoy meeting other ace people, it's not keeping me from interacting with people who are not, at all.

Yeah I understand why you want them. It's odd for a straight white male to want pride items for them, I would think that would come across bigoted? Idk, pride isn't something I have about much. I'm not saying other people shouldn't have it for things they like about themselves though. I agree with , books or plushies could be a good route. I'm not sure what the best route is though.

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it wouldn't be so odd if it was a collectible item, which i think might make it less "weird" to want the item? but yes, plushies or books sound great!

The pamphlets idea from sounds nice in my opinion. (even though you say that it's maybe not pride enough but more informative)

From the 27 listed in the link in the first post i know only 6. But if I don't know all of the 21 others, there will be someone on the internet yelling at me for not being considerate and not knowing them all. There are so many, it's so confusing and I feel like people rather yell than inform. So maybe it's nice to have pamphlets with little info blurbs and they can be read to your pets, put into tc's and send to people.

That way you don't have the uncomfortableness of being stuck with stickers if you have other opinions or feel differently.