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Feb 22, 2016 10 years ago
Kevin
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Really anything but stickers I'd be fine with, stickers just have the potential to be used as I stated and I don't think pride things should come from other people. I would support books, always love more books

Feb 22, 2016 10 years ago
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What about larger versions of the with the different flags on them? The buttons could easily be 2 or 3 times the size of the pin so the flag is visible, but it would still be small enough that it could fit into a normal HA. I'm not part of the LGBTQA+ community (sorry if I missed a letter-- I try to stay informed but the acronym keeps changing to include everyone!), but I see a lot of these buttons IRL on backpacks or jackets. It could be a way to show support that could be easily incorporated into many HAs, so the buttons could be worn more often. I agree with 's concerns about stickers, so I think the wardrobe would be a great outlet for more pride items.

I don't really think there needs to be an explicit "ally" item. I like the idea of a "support" item. Maybe just a plain white button with the word "support" on it? (Or "I support you" if the buttons are big enough)

[edit] I love the idea of pamphlets. They're books but also informative. Win-win in my book!

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Feb 22, 2016 10 years ago
Muerte
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Feb 22, 2016 10 years ago
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I get what you're saying, I know people are very much still LGBTA even when they're not out and they call themselves an ally. I wasn't trying to say that it's dangerous for someone to collect a virtual item, just that sometimes people want to show support without outing themselves, for whatever reason. That being said, I really like 's suggestion of a general "I support you!" item. I think that's a better way to go about it, and nonspecific items would be more useful since there's all kinds of things people want to show support for.

Also I think plushies are a nice idea. The thank you bears and congratulations plushies are holding little flags, I can totally see some similar items with pride flags instead!

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Feb 22, 2016 10 years ago
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Out of the 26 flags showed in the OP, I know like 19 of them? amazing

But anyway. I would be against stickers unless you can unstack them. I can see abuse coming out of this, which is going to end up as a fuck fest in the bad way. I wouldn't be against plushies, pins, pamphlets or else. Not sure about the use of an "ally" item tho? : / The LGBTA+ does not stand for ally my friend, hell no.

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Feb 22, 2016 10 years ago
Amae
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I had no idea lipstick lesbian had a different flag.

I agree with the no to stickers thing, though I love the flat look of stickers and wish they didn't have the potential for drama </3. I actually kind of love the pin idea because on a pamphlet I worry the flag would be too small or overshadowed by any print on it to indicate it's a pamphlet. On a pin, the item image is a big circle that would have a very clear pattern to it. Perfect for tcs.

Feb 22, 2016 10 years ago
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Oh, yes, please! Though I'm not expecting something as specific as panromantic asexual but a wearable asexual flag or the like would be nice. c:

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Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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I'd definitely like flag-patterned shirts and/or pins for our HAs to wear -- I can't go to real-world Pride events for health reasons, but I'd like to be able to celebrate here, lol.

Plushies in the style of the "Congratulations!" ones are also a good idea, but admittedly I'm a wardrobe loser so being able to dress up is my priority :P

Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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I'm so happy that this idea has gone down so well! I was worried it might idea cause drama.

So after reading everyone's posts I agree with the stickers being a bad thing. Personally I don't use stickers but really love the colours and shininess and liked the idea that I could put them in tc and make them stand out. However I didn't consider that people would want to wear them (and that some would abuse it) and I really love the idea of the badges or coloured shirts.

The pamphlets are such a cool idea too!

And the ally thing, I agree with the "I support you" shirt or something. It's a cute idea that involves everyone without belittling or taking away the importance of pride.

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Feb 23, 2016 10 years ago
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I don't really get how stickers can be used as abuse to be honest. Would someone really get hurt if someone stuck a Gay Sticker to them or w/e? If yes, people are petty. If yes still, I'm happy that Subeta has shown to be an inclusive community that doesn't pay much attention to this negativity; lest we forget both the Pride Love Sticker and Lovey Pride Sticker exist. I mean... as a gay man I'm kinda offended that someone would be offended by a gay sticker heh. It just seems ridiculous.

Pamphlets are a cool idea, though. I probs wouldn't wear sexuality wearables or pin badges or whatever but maybe it'd depend on the execution; the statement tees were a cool idea that could be expanded upon.

Jul 1, 2016 9 years ago
Muerte
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You know what would be awesome too? Some puns. Pan. Literally a pan in the pan flag colors. Aces. The four aces in the four ace colors. A rainbow bow with a raindrop on it. Pride. A pride of lions. help I suck

Jul 1, 2016 9 years ago
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Liron

now I really want puns about sexuality to be a thing on here. please.

Jul 1, 2016 9 years ago
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I'd love stickers, but I can see how they'd be a problem.

Wearable flags would be cool though! I'd love an ace flag hanging around behind my HA. c: Little handheld flags would be neat too. Big handheld flags. Pride flag draped around the HA's shoulders?

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Jul 8, 2016 9 years ago
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i would love a book or wearble of some sort more than a sticker honestly, but anything to represent more sexual identites is hella cool with me!

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Jul 26, 2016 9 years ago
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I don't really think this is necessary. If you want to show pride in your sexuality, you can place an image on your profile or forum signature. There are no rules against doing that.

I like that, in Subeta, there are NPCs with diverse genders and sexualities but they aren't treated as being some big deal. I like that we can just casually have plushies and other items showing gay relationships, for instance, and have it be just as "normal" as a straight relationship. In the "real world", it makes sense to have special pride items because these groups of people have been oppressed. But in the Subeta universe, it's clear that there is no oppression or discrimination based on gender/sexuality. So there's not really a need for a pride item unless cis people get one too, since they are really equal in this imagined universe.

With that said, if this were to be implemented anyway...

I don't support the idea of stickers, for the reasons mentioned above:

  1. It can be easily abused since you don't really have control over which stickers get stuck to you. So other people could stick a pride sticker to you that is not your sexuality, and so on.
  2. Stickers are a collection item, so some people will want to collect them all, which defeats the purpose of having them be for a certain group of people to show pride.

I like the idea of wearable items. I think a flag in the background or a badge that can be pinned to the shirt could be great. People who don't like them don't have to use them. For people who want a subtler way of showing pride, we could have bracelets or necklaces with the flag colors on them.

I think a compromise would be to have a forum title that shows pride in general. Maybe "is proud of who they are" or "is not ashamed". Maybe a forum title that just says "Love is love" would be nice too. These could be made available by default, perhaps. If the point is to show pride in one's sexuality, this could be a way to do it that doesn't change the entire look of your HA.

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Jul 26, 2016 9 years ago
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I'm also concerned about this being a sticker since you can't remove stickers.

mostly I'm really concerned about friends (or not friends) (accidentally) outing other people.

You do know that people who aren't Subeta users can see your user profiles and the forums right? Actually, if any of these suggested ideas come out, I'd really like for Subeta to also force their forums to be private/hidden away from google/requiring a logged in user with forum priveleges, like how the forumgroup forums aren't accessible to just anyone. I've always found it weird that (from what I remember) the first few days after creating an account, you can't use the forums at all, but if you just log out you can read all of the forums.

Jul 26, 2016 9 years ago
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Quote by Chen
mostly I&;m really concerned about friends (or not friends) (accidentally) outing other people.
While I do see how stickers could be used as harassment, I don't see how they could potentially out someone. I mean, they're a collection item, all you'd have to say is "Someone stuck it to me towards the collection, I have to get them all if I want to finish it."

Though I already weighed in, I am in support of some form of item. While I'd prefer a collection item personally I do agree that it makes less sense, and I still would not use a wearable. We have the "Likes Girls" and "Likes Boys" t shirts already and I don't use those either (but also the bisexual colors don't match all that well for an avatar)

Side note, the link in the OP has the exact same colors and order for Asexual and Demiromantic and I'm not sure if that's intentional or what but they're exactly the same button.

Jul 26, 2016 9 years ago
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Personally, I feel iffy about joining sites when I can't see the forums. They could be dead, or very slow, or full of trolls and complaints about bad leadership. The forum gives a very good indication of the health of a site, which I want to know before I join.

But anyway, this is kinda off topic, sorry.

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