SPEAK FRIEND AND ENTER

let us carry on our discussion from yesterday, or just gush about hobbity things. also here is a link to an incomplete/in-progress overview of my modern AU, for anyone interested in knowing more! feel free to ask me any questions you may have, or offer any suggestions -- I'm glad to have finally found people interested in talking about it with me! ;u;

also PLEASE ping anyone you think would be interested in joining the group!

I don't know what to gush about or whine about first. let's start with desolation of smaug. while the kill scene,etc, was all pretty intense, it ended wayyy to quickly imo. I was hoping for a bit more action/struggle, idk. thoughts?

Omg who did your art? THAT IS AMAZING!!

• fili should have had more of a role in the movies other than screaming thorins or kilis name; he was the heir TO THE KINGDOM HE SHOULD BE FEATURED LOTS
• can we talk about how unnecessary it was to show thorin and his dragon gold fever a billion times? like him drowning or whatever in that gold floor took up time that could have easily been used for actual plot somewhere else; like yeah we get it he's not himself, he loves dat gold, etcetc.
• BEORN SHOULD HAVE BEEN FEATURED MORE I FEEL LIKE i mean in the battle he was shown for like two seconds dropping from the sky as a bear. he was way more important than that in the book ALSO I'M SAD THEY DIDN'T USE THE BOOK VERSION OF MEETING HIM, WITH GANDALF HAVING THEM ALL COME UP IN PAIRS AND STUFF. ugh

so many feels

: did the art and I made the forum image uwu

: are you talking about Smaug's death scene?

: more Fíli yes good, and poor Beorn was so glossed over that I wanted to scream (though the Extended of DoS did have them coming out to meet him in pairs, it was glorious uwu) however, I really enjoyed the way Thorin's gold sickness was executed, omg it was so involved and I loved it.

yes, I am.

: I felt like it was anticlimactic and short, would've liked to see more.

: omg I completely agree, I felt cheated by the exchange between Smaug and Bilbo, it was not what I pictured when I read the book. NOT AT ALL. Smaug was so lovely and well-done in the beginning but everything disintegrated the further the movie progressed ._. tbh I love the movies, but they started out great and ended up...not good. I have such love for the characters and felt the movies ended up doing a disservice to them. (particularly dear Fíli and my namesake, omg poor tauriel.)

Basically is my go-to hobbit/LOTR buddy.

A lot of what she said I totally agree with.

This is how I feel. Like the pale orc situation? was a thing but he died AGES BEFORE THE HOBBIT. LIKE. WHY MAKE HIM SUCH A THING IN THE MOVIES WE ALREADY HAVE A BIG BAD AND IT'S A DRAGON COME ON. I liked the idea of tauriel but they didn't do much with her? She started off strong and then .... lol. Just so many things were good in theory but didn't work out well. Or it was just batshit and relied on CGI. God the 'LETS MELT THE DRAGON WITH GOLD' and he literally shakes it off like it aint no thang like alfskdjlaksjflkjf.

: omg I know right? like I understand that not adding Legolas would fuck with the timeline PJ has created but his role was WAY TOO BIG, especially with the slaying of Bolg WHICH I WANTED FILI AND KILI TO DO

and Tauriel is my queen and I love her relationship with Kíli but I didn't want that to be the definition of her character, and it was and I am so mad about it ;n; I hope Evangeline is too because she did such a great job with what she was given and she wanted Tauriel to be so much more than just a love interest, like you said.

There were so many fallacies and I have so much anger and so much love. The first movie was GREAT. hell, even the second movie was pretty good. But the third...it started out with such promise. :c BUT I STILL HAVE FEELINGS, those characters made me feel things and I am trash.

: omg I just

I wanted so much better for Fíli and Kíli, they got THE SHAFT in the last movie. all the action that should have belonged to them defending their fallen uncle was given to an elf who had no dog in that fight (except 'omg he made me bleed my own blood', which is a shit reason in my book)

and Tauriel, oh god, don't even get me started on her, poor thing started out lonely and ended up committing assisted suicide

thanks PJ for giving me characters to love and destroying their story.

Yeah, I think one of the favorite things about the books is how Fili and Kili died. They died trying to save their uncle. It was very honorable, and dwarves are all about that (like look at how important braids and beards are to them). Instead Fili gets killed without getting any sort of fight in (he was the heir he should have gotten SO MUCH MORE BACKGROUND AND JUSTL AKJSDFLKAJDSLKFJ) and then Kili died trying to go help Tauriel and just. SKLFDJSLDKFJ.

Pie and I were talking the other day about how the differences between book thorin and movie thorin throw us off. like he's so sassy in the books and great and in the movie it's all brood. Like I said in SB, I think they casted really well for most of the people (go away bilbo/martin freeman). I think richard armitage did well with what he was given just ugh I WANTED SO MUCH MORE FOR HIM TOO.

: I KNOW RIGHT? I justified them dying as dying honourably, and that didn't happen, especially on Fíli's part. I was so ready to watch them go down fighting for their uncle, and I knew Tauriel would be involved in Kíli's death somehow...but I got completely screwed over.

also omg yes, I expected much more sass from Thorin. Richard was GREAT (I seriously have no complaints about casting AT ALL and I think Richard was the perfect Thorin), but the writing didn't do him justice at all. He was majestic, but he wasn't the Thorin I wanted to see.

I'm so glad I'm not the only person with these feelings ;u;

Yeah richard was great. He does great interviews for it and his behind the scenes stuff is hilarious. Really, all the dwarves were great. I just wish he had better writing because ugh he would have nailed it (FILI TOO HE COULD HAVE BEEN GREAT).

Am I ready to watch the movie? Am I?

who knows

only if you have tissues and are prepared to be emotional and angry at the same time ;u;

Shit. I bet all my favs get killed ;u;