nooo dude i would hate to see a complete re-work of those eyes, they are so great!! i mean yes the right (viewer's left) eye is a little too low but if it got nudged up a little that would be plenty i think. they're so unique and we have plenty of more "normal" eyes, you know? i think they are one of the sets that can do to keep the "personality" and quirkiness. i use them all the time under other eyes because while i don't always want those solid-black irises, the brows are killer. and sometimes i'll use them on their own because they're just so different and full of attitude. it's fine if most eyes are pleasant and versatile, but i think at least these ought to stay more or less as-is.

also yeah imo the biggest issue aside from crooked / misaligned eyes is eyes that skew too far towards the ear, often overlapping with the hairline of certain hairs, making them very difficult to use. yes the angle of the avatar is weird and not accurate but we ARE looking at it from a 3/4 view which means the eyes should be closer to the left side of the face. also because the face is a curved surface, features that are further away ARE going to be skewed in perspective and have a slightly different shape, and may even appear very (VERY) slightly higher than the near eye. not as extreme as some of the examples of misalignment you gave on the first page, of course. in my artistic opinion, the alignment grid of the face should look something like this:

unfortunately, the nose makes that perspective look weird, and most mouths are much further to the viewer's right than they should be, so the whole thing is very hard to make look like it's following any sort of true perspective.

OH MY GOD. Add [item2=Limited Edition Delish Raven Eyeshadow] to the list. I've had this item for years and have never actually worn it because its so screwed up. Dx

Glad this is still being looked at!

The base HA is chibi, and this cannot be changed. Given how weird it is a certain amount of licence is needed to look at the HA and not go wha??? for pretty much all features and not just eyes. Taking eyes literally here is an acquired taste maybe.

I can see how the fixes are pretty and more like realistic, but I like the eyes as they are. The two eyes that the OP hates the most are some of the ones I love the most. Not everything has to be exactly runway-model ridiculously high CW standards pretty. Sometimes they represent the HA head moving or showing more expression that it normally could.

I agree with "some" of them but I hope that cache and dee are left out! these:

Cache is pretty popular and I personally use Dee in layering a lot because I love the eyebrows on it. Heck I even sometimes use Malice, Intent, and even Drawn, for the eyebrows.

Thank goodness :D Thanks for replying!

screeching and cheering in happiness over this news

I'm so excited to see that these are going to be looked into ❤️

tbh I like the variety of eyes but I'm glad eyes are being worked on

looking forward to seeing new eyes :3 the face is one of my fav wardrobe layering bits

Oh, yay! I'm really looking forward to seeing some fixes for the crooked eyes <3

I can't believe this board is still alive, but I'm really glad it is! So good to hear that plans are being made for upgrades to the base eyes.

Can we talk about mouth position too? Some of the pouty ones (that I absolutely would LOVE to use all the time) are always crawling up my nose and so I don't use them. I think this mostly affects those of us who love using the nose I currently have and the base nose that is currently using. I think faces need quite a bit of work in general. It would be amazing if we could actually move stuff around but I'm sure that would require a lot of work, if it was even doable for the wardrobe (kinda like how we can move stuff on the Lumi trees).