eh bstaff already got shafted by making cronus for 5 wins against meatslab, I wouldn't really be against it but I'd be very confused why they released bstaff with Fishbreath. I don't believe bstaff came out from a battling event anyway.

Thank You for bringing me back my item! To thank you, here is a reward.

Reward :

15 Point Wizard Token AND Your pet Bean gains 7 HP! AND 1,693sP!

Sweet. Nice little pick me up.

making a better substitute and re-releasing have extremely different impacts though

what's a maelstrom worth anyway? seems like you own one of these because you're very defensive about it.

on the glory days of these things, one sold for 2 billion. 2-3 years ago ? And none since.

You could easily cut that in half now, and then some. But it doesn't matter because probably no one would sell anyway. It was before they started releasing substitutes and whatnot. Collector is a market, but it's not always about what it's worth.

And is there a reason these scrolls should be exempt from being rereleased even though they have stated that pretty much all other items on this site are getting rereleased at some time? There's the collector who may buy it if it's one of the last ones they need (how many scroll collectors are there and how many will pay that much for one? single digits probably), but no battler should buy it with the substitutes that exist. And honestly the collector shouldn't buy it if they know how this site works. Nothing stays unobtainable because they get enough complains and will eventually rerelease it somehow, I figure most things will come into the Antique shop in about 30 years when they decide on prices.

I'm the one that suggested they should be released as far as I know so I don't know what you're going on about

Yeah I thought you did, but then you seemed against releasing any number of them that seemed reasonable. How many skelly scrolls were released? There should probably be a similar number, those aren't easily found up for trade and I bet their value is still really good.

There's a difference between re-releasing something and completely destroying its worth

Should it be released again, it should stay the rarer substitute. 20-30 seems more than enough. As you've pointed out, these scrolls aren't needed. But refreshing the market doesn't hurt.

I'm not going to enter a debate on rare items vs practical items that leads nowhere

I don't think it would destroy its worth though, most that go out will never go up for sale most likely. since only 6 exist (if they all are still around) a lot of people would probably keep any they earned.

Congrats! And Thats an awesome exp bank! And because I'm terribly lazy when I'm battling so I didn't check - congratz to everyone else who got the Cap'n to 5 and above.

- all true - I hadn't thought about it that way but like you and Alex pointed out if something's retired that's achievement based, its not coming back around. But hey, it was fun to think about getting my hands on that scroll lol

not all retired achievement stuff doesn't come back around though, they just don't like to rerelease battle stuff for some reason.

Hmm, speaking of re-releasing stuff, I think we should toss in Shinwas Sacred Bow into the conversation..

You Won! You have defeated Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas 10 times! You earned 9686 sP for beating Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas! Vallenorix earned 10000 EXP Points!

One down.

Twenty to go

You Won! You have defeated Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas 5 times! Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas drops: Freyalise Ghost Freyalise Inkwell You earned 16403 sP for beating Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas! Thracian earned 5905 EXP Points!

Took a single loss cause of a terribly unlucky run, but he's not so tough. And I might have used a terrible set against him. Trident + Swash. Wind block overkill, but I'm lazy and they were modded with natural armor. The rest can wait till tomorrow though. Bloody tired of seeing that defensive hat move stalling out the battle.

You Won! You have defeated Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas 5 times! Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas drops: Freyalise Inkwell Freyalise Ghost You earned 16403 sP for beating Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas! Eleka earned 5905 EXP Points!

You Won! You have defeated Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas 5 times! You won a(n) Impossible token to use in the battle shop! Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas drops: Freyalise Inkwell Freyalise Ghost You earned 16403 sP for beating Captain Fishbreath Jacques, King of the Seas! Chitsuki earned 5905 EXP Points!

Good enough for now. If I get all my other wins in time, I'll come back to try for remaining five each. On to Rita.

BQs done. Re-fights taking a bit longer to finish but I have time for that. Hopefully, I can get all wins on the pirate challengers and the maliss bopper in time. I think I should make it, now time to rest and go at it again tomorrow.

You have defeated Rita 5 times!

Rita drops:

Tarnished Dubloons

Rita Plushie

You earned 6561 sP for beating Rita!

Fawkez earned 1771 EXP Points!

I just took some time to burn off battles 5-10 for a ton of challengers. Netted myself nearly 30k exp!